carol-anne Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Don't most people start "in moderation"? Moderation is nevr too far from the slippery slope. personally i think moderation is really far from the slippery slope, the amount of people i know that either drink or take drugs or do both and very few are now addicted. cigs being the exception.!! Link to comment
Guest LondonScottish Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 personally i think moderation is really far from the slippery slope, the amount of people i know that either drink or take drugs or do both and very few are now addicted. cigs being the exception.!! Every single addict started off in moderation. Link to comment
carol-anne Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Every single addict started off in moderation. Yes but not every moderate user will become addicted. are you saying nobody should ever take any drug? Link to comment
Guest LondonScottish Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Yes but not every moderate user will become addicted. are you saying nobody should ever take any drug? In an ideal World, yes. Link to comment
Lang Bar Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 You gave your view. You choose not to experiment. I can not share your position of purity, as I also exercise personal choice and have not always said no. If you really want to get personal, the more pertinent line was the one that the abstainers know not of what they speak. I've always been an abstainer from illegal drugs, and tobacco, but have never assumed a moral high ground. Anyone who has seen me after a Saturday night oot on the demon alcohol would soon shoot me off that high ground. RS you say in another post that you see " lives getting wrecked ". Those of us who have abstained may also see this effect of illegal drug dealing / misuse. It is therefore by definition quite logical that abstainers may know quite a lot about what they speak. Perhaps not through personal experience of using the drugs, but by close association to friends or family who have been " weak " for one reason or another. It can be, and indeed is, a very emotive subject for many in our society. I am pleased that so many on here have experimented, but have been " strong " enough not to become addicted. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Yes but not every moderate user will become addicted. are you saying nobody should ever take any drug? I've 'moderately' taken just about every drug known to man (some more than others) for about 20 years. Now I've given them all up except for cigarettes and alcohol.... Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I don't smoke, drink or do drugs, tbh. Having said that, I take no moral high ground. I'm pretty Libertarian in my views and only judge when said user infringes on another's personal freedoms. I just don't see the point. I think it masks deep-rooted issues in even moderate users, when they need to indulge in mind-altering substances in order to receive instant gratification. Each to their own, I guess. It's just not for me. Link to comment
Roo Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 used to smoke weed regularly up until about a year ago. didn't make a conscious decision to give up just never bought anymore. and then when i did try to get some a few months, i couldn't get hold of the person i used to source it from. probably for the best. as i say, been almost a year now without even sniffing any and it's not done me any harm i gave up smoking normal cigarettes as well (apart from the very occasional one when i'm drunk), and it was my absolute favourite thing in the whole world. it's a disgusting habit that i wouldn't recommend to anyone, and it's really bad for you, but still for me there wasn't much like it. although ironically, i probably miss the weed more due to the fact i know i could just go and buy a packet of fags any time i want to and while i enjoy a beer every now and again, if they banned alcohol tomorrow i doubt it would make much difference to my life. generally drink to be sociable, but i could probably live without it. never really tried anything else because i have a terribly addictive personality, and there's not much else i want to try anyway, apart from maybe acid Link to comment
DodgyKeeper Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Any of you stoners know how long it takes for weed to leave your sytem if you've got a drug test ? Link to comment
Guest LondonScottish Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Any of you stoners know how long it takes for weed to leave your sytem if you've got a drug test ? Depends how often you smoke. Give it at least 6 weeks to be on the safe side, and have a cropped haircut. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Depends how often you smoke. Give it at least 6 weeks to be on the safe side, and have a cropped haircut. Link to comment
Guest LondonScottish Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 A lot of the financial institutions do a hair test now as well as blood, so they can pin-point to within days of when you took what. Link to comment
DodgyKeeper Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Depends how often you smoke. Give it at least 6 weeks to be on the safe side, and have a cropped haircut. Cheers LS! Link to comment
fifered Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Here's the score: - Snorting speed or coke is a ridiculous abuse of the body. Should always remain illegal and people should be discouraged through education. Injecting anything even worse. Should always remain illegal and people should be discouraged through education. Popping pills, including E's is a ridiculous abuse of the body. Should always remain illegal and people should be discouraged through education. Hallucinogenics, including mushies, is a ridiculous abuse of the body and mind. Should always remain illegal and people should be discouraged through education. Smoking grass or dope is a ridiculous abuse of the mind. Should always remain illegal and people should be discouraged through education. Long term users get f**ked. Drinking alcohol is a ridiculous abuse of the body. Should be made illegal and people should be discouraged through education. Smoking cigarettes is a ridiculous abuse of the body. Should be made illegal and people should be discouraged through education. Drinking caffeine is is a ridiculous abuse of the body. Should be made illegal and people should be discouraged through education. If, as I do, agree with all the above except alcohol and coffee, how can I justify my inconsistent approach to these two? I can't, it's absurd of me to justify my position. So the balance of personal choice needs to kick in. You can't destroy natural substances including poppies, coca, marijuana, peyote, even magic mushrooms. Some people try some or most or all. Some people abstain from some, most or all. The weak get addicted to one or more. I believe in personal choice. As for "being cool", this argument is stuck at persons aged no more than 15, and is irrelevant to people capabale of free thought and free choice. The concept of peer pressure applies only to the weak. The ill-informed are generally the total abstainers. Naturally. they are ill-informed because they know not of what they speak. It's all pretty simple really. Anyone coming to the original greenhouse in the Dam for a weekend? Or to Pablow's?You spout a lot of nonsense as though you are the most informed expert on drug abuse in the whole world when you are blatantly not. From your posts you would appear to be saying that basically people should be free to try what they want and peer pressure does not exist. Total b**llocks. The vast majority of people who end up on particularly harmful drugs like smack end up on them becuase of deep rooted personal problems like sexual, phsyical or mental abuse or through some other traumatic event in their life, they end up using drugs as they see it as a way to forget what has happened to them. The vast majoirty or smack addicts will also tell you they would love to be drug free but simply don't have the will power or help from society to do it. As for saying that total abstainers are ill informed, b**lshit. I've never touched a drug in my life and believe me I will know vastly more about most drugs than you. Illegal drugs are illegal generally becuase of the harm they do to the body, or in the case of Cannabis in particular, to the mind. There are hundreds of different chemicals in Cannabis and experts don't know what the vast majority do so nobody can tell you it is 'safe' or a 'soft drug' becuase nobody knows. If people are stupid enough to want to use drugs that **** up their body fine, but that does not mean that society should condone it when it is blatantly very harmful. As for comparing drinking coffee to using other drugs, I've yet to read in the paper about some idiot robbing a granny to get enough money to but some Nescafe so wise up, that is a stupid arguement. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 You spout a lot of nonsense as though you are the most informed expert on drug abuse in the whole world when you are blatantly not. From your posts you would appear to be saying that basically people should be free to try what they want and peer pressure does not exist. Total b**llocks. The vast majority of people who end up on particularly harmful drugs like smack end up on them becuase of deep rooted personal problems like sexual, phsyical or mental abuse or through some other traumatic event in their life, they end up using drugs as they see it as a way to forget what has happened to them. The vast majoirty or smack addicts will also tell you they would love to be drug free but simply don't have the will power or help from society to do it. As for saying that total abstainers are ill informed, b**lshit. I've never touched a drug in my life and believe me I will know vastly more about most drugs than you. Illegal drugs are illegal generally becuase of the harm they do to the body, or in the case of Cannabis in particular, to the mind. There are hundreds of different chemicals in Cannabis and experts don't know what the vast majority do so nobody can tell you it is 'safe' or a 'soft drug' becuase nobody knows. If people are stupid enough to want to use drugs that **** up their body fine, but that does not mean that society should condone it when it is blatantly very harmful. As for comparing drinking coffee to using other drugs, I've yet to read in the paper about some idiot robbing a granny to get enough money to but some Nescafe so wise up, that is a stupid arguement. If this is true why are alcohol and tobacco not illegal? Link to comment
port86 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 The vast majority of people who end up on particularly harmful drugs like smack end up on them becuase of deep rooted personal problems like sexual, phsyical or mental abuse or through some other traumatic event in their life, they end up using drugs as they see it as a way to forget what has happened to them What utter trollop. Sounds like you're the one without a clue mate. Link to comment
Scarface Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Check out the big brain on Fife! You are from Fife. You therefore know f**k all, being from the most backward part of this country. Awa an build anither Glenrothes, ye Kirkcaddy heist.. f**king LOL Link to comment
Sheep#1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I shoot up everyday, well I do live in Glasgow. Link to comment
Core Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I shoot up everyday, well I do live in Glasgow.When in Rome and all that eh? Luckily I have more will power than you given that I live in Brighton....... Link to comment
Woolenrouge Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 f**king hell, only 2 out of 78 so far, including myself, favour rock resin hash? The good old Morroccan Rubber Black? I havent sniffed a joint in almost eight years due to being overseas but was a regular up till then and grass was almost unheard of. I can think of only one time between '88 and 2000 when grass was available. Whats that all about? And what the f**k is 'Chico'? I can't even google an answer on that, l never heard of it. Was that the 'joke' option? Link to comment
Sheep#1 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 And what the f**k is 'Chico'? I can't even google an answer on that, l never heard of it. Was that the 'joke' option? Link to comment
Woolenrouge Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Aha, the old Columbian marching powder. Link to comment
Henry Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19372456 Cannabis users risk lower IQ apparently. Were you a big smoker in your youth Bluto? Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19372456 Cannabis users risk lower IQ apparently. Were you a big smoker in your youth Bluto? youre a funny guy harcus. drugs are for mugs. Link to comment
daytripping Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I don't take illegal drugs these days as I'm too old and my work does random tests but in the past have tried everything on that list apart from Meth, never done me any harm! I particulary enjoyed E'S in the early days, they were excellent. Not a fan of acid, it's cheap for a reason, nasty drug. In an ideal World I would legalise the lot, people who want them can get them anyway, it would also allow more quality control and would be a great little earner for the taxman. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 In an ideal World I would legalise the lot, people who want them can get them anyway, it would also allow more quality control and would be a great little earner for the taxman. couldnt agree more dayts. also removes the mink factor from dealers and hoodilums. Link to comment
tup Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 There's no bigger mug than yourself walking this earth's surface bluto so I'd say that's a yes Harcus. 2 1 Link to comment
Big Man Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 We've all done illegal drugs. But drugs are bad. I don't touch them. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 There's no bigger mug than yourself walking this earth's surface bluto so I'd say that's a yes Harcus. hey, i can throw a kettle over a pub, what can you do? Link to comment
tup Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It would be much quicker for me to list the things I canna do. Link to comment
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