Flares In Football - For Or Against?

[fine-n-dandy]

They still stone rape victims in some African countries for being unfaithful.

 

Should we do this here as well?

[Moorie86]

I'm against. I'm at a football match, not a fireworks display.

Yeah if you want to bring atmosphere why not bring the rattles back to games?

For f**k sake the ground is half empty these days how stupid would it look some div standing there with 4 boys round him with flare looking a right cock!

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These grounds in Europe pull it off because they are full! How stupid would half empty Pittodrie look? As said earlier you will always get some idiot who will go to far a launch it into the away end. Am sure some the older boys on here will remember when Darts and other objects were launched back and fore. Did a lassie not get a Dart in the head one year in the 70's?

 

I guess now next time I'm at Pittodrie I will have these we chavs wanting a word with me like they have had with others

[pullman_du]

Yeah if you want to bring atmosphere why not bring the rattles back to games?

For f**k sake the ground is half empty these days how stupid would it look some div standing there with 4 boys round him with flare looking a right cock!

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These grounds in Europe pull it off because they are full! How stupid would half empty Pittodrie look? As said earlier you will always get some idiot who will go to far a launch it into the away end. Am sure some the older boys on here will remember when Darts and other objects were launched back and fore. Did a lassie not get a Dart in the head one year in the 70's?

 

I guess now next time I'm at Pittodrie I will have these we chavs wanting a word with me like they have had with others

 

aye, a celtic fan chucked it yet darts still isn't banned. so why are flares ? I jest of course

[RUL]

Yeah if you want to bring atmosphere why not bring the rattles back to games?

For f**k sake the ground is half empty these days how stupid would it look some div standing there with 4 boys round him with flare looking a right cock!

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:laughing:These grounds in Europe pull it off because they are full! How stupid would half empty Pittodrie look? As said earlier you will always get some idiot who will go to far a launch it into the away end. Am sure some the older boys on here will remember when Darts and other objects were launched back and fore. Did a lassie not get a Dart in the head one year in the 70's?

 

I guess now next time I'm at Pittodrie I will have these we chavs wanting a word with me like they have had with others

 

Bollocks min, they pull it off because they don't give a fk what folk think, most grounds are not full as you claim, where it activley happens or has in the past.

 

Fact is, its not legal in Europe either, but force of numbers and the like, its happened at Dons games in the past and will happen again in the future, as it has around Scotland in recent years.

[Tenerifered]

For.........the guy who runs the Armada sur supporters club loves setting off flares

[pullman_du]

For.........the guy who runs the Armada sur supporters club loves setting off flares

 

are you a member of frente blanquiazules as well or just the armada sur ?

[Tenerifered]

are you a member of frente blanquiazules as well or just the armada sur ?

 

 

Not a member but go into the"re bar before the game, stand with them behind the goal and have a Tenerife Ultas tshirt

[pullman_du]

Not a member but go into the"re bar before the game, stand with them behind the goal and have a Tenerife Ultas tshirt

 

antifa muppets. still hope you beat vallecano tomorrow. their lot 'bukaneros' are even more antifa than your lot

 

doubt if any will make the trip from madrid though.

[Tenerifered]

antifa muppets. still hope you beat vallecano tomorrow. their lot 'bukaneros' are even more antifa than your lot

 

doubt if any will make the trip from madrid though.

 

unlike Tenerife last season, taking thousands to the last few away games

[pullman_du]

unlike Tenerife last season, taking thousands to the last few away games

 

why ... did you almost get promoted ?

[RUL]

unlike Tenerife last season, taking thousands to the last few away games

 

Was in Spain 209 and some support you's had at that point, near top of 2nd division, one of your games was on TV, can't mind.

[northside]

obviously a thread where people are asked for an opinion on something will break into an "us and them". folk that are in favour and those that are against. there are also neutrals like myself. just a shame some folk can't comment in threads without resorting to personal abuse. it's that what ruins threads, not the fact people hold differing opinions

 

I agree and Moorie86 doesn't seem to be able to post at all without silly name calling or insults against fellow Dons fans

[onlyjim]

aye, a celtic fan chucked it yet darts still isn't banned. so why are flares ? I jest of course

 

I know you jest but darts are banned as are most sharp object if found on you during a random search.

[pullman_du]

I know you jest but darts are banned as are most sharp object if found on you during a random search.

 

let's get back to the topic of the thread. a lot has been made of flares not being able to burn down modern stadiums, which is quite right, but that they could still set fire to somebodies shell suit or jacket.

 

with that specific scenario in mind, are boxes of matches and cigarette lighters banned from scottish football stadiums ?

[Leon_Mike]

How stupid would half empty Pittodrie look?

 

Er... Well, going by every home game this season, it looks pretty f**king stupid. And has the personality of a morgue

 

Anyway, Norman wi' the red and white socks used to love letting off a cheeky flare and loves the lads, so all is alright.

[Bamber]

let's get back to the topic of the thread. a lot has been made of flares not being able to burn down modern stadiums, which is quite right, but that they could still set fire to somebodies shell suit or jacket.

 

with that specific scenario in mind, are boxes of matches and cigarette lighters banned from scottish football stadiums ?

 

 

Incorrect

 

One of the reasons we are leaving pittodrie is that the main stand safety certificate is in danger of being withdrawn.

 

One of the (many) reasons for this is

 

"The glazing and wall which separates the seating deck in the East Stand from the hospitality areas is not fire resistant."

 

however given that AFC have put extra measures in place that certificate is granted. I wonder how many other stadia in scotland fail to meet safety standards? I do not know however I would imagine there are a few

 

So on that point your premise is quite incorrect

 

secondly they could set fire to some one "when dropped" or even if thrown into the away support (or from the away into the home support) you argue about matches and lighters

 

if you do that with a match then it will go out, if you do it with a lighter it will go out, if you hold a lighter to someone then you are a bloody idiot basically and rightly will end up in court on a very serious charge

 

so again your point doesnt hold either - the only reason you can come up with are stadia are fireproof they are not and you could do they same thing with a lighter - which would set you up for a custodial sentence

 

Even if we take out the undoubted stupidity of using incendaries within a crowd - the question still remains what do they bring to a game of football answer absolutely sod all i think is the only answer

 

I cant see players thinking "oooh im inspired to try harder look at that lovely flare" or a fan thinking "i must sing louder" in fact it would probably be the opposite as a mouthfull of coulored toxic smoke enters their lungs i doubt they would be able to raise more than a whsiper

 

stand free < cough cough cough > wherever < cough wretch cough cough> you may <hughhhhieeeeee > hardly has a ring to it

 

dangerous, pointless and bringing the reverse outcome than would be hoped for

[Dubai-Dandy]

Theres a youtube clip of the Aberdeen Ultras with proper flares a few years ago. I dont know how to post the link.

 

Just search Aberdeen ultras flares.

 

Flares are dangerous and these monkeys just sow that fans can't be trusted.

[fatshaft]

grow up

how ironic

[pullman_du]

how ironic

 

great come back that just proves my original opinion of you. if you've nothing interesting to add just zip it lad :thumbs:

[pullman_du]

Incorrect

 

One of the reasons we are leaving pittodrie is that the main stand safety certificate is in danger of being withdrawn.

 

One of the (many) reasons for this is

 

"The glazing and wall which separates the seating deck in the East Stand from the hospitality areas is not fire resistant."

 

however given that AFC have put extra measures in place that certificate is granted. I wonder how many other stadia in scotland fail to meet safety standards? I do not know however I would imagine there are a few

 

So on that point your premise is quite incorrect

 

secondly they could set fire to some one "when dropped" or even if thrown into the away support (or from the away into the home support) you argue about matches and lighters

 

if you do that with a match then it will go out, if you do it with a lighter it will go out, if you hold a lighter to someone then you are a bloody idiot basically and rightly will end up in court on a very serious charge

 

so again your point doesnt hold either - the only reason you can come up with are stadia are fireproof they are not and you could do they same thing with a lighter - which would set you up for a custodial sentence

 

Even if we take out the undoubted stupidity of using incendaries within a crowd - the question still remains what do they bring to a game of football answer absolutely sod all i think is the only answer

 

I cant see players thinking "oooh im inspired to try harder look at that lovely flare" or a fan thinking "i must sing louder" in fact it would probably be the opposite as a mouthfull of coulored toxic smoke enters their lungs i doubt they would be able to raise more than a whsiper

 

stand free < cough cough cough > wherever < cough wretch cough cough> you may <hughhhhieeeeee > hardly has a ring to it

 

dangerous, pointless and bringing the reverse outcome than would be hoped for

 

we get it, you don't like flares.

[Bamber]

we get it, you don't like flares.

 

 

I more dislike the attitude that they arent dangerous and that they bring something to the game which is clearly wrong on both counts

[pullman_du]

I more dislike the attitude that they arent dangerous and that they bring something to the game which is clearly wrong on both counts

 

again let me point out I don't get excited by them and I don't personally think they add anything to the atmosphere. I also don't think they will ever be legal in this health and safety obsessed country but I'm pro-liberty.

 

they are used at hundreds of stadiums all over europe on a weekly basis and there is no record of any major stadium disasters due to their use. with that in mind I see no reason to get excited over their use in our stadiums. sure if you dig deep enough you'll find a few isolated incidents involving flares but you'll find a lot more injuries caused by things as banal as people falling over seats when celebrating goals for example.

 

in short, if folk want to let them off then I've no problem with that. others such as yourself think otherwise, that's what debate is all about. differing opinions :thumbs:

[RUL]

I more dislike the attitude that they arent dangerous and that they bring something to the game which is clearly wrong on both counts

 

The second statement is your opinion, its not "clearly wrong" because you are not the decider of what's right or wrong. I reckon that they do bring something to the match day experience. Yes nobody is going to be motiviated by one flare being set off, that's why I am proprosing that 20 or more are let off in the Beach End, would look fkn amazing Have a search for Milan or Inter flares, looks fkn brilliant.

 

Again, the above is only my opinion, I am not as arrogant as you are to declare that my opinion is right, as to what makes the match day experience. I say we take it to the test and see what looks better and we'll see what brings more to the match day experience :thumbs:

[zig-a-zig-ah]

The second statement is your opinion, its not "clearly wrong" because you are not the decider of what's right or wrong. I reckon that they do bring something to the match day experience. Yes nobody is going to be motiviated by one flare being set off, that's why I am proprosing that 20 or more are let off in the Beach End, would look fkn amazing Have a search for Milan or Inter flares, looks fkn brilliant.

 

Again, the above is only my opinion, I am not as arrogant as you are to declare that my opinion is right, as to what makes the match day experience. I say we take it to the test and see what looks better and we'll see what brings more to the match day experience :thumbs:

 

If something similar were to happen to Allan Mcgregor I'd be all for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMRD8fGToFY

[RUL]

 

 

 

 

[Leon_Mike]

Surely whether a flare will set a supporter alight depends on how much Hai Karate has been splashed on on that particular day?

[Patty]

Let allow flares in the ground then we can all light our flares, hold them up high, turn our backs to the game and sing Italian footy songs that have nothing to do with Aberdeen.

 

FORZA AFC!

[pullman_du]

Let allow flares in the ground then we can all light our flares, hold them up high, turn our backs to the game and sing Italian footy songs that have nothing to do with Aberdeen.

 

FORZA AFC!

 

aye and while we're doing all that we could of course watch a sport invented in england. isn't it great to embrace new things from foreign countries

[northside]

Let allow flares in the ground then we can all light our flares, hold them up high, turn our backs to the game and sing Italian footy songs that have nothing to do with Aberdeen.

 

FORZA AFC!

 

Or in turn we can just pay our money, sit down and be quiet then leave.

[barrowred]

For.

 

There's enough room at football for people to do what they want within reason. It's the constant sticking of everyone in a designated seat that sees discord. As to 'it's not the Scottish/British culture' viewpoint- so what? What is 'our' way of doing things at Aberdeen currently? It seems to be mostly sitting in silence and then going home to whinge about it on the internet (like I am just now) But of course as it's only half of Europe, North Africa, the US, Canada, South America and even Australia where it's part of football, what possible reason would there be for it to look decent here?