Aberdeen V Accies

[Ke1t]

Bottom line is that this result, barring some apocalyptic collapse, means we stay up. My personal feeling is that given McGhee's best attempts to put us down a division, we've escaped that fate and anything else this season is just icing on the sh*t cake.

 

IF.. and it's an if of Jupiter-sized proportions... IF Brown is allowed to bring in his own players and punt the pish then we can worry about things like cups and top six finishes.

 

I'm still not even remotely convinced that 'The Board' have the ambition to match Brown and Knox, and feel it's more likely that once the situation is stabilised Brown and Knox will be hung out to dry.

[Sonoftherock]

Bottom line is that this result, barring some apocalyptic collapse, means we stay up. My personal feeling is that given McGhee's best attempts to put us down a division, we've escaped that fate and anything else this season is just icing on the sh*t cake.

 

IF.. and it's an if of Jupiter-sized proportions... IF Brown is allowed to bring in his own players and punt the pish then we can worry about things like cups and top six finishes.

 

I'm still not even remotely convinced that 'The Board' have the ambition to match Brown and Knox, and feel it's more likely that once the situation is stabilised Brown and Knox will be hung out to dry.

 

These are pretty much my thoughts exactly.

[Tommy]

What's this everyone back defending dead balls nonsense all about ?

All this does is invites the opposition to attack us in numbers.

Surely when defending dead balls we leave at least 2 up front meaning that

at least 3 defenders and keeper are not attacking us.

And why are players coached to run backwards when opposition are attacking ?

Go and meet them before they get to the danger areas.

Last night Hamilton were being invited to attack us and we will be made to look

stupid if we attempt that on saturday.

[RTYD]

We're scoofing at my apartment for a whiley afore heading clubbing. Apple Kopparberg in a tinny! Beastin! Anywhoos. Might as well hae it on in the background...

 

Think I'll dawn the techt jeans thenight to be on the safe side haha.

 

Your old man said you missed the game at the weekend.

[Red Loon]

Bottom line is that this result, barring some apocalyptic collapse, means we stay up. My personal feeling is that given McGhee's best attempts to put us down a division, we've escaped that fate and anything else this season is just icing on the sh*t cake.

 

IF.. and it's an if of Jupiter-sized proportions... IF Brown is allowed to bring in his own players and punt the pish then we can worry about things like cups and top six finishes.

 

I'm still not even remotely convinced that 'The Board' have the ambition to match Brown and Knox, and feel it's more likely that once the situation is stabilised Brown and Knox will be hung out to dry.

 

Diamond will stay and worse.......Smith will go back to Norwich and Foster will return, ready once more to turn attack into defence through kindergarten mistakes that allow first division teams to boot us out of cups.

[spamspamspam]

Horrific. We mustered 2 shots on target and 1 was the pen. They managed 3. Bebo did miss about 4 chances that were easier to score mind you but think Hamilton will feel bit hard done by to lose.

 

We just never got going at all.

 

 

Long ball from end to end maybe, with a few chances coming from defensive errors on both sides.

 

 

Good advert for taking a tranny with you then, aye a tranny radio

[barassie_afc]

Horrific. We mustered 2 shots on target and 1 was the pen. They managed 3. Bebo did miss about 4 chances that were easier to score mind you but think Hamilton will feel bit hard done by to lose.

 

We just never got going at all.

 

 

International class striker

[K-9]

What's this everyone back defending dead balls nonsense all about ?

All this does is invites the opposition to attack us in numbers.

Surely when defending dead balls we leave at least 2 up front meaning that

at least 3 defenders and keeper are not attacking us.

And why are players coached to run backwards when opposition are attacking ?

Go and meet them before they get to the danger areas.

Last night Hamilton were being invited to attack us and we will be made to look

stupid if we attempt that on saturday.

Hate it. Win ball and clear it and going straight to opposition in miles of space and lets them have free attack. Happened a few times last night.

[boboisared]

What's this everyone back defending dead balls nonsense all about ?

All this does is invites the opposition to attack us in numbers.

Surely when defending dead balls we leave at least 2 up front meaning that

at least 3 defenders and keeper are not attacking us.

And why are players coached to run backwards when opposition are attacking ?

Go and meet them before they get to the danger areas.

Last night Hamilton were being invited to attack us and we will be made to look

stupid if we attempt that on saturday.

Tommy if it was up to me I'd leave three forward. Less clutter in the box so the corners need to be precise and if we clear it properly we have a good chance of breaking. Maybe a bit too gung ho though.

 

If it was a good European side we were playing I'd advocate running backwards so they have less space to knock the ball in to but against sh*te like Hamilton we should be harrying them so they have no chance to see what's happening before they make the pass. Top class sides will just knock it past you (as we saw with Dnipro) if you charge at them but Hamilton will never be in that class.

 

Only caught the second half on the wireless after training but they made it sound like a great game. Booth went on to say that Bebo put in a lot of work and played well but fluffed his lines when he had his three chances. Still plenty for the lad to work on. I don't view him as a goal scorer though, more of a provider and worker who can also get goals. Vernon is the man there to put it in the net.

[King Street Loon]

How Bebo got MOTM I,ll never know.

Suppose it's a case of best of a bad bunch lastnight.

But it was like watching Darren Mackie out there lastnight.

Poor touch, poor control, poor decision making and poor finishing.

 

If Maguire really does have aspirations to play at a higher level, then he's going to have to do a hell of a lot better.

 

In my view Milsom was better. At least he was in about most things and trying to make things happen.

[RTYD]

Tommy if it was up to me I'd leave three forward. Less clutter in the box so the corners need to be precise and if we clear it properly we have a good chance of breaking. Maybe a bit too gung ho though.

 

If it was a good European side we were playing I'd advocate running backwards so they have less space to knock the ball in to but against sh*te like Hamilton we should be harrying them so they have no chance to see what's happening before they make the pass. Top class sides will just knock it past you (as we saw with Dnipro) if you charge at them but Hamilton will never be in that class.

 

Only caught the second half on the wireless after training but they made it sound like a great game. Booth went on to say that Bebo put in a lot of work and played well but fluffed his lines when he had his three chances. Still plenty for the lad to work on. I don't view him as a goal scorer though, more of a provider and worker who can also get goals. Vernon is the man there to put it in the net.

 

 

The Mourinho way.

 

If we leave three up they must leave a minimum of three back plus the goalkeeper.

 

With the guy taking the corner that leaves them with a maximum of six in the box against our eight, one of whom (post Langfield) can come out and catch the ball.

 

Very very simple.

 

The inherent negativity of today's coaches has meant us watching the nonsense we currently see.

[boboisared]

The Mourinho way.

 

If we leave three up they must leave a minimum of three back plus the goalkeeper.

 

With the guy taking the corner that leaves them with a maximum of six in the box against our eight, one of whom (post Langfield) can come out and catch the ball.

 

Very very simple.

 

The inherent negativity of today's coaches has meant us watching the nonsense we currently see.

In theory aye but you'll get the odd team who steam forward to catch us out. I'd bet that we'd catch them out far more times than they catch us.

 

I'd also take the man off the back post and have him at the edge of the six yard box from the side of the corner facing the kicker. The amount of corners that don't clear that area is ridiculous but if you leave it open IMO you leave yourself open to far more goals than you do protecting the back.

 

I read some sort of blog (think it was the Guardian online) from a secret professional footballer. He basically said the stats were worked out and far more goals are scored over the course of a season from teams not protecting the ball in to the near post than teams leaving the back post open. Two players on the back post is old school and needs modernised.

[RAZOR]

lol, scores the goal that wins the game and what happens?

 

still getting ripped.

 

unreal

What do you feel he done well in open play?

[barassie_afc]

lol, scores the goal that wins the game and what happens?

 

still getting ripped.

 

unreal

 

Scored a pen, but could have scored 2 more and put the game out of doubt, or lifted his head and passed to a team mate. Thats not international class, I didnt say he was pish

[boboisared]

lol, scores the goal that wins the game and what happens?

 

still getting ripped.

 

unreal

If Derek young had taken the penalty last night and still played the way he did would it be unreal to give him a pasting?

 

Maguire missed what was described as fabulous chances. One of them by some way apparently as well.

 

I'm a fan of him as a player but because he scored a penalty that doesn't make me think "great game".

[Tommy]

lol, scores the goal that wins the game and what happens?

 

still getting ripped.

 

unreal

 

 

It was one of those "you needed to be there" moments.

 

He had Vernon better placed and should have passed but he opted for glory and failed - for the umpteenth

time in his career. He's just not a natural goalscorer.

[Betty Swallicks]

lol, scores the goal that wins the game and what happens?

 

still getting ripped.

 

unreal

 

 

 

You weegies a stick together eh.

 

 

Two clean sheets in a row.

[RAZOR]

It was one of those "you needed to be there" moments.

 

He had Vernon better placed and should have passed but he opted for glory and failed - for the umpteenth

time in his career. He's just not a natural goalscorer.

Fact.

[Old Wing Stand]

lol, scores the goal that wins the game and what happens?

 

still getting ripped.

 

unreal

 

So he scored a penalty but what about the 3 or 4 great chances he missed, one thing he wont get that amount of chances on saturday,

[dezzy_dan]

In theory aye but you'll get the odd team who steam forward to catch us out. I'd bet that we'd catch them out far more times than they catch us.

 

I'd also take the man off the back post and have him at the edge of the six yard box from the side of the corner facing the kicker. The amount of corners that don't clear that area is ridiculous but if you leave it open IMO you leave yourself open to far more goals than you do protecting the back.

 

I read some sort of blog (think it was the Guardian online) from a secret professional footballer. He basically said the stats were worked out and far more goals are scored over the course of a season from teams not protecting the ball in to the near post than teams leaving the back post open. Two players on the back post is old school and needs modernised.

 

I read that blog too. Very good insight into life as a pro footballer.

 

The player in question with regards to the corners is Drogba. It was calculated that he clears over 100 corners a season by lurking around in that front past area not picking anyone up. Clearly that is quite a defensive weapon to have, especially when you consider that the same blog found that only 2 goals were scored over the course of the season by not having a man on the post. I would still cover both posts, but the free man at the front post is vital. Even in this thread people are moaning about the lack of quality in set pieces and not beating the first man.

[RAZOR]

yawn

 

had the cajones to take the penalty on and scored it

 

yet he still gets ripped

 

pathetic

Im going to have to do a LS here.

 

Stuggling to answer the question?

[RAZOR]

got many strings to his bow

Elaborate?

 

i dont need to know

 

if we'd drawn 1-1, or lost 2-1, fair enough, criticise the chances he missed

 

if we win by the pentalty he had the balls to hit himself, give him credit

So you have no idea on earth how he played, you just assume becuase he scored a penalty he doesnt deserve criticism for his performance?

 

I though your perspective awareness was above the avergae human?

[RAZOR]

it is

 

we won, he scored the winning goal - he's the hero

if we'd drawn or lost, he'd be the villain for missing the chances

 

however, in another game, ie hearts on saturday where he might need to take the chances, he may very well do so

 

so whats the problem?

,

 

Problem is his ability to take chances which are all but put on a plate for him time and time again. That instead of looking up for his teamates who are in a better postion, he constantly feels the need to be a greedy little attention seeker.

[Foster14]

In my view Milsom was better. At least he was in about most things and trying to make things happen.

 

What was Maguire doing the whole match? Always looking for space and offering for the pass, making runs and offering plenty. His finishing was dire, and he made a couple of poor decisions being greedy. He needs to learn that when he f**ks up, he can't just spend the rest of the game rectifying it.

 

As far as MotM goes though, I look at it from a positive perspective and I think that he was trying to make things happen and having a bit more success than Milsom who was overrun in midfield for large spells. His threat was nullified for large parts, as we Aluko's.

 

To put it most simply, he was the player least sucked in the mediocrity that sets in a game with Hamilton over and over again.

[boboisared]

I read that blog too. Very good insight into life as a pro footballer.

 

The player in question with regards to the corners is Drogba. It was calculated that he clears over 100 corners a season by lurking around in that front past area not picking anyone up. Clearly that is quite a defensive weapon to have, especially when you consider that the same blog found that only 2 goals were scored over the course of the season by not having a man on the post. I would still cover both posts, but the free man at the front post is vital. Even in this thread people are moaning about the lack of quality in set pieces and not beating the first man.

Yeah. I'm away to search and see if there is anymore. I was actually quite surprised at how thorough the match preparation is in the EPL. Although I liked him I can't imagine ours under Jimmy being anything like that.

 

Going off on a tangent here but is Billy Reid the new Jimmy Calderwood? Plenty of media praise about the way his team play the game when maybe the teams plays well as he had players at the time that could knock the ball about. When those players leave and you're with lesser mentally skilled players you're shown up a bit.

[RTYD]

21 Hamilton fans.

 

That's pathetic.

 

It's worse than that. Only three of them paid at the gate. The rest were complimentaries.

[RAZOR]

what, like Ronaldo is?

 

Like Cantona was?

 

is that the problem, hes got something about him, something different in his personality and youre intimidated by that because you dont?

Here come the world famous comparisons,

 

What does his personality have to do with his footballing ability?

[K-9]

In theory aye but you'll get the odd team who steam forward to catch us out. I'd bet that we'd catch them out far more times than they catch us.

 

I'd also take the man off the back post and have him at the edge of the six yard box from the side of the corner facing the kicker. The amount of corners that don't clear that area is ridiculous but if you leave it open IMO you leave yourself open to far more goals than you do protecting the back.

 

I read some sort of blog (think it was the Guardian online) from a secret professional footballer. He basically said the stats were worked out and far more goals are scored over the course of a season from teams not protecting the ball in to the near post than teams leaving the back post open. Two players on the back post is old school and needs modernised.

The theory is apparently having 11 back and zonal in box is proven to lead to less goals conceded. A quick scan at the goals conceded by us at set pieces would blow that theory out of the water this season. Must have lost about 15.

[boboisared]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/29/secret-footballer-andy-gray-pundits

 

Here it's.

[barassie_afc]

The theory is apparently having 11 back and zonal in box is proven to lead to less goals conceded. A quick scan at the goals conceded by us at set pieces would blow that theory out of the water this season. Must have lost about 15.

 

 

We have Zander Diamond