St Mirren V Aberdeen

[minijc]

Starting to wonder if getting rid of McGhee was a bad idea now, nothing much has changed.

[zander]

Starting to wonder if getting rid of McGhee was a bad idea now, nothing much has changed.

 

Nae sure min, nothings changed obviously but looking back at when Brown came in that string of good results may have just saved us.

[Jack_Glass]

Starting to wonder if getting rid of McGhee was a bad idea now, nothing much has changed.

 

its the injuries that are killing us, browns been left a poor squad that were poorly trained and managed by mcghee, plus guys like smith, mcnamee, milsom still need time to settle and get used to CB's style, but at least CB is now seeing the rubbish we have and will know exactly who to shift on, problem is will he have the cash to bring in better?

[vanderark14]

Starting to wonder if getting rid of McGhee was a bad idea now, nothing much has changed.

 

elsewhere you said certain players didn't try for him so what would have been the point in keeping him, we needed a lift to keep us up. now is the crucial crossroad, we are safe but theres an even bigger mountain to climb now

[barassie_afc]

We benefitted from new manager syndrome which has probably kept us up

[zander]

getting rid of mcghee was a bad idea?

 

mate, go further back, getting rid of calderwood was a f**king joke

 

Rightly or wrongly please don't bring this up again weve had two years of it, its gone please move on we are f**ked.

[Dom Sullivan]

getting rid of mcghee was a bad idea?

 

mate, go further back, getting rid of calderwood was a f**king joke

OFFS - wondered how long it would be before this old chestnut reared its head.

 

moving f**king on.

[barassie_afc]

are we really safe??

 

fair enough hamilton are probably too far behind us, but we could still finish second bottom which is an absolute disgrace

 

Which is where mcghee may have had us but we wouldnt have splurged 500k ish on contracts etc makes you wonder

 

Not that i think gettin brown in was wrong

[fifered]

getting rid of mcghee was a bad idea?

 

mate, go further back, getting rid of calderwood was a f**king joke

Calderwood was a fu**ing joke. Just look at the last lot of signings he made, Kerr, McDonald, Wright and the other drivel. Anyway, that's been done to death so change the record.

 

AFC have been going backwards for ages relying on a team based largely on a group of loosers, Zander, Aluko, Langfield, Young and when they are back Mackie and Foster. The club needs a complete clear out from top to bottom or this continued bile we are served up will continue season after season. I can't wait for the day I watch and Aberdeen team with none of the above playing. Zander going to Hearts is hopefully the start of the upward trend.

[centraldon]

Calderwood was a fu**ing joke. Just look at the last lot of signings he made, Kerr, McDonald, Wright and the other drivel. Anyway, that's been done to death so change the record.

 

AFC have been going backwards for ages relying on a team based largely on a group of loosers, Zander, Aluko, Langfield, Young and when they are back Mackie and Foster. The club needs a complete clear out from top to bottom or this continued bile we are served up will continue season after season. I can't wait for the day I watch and Aberdeen team with none of the above playing. Zander going to Hearts is hopefully the start of the upward trend.

Never thought I'd say it, but correct. For all the potential he came to nothing. Just a liability. Will be interesting to see what Hearts can do with him.

[fifered]

Never thought I'd say it, but correct. For all the potential he came to nothing. Just a liability. Will be interesting to see what Hearts can do with him.

I've a few mates who are ST holders at Tynecastle...they are gutted to say the least.

[K-9]

Nae sure min, nothings changed obviously but looking back at when Brown came in that string of good results may have just saved us.

Think the extra money released by board to take in few extra players is precisely what saved us this season. Huge huge job in summer and just not sure Brown will get the backing from above financially to do it.

[The Oxford Don]

Plenty has changed since McGhee, but the shambles inherited by Brown has completely handicapped him. Even a decent manager like Brown (and he is a decent manager) cannot spin threads of gold from absolute sh*te.

 

Brown has stabilised us and given the players (as poor as they are) a bit of fight, belief and organisation, which in the SPL is enough to guarantee safety because the overall standard is so pish.

 

Had McGhee remained we'd be giving Hamilton a run for their money right now and would be staring a genuine relegation dogfight in the face. As it is, we're third bottom, safe barring a collapse of farcical proportions... but still fundametally crap. That last point ain't gonna change without investment over the summer and a clear-out of a shedload of the incumbents.

[Jazzer_Bett]

Agree TOD-I'm not angry at MrB and Knoxy, just the embarrassing standard of player we have.

 

I want an entirely new back 5 for f**king start. Make Clangers back up and sign up Smith perhaps but we need 4 defenders who can defend I.E. f**king concentrate, win headers and win tackles

 

Aberdeen has been synonymous with spastic defending since McLeish left.

[Pudgie]

Aberdeen has been synonymous with spastic defending since McLeish left.

Certainly going back as far as I can remember you're funking spot on! Bus, Whyte, Solberg, Severin, Hart (in his earlier days), Byrne, Diamond, Foster, Mulgrew. Let's just pack up and go home... Forget all this football malarky!

[Stoneybloke]

In his interview after the match tonight Craig Brown says it like it is, albeit in his usual nice sort of diplomatic way.

 

Some quotes are:

 

"our defending was not of a suitable standard"

 

"we conceded bad goals and defended badly, players were unmarked"

 

"St. Mirren had a good work ethic" - (perhaps implying that we didn't.............)

 

I'm beginning to feel sorry for him, he obviously sees the mess he has got himself into. He must be thinking that this is not an ideal way to end a long, high-profile career.

[rossafc92]

Tonight made it clear that a turd cannot be polished. We lack players, and decent ones at that. Injuries are seriously starting to take their toll as well. We all know there are not many things that can be done with this current crop. I don't put that down to a lack of effort from them, just the fact that we're having to play so many out of position because we actually don't have players to play there at all, or injuries are meaning others have to cover in areas they're uncomfortable in.

 

Anyway, player ratings...

 

Langfield: He didn't actually have too much to do. St Mirren rarely threatened in the final third enough to test him. In fact their second goal was their first shot of the second half (I think?) 6/10

 

McArdle: No full back but he can be trusted to do his job defensively. His distribution becomes more and more like Ifil's with every game that goes by. Looks to have picked up a sore one with that dislocated shoulder. 6/10

 

Diamond: Can't wait until he leaves. Caught out of position a lot tonight, just like any other game. 5/10

 

Considine: After a decent game on Saturday, I thought he was poor tonight. Marking was poor and think it was his positioning that cost us their opener. 5/10

 

Smith: Always enjoy to see him bursting down the left, just his crossing wasn't really up to scratch. 6/10

 

Paton: Got his first start tonight and blew it. Had a good few touches, flicks and turns but what he did for their 3rd was suicidal. 4/10

 

Milsom: Played better today than he did on Saturday - good strike for his goal at the end as well. 6/10

 

Young: Starting to get fed up with him. Puts in the effort, just doesn't have the quality. Thought he played ok tonight, but the St Mirren central midfielders look a fair bit better than him. 5/10

 

Pawlett: Looked very rusty on his return to the starting line up. In fact some of his touches and passes were terrible. Hopefully it was just rustiness. 4/10

 

Maguire: Looked a bit busier through the middle and his touches and turns were better tonight than they were at Fir Park. Still though, he gets too greedy when there is a simple pass available. 6/10

 

Magennis: Won his fair share of headers and got in and around the Saints defence but just didn't do enough for his size and pace. 5/10.

 

Subs...

 

Jack: Actually thought he made quite a good immediate impact, but soon fizzled out.

Vujadinovic: Looked fairly solid for the short time he was on the park. Calmer and more composed than Diamond anyway.

Vernon: Thought Aluko should have come on instead. Vernon didn't really change anything. Would have been more use keeping Magennis on I think.

 

One thing that really frustrated me about tonight was the long ball tactic in the first half - it just didn't work but we kept doing it. In the second half we then did too much of the opposite and we hit a phase of constant passing around the box and then giving it back to the defence, instead of just getting it in there or having a pop. Look what happened when Milsom went for a shot. If only he'd thought about doing that earlier and we might have been in with a chance.

 

Anyway, it's obvious that our resources are being stretched. It's a simple case of us needing more players. An attacking midfielder and fast winger should be near the top of the list.

[RUL]

Another hopeless performance I thought. Rounded off by some folk still applauding the team off the park, brilliant.

 

 

 

 

[barassie_afc]

Another hopeless performance I thought. Rounded off by some folk still applauding the team off the park, brilliant.

 

same folk that think young adds value and like mackie

[Stoney]

getting rid of mcghee was a bad idea?

 

mate, go further back, getting rid of calderwood was a f**king joke

 

Really?

 

Failed at killie and failing at Ross County.

 

Face it your mans a farce.

[Jazzer_Bett]

In his interview after the match tonight Craig Brown says it like it is, albeit in his usual nice sort of diplomatic way.

 

Some quotes are:

 

"our defending was not of a suitable standard"

 

"we conceded bad goals and defended badly, players were unmarked"

 

"St. Mirren had a good work ethic" - (perhaps implying that we didn't.............)

 

I'm beginning to feel sorry for him, he obviously sees the mess he has got himself into. He must be thinking that this is not an ideal way to end a long, high-profile career

 

Well thats encouraging in light of my post - he clearly sees that none of these muppets can defend. We need an experienced leader backed up by some streetbrawlers.

 

PS Where was Vern last night - getting rested?

[Dandydon D]

This is the first season in my life I have lost a chunk of passion for AFC. Given up going to away games now and cant be arsed with the semi final. Went to the last one and cant be bothered going through all that again so soon.

 

Utter utter shambles of a season and holy sh*t isnt the remainder of this season going to drag on.

 

The way things are going, we had better hope that Hamilton dont have a sudden surge of form. Unlikely by the looks of things but you never know.

 

Next season cant come quick enough but who is to say it will be any better !

[Johnny Mac]

We are abysmal.

 

f**k the semi final now. We are going to get rogered.

 

Not wasting any more time, money or effort on that shower of sh1te.

[fifered]

This is the first season in my life I have lost a chunk of passion for AFC. Given up going to away games now and cant be arsed with the semi final. Went to the last one and cant be bothered going through all that again so soon.

 

Utter utter shambles of a season and holy sh*t isnt the remainder of this season going to drag on.

 

The way things are going, we had better hope that Hamilton dont have a sudden surge of form. Unlikely by the looks of things but you never know.

 

Next season cant come quick enough but who is to say it will be any better !

I got to this point 2 years ago and to be honest, giving up going to the Dons games every Saturday has made my life a lot happier and less stressful! I only go occasionally but each time reminds me of why I gave up. The spine of this squad has been hanging around Pittodrie for years now. They are a bunch over self important over hyped losers.

 

Their behaviour towards McGhee when he first came to the club was shocking and they blatantly never played for him, 9-0 at Parkhead being the perfect illustration of their lack of professionalism. Craig Brown needs the backing to completely disassemble this squad and bring in a brand new bunch of players who have nothing to do with the losers we currently have. To be chasing Aluko, Diamond and Langfield for new contracts is embarrassing, they are all p!sh and should be shown the door along with the likes of Mackie, Maguire, Young and Foster. A brand new fresh start is needed or the Dons will die after apathy infects the whole support.

[Stoney]

Spot on Fife Red

 

Sums it up perfectly.

[vanderark14]

I got to this point 2 years ago and to be honest, giving up going to the Dons games every Saturday has made my life a lot happier and less stressful! I only go occasionally but each time reminds me of why I gave up. The spine of this squad has been hanging around Pittodrie for years now. They are a bunch over self important over hyped losers.

 

Their behaviour towards McGhee when he first came to the club was shocking and they blatantly never played for him, 9-0 at Parkhead being the perfect illustration of their lack of professionalism. Craig Brown needs the backing to completely disassemble this squad and bring in a brand new bunch of players who have nothing to do with the losers we currently have. To be chasing Aluko, Diamond and Langfield for new contracts is embarrassing, they are all p!sh and should be shown the door along with the likes of Mackie, Maguire, Young and Foster. A brand new fresh start is needed or the Dons will die after apathy infects the whole support.

 

I am the same, up until 2 years ago I attended most home games and a handful of away games, now its very seldom you will see me at pittodrie.

 

You are spot on with the highlighted part, the ball is in the boards court now, lets see if they step up

[RUL]

Not just the boards court, its about time one of our managers took a bit of responsibility and punted the sh*te players once and for all.

 

I'd

 

 

[Dandydon D]

This has all got a very strange feel about it. Something i have never experienced in my days following the dons.

 

There is a huge black cloud over Pittodrie at the moment and its bloody hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel.

 

I wasnt Caldewoods biggest fan (dont mean to cast him up yet again!) but there was a certain buzz around the whole city in that 2-3 years. Have some cracking memories and 2 amazing trips abroad in europe. We were only 1-2 players short of a very very good side but finances dictated otherwise.

 

Where on earth do we go from here ? Were scraping the bottom of the barrel and its soul destroying when it becomes a chore to attend pittodrie. Even more so when you see the collection of utter arsholes who run out the tunnel at 3 o'clock in a red jersey.

 

We can only live in hope that something major is done this summer and im sure CB has an extensive list of players already marked. Just hope the board back him 110% and make a real go of things next season.

[vanderark14]

Not just the boards court, its about time one of our managers took a bit of responsibility and punted the sh*te players once and for all.

 

I'd

 

and to punt them requires money for releasing their contracts and money to replace them, this has to come from above

[Mikeyboy1903]

It's very very clear that the players know we are bottom six ... so they don't give a monkey's.

 

All out of contract players ... there is the exit, Thanks but no thanks.

 

Craig Brown was spoken to by Stu Milne not Miller .... Goodbye Miller you bring nothing to the club apart from milking us at the tit year after year.

 

Craig and Knoxy ..... I firmly trust you and the people that can bring us a decent squad and success .

 

All this requires money which I really can't see happening ...