vanderark14 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 however, he is showing a very good response to the chants and the idiots sending the "bombs", basically 2 fingers to them all, and a fukk you, im not changing for you bams? you think a good response to lives being threatened is to make it worse? Link to comment
diamondsr4ever Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 you think a good response to lives being threatened is to make it worse? im on the fence mate with his reaction in all honesty Link to comment
Kilkito Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Lennon has enough experience of this game to know he should have f**ked off up the tunnel immediately after the game. I don't deny thats what he should have done, I just think that in the heat of the moment, its not surprising that he reacted, and I personally wouldn't criticse him for it. As for the "fan" who complained to the police, totally rediculous, "oi copper, do something about that bam cupping his hands to his ears as 40,000 of us boo, whistle and jeer him, with our faces contorted with hate" - total joke. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I don't deny thats what he should have done, I just think that in the heat of the moment, its not surprising that he reacted, and I personally wouldn't criticse him for it. As for the "fan" who complained to the police, totally rediculous, "oi copper, do something about that bam cupping his hands to his ears as 40,000 of us boo, whistle and jeer him, with our faces contorted with hate" - total joke. fair enough min, I do think he deserves some criticism for his actions, its obvious to everyone that winding up the hordes has consequences but he doesn't seem to give a sh*t about that. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I read a thread about that on the TAMB and most are stating that this wasn't sung at all, I don't know as I only saw parts of the game. You are right they deserve criticism and more of it if they were singing it. Lennon has enough experience of this game to know he should have f**ked off up the tunnel immediately after the game. He responded to sickness by cupping his hands to his ears yet he gets criticism and the sickness gets ignored? How does that work? What consequences will ensue from his cupped ears? Will a sick person get even sicker with hate because of this? Haven't the clubs been told to stamp out bigotry, an exercise in futility as the sickness is within their fabric and history? Lennon responds yet you focus on his response, completely ignoring the problem. Craig Burley is not my favourite writer but you should read his article yesterday. Then, once you've understood the whole issue just a little bit, and hopefully picked up some context and critical thinking abilities along the way, then you might earn the right to say something on a public forum that others might be interested in listening to because at the moment, you're spikkin total bollocks. the only one speaking bollock as per usual is you. try and read threads before jumping in. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Cause and effect. I'm sure you've heard of it. You say he should've gone straight up the tunnel. I don't think you have the right to tell another man what to do but by ignoring the problem and focusing on the response - as innocuous as his was - you fail to think the right way round. Also, the human element of his response is ignored by you. Real men don't run from sick fuelled hate and abuse. That's what pussies do. Lennon continues to expose the real issue. You don't even understand it. Read Burley as you were advised to do, then you might eventually post something that we might want to hear. post a link to Burley's article and I will read it RS just to humour you for today since I'm bored. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 You receive advice, you want to act on the advice and now you want me to do the work to link it for you as well? I'm sure 5 seconds of effort on your part might work. Sunday Times. we will have to leave it there then as I'm not paying to subscribe to the sunday times just to read that article. I'll leave you with this, the huns deserve far more criticism for their chants if the did indeed sing that to Lennon but no way should he be let off the hook and portrayed as some sort of victim in all of this. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Of course he's a f**king victim, he got a nail bomb sent to his house! wrong choice of words from me bripod. the ones to blame for all of this are the two clubs in glasgow as far as I'm concerned. Both of of them feed of the hatred and it was only a matter of time before the looneys got involved like last week. Lennon is an easy target as he winds them all up and he shouldn't do it when he knows exactly what can happen. In an ideal workd we'd be rid of this bull sh*t but its not an ideal world Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Think Lennon's reaction yesterday just adds fuel to the fire and I don't believe he realises how serious things are, he thinks its just one big joke. The people I really feel sorry for after his reaction yesterday is his family, no thought for them whatsoever judging by his reaction. Link to comment
diamondsr4ever Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 my 1st reaction on Sunday towards Lennon, was " f**k ksake min" do you really need anymore hassle this week. Then on reflection I thought, well he has a right to stand-up to these thick c**ts, I think he had every right to go to his fans and players at the end of the game, and in the same circumstances, I think I would have given as good as I was getting from the Rangers "fans" Link to comment
amancalledbuck Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I agree with everything that Rocket says. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 You continue to ignore the real issue. Where does the hatred come from? How did it start? What are the roots of it? Blaming Lennon for being the focal point for hun bigotry is madness. Failure to understand the bigotry on both sides invalidates any point that you make. Blaming the clubs for "all of this" is insane. Much as they do have a degree of culpability, they are a manifestation of the big problem, not the cause of it.Religion and brainwashed mentalists are to blame. Always has been, always will be! Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Yes, the bigoted sickboys are the major contributors to "all this" but we can go further and examine the role of religion, it's relationship with the state, how religion has been used to control the hearts and minds, how this has been abused and what the real motivators were. Then we can look at empire building and borders and colonialism and crimes against humanity and genocide and land theft and if we know our history, we would know that Lennon is not the problem and that he represents something that the bigoted other side aren't used to. The issue is known to all critical thinkers in the country, including the First Minister. It is so ingrained in Scottish culture, in particular the west of Scotland and has been abused and exploited by the OF when it suits them, that nobody knows how to fix it. The indoctrination is so severe that politicians have neither the way nor the will to tackle it, many of them being similarly inflicted, having been brought up in the wos and steeped in it by default, there being no escape from the vileness for anyone brought up in that sickness. As Craig f**king Burley said yesterday, as I said with my Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Anyone who defends lennons reaction is a complete joke. Yes he deserves sympathy but he has to remember the position he is in. His reaction yesterday does nothing to help the situation, let the club deal with it rather than being a vigilante. No one deserves the a bomb sent to their family home, but if it did happen you would keep as low a profile as possible. I just think Rockets defence of lennon is hillarious, if it was aberdeens manager reacting in the way lennon is I would be very embarrassed at the naieveity showed. Link to comment
Scarface Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Apologies if this has already been posted - breaking news on the radio is that a Celtic fan has alerted police after he received a package containing "unusual and suspicious items" this morning. Strathclyde Police have confirmed that the parcel contained soap, shower gel and deodorant. Link to comment
brownie Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have to laugh at the idea that Lennon is being targeted because he is a Northern Irish Catholic. If this really is the case then where were Martin O'Neill's bombs ? Link to comment
Pudgie Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have to laugh at the idea that Lennon is being targeted because he is a Northern Irish Catholic. If this really is the case then where were Martin O'Neill's bombs ?That's not the case. Martin O'Neil isn't a c**t... Lennon most certainly is. Link to comment
Pudgie Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Although Artur Boruc was is a c**t too and he doesn't get nail bombs. Irish Catholic from Northern Ireland + c**t = terrorist target in the eyes of Rangers fans, eh terroristsAgreed, but Lennon's cuntishness seems to be week in week out. Boruc's was every few months and only usually against the scum. Link to comment
brownie Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 That's not the case. Martin O'Neil isn't a c**t... Lennon most certainly is. No no no, don't you understand ? It's anti-catholic propoganda that has been allowed to manifest itself over many years in Scotland. The Protestants are the reason and in no way is Lennon allowed to be blamed for any of this. He is a salt of the earth guy who sticking up to the establishment Joking aside, I agree with you. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 http://twitter.com/#!/BBCBreaking http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13203623 Link to comment
Pudgie Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Will it be that long before the whoore is actually blown up? There's some affa f**ked up people on earth and I can see them targeting Monsuir Lennon for a big old boom! Link to comment
Pudgie Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Lennon was booed by his own fans and had RIP Neil Lennon murals put on walls when playing for Northern Ireland, that's nothing to do with being a c**t and everything to do with his religion and where's he's from.That's certainly got a lot to do with religion. But he's been a massive c**t lately, and I think that's played a huge part in this whole bomb thingimy. Link to comment
RUL Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 His own fans booed him because he was a negative fker as a footballer who became an easy target. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Nothing to do with Lennon this time round: The Scottish Football Association is set to reject an appeal from Motherwell against the decision to give Celtic more than a 50% share of tickets for the Scottish Cup final. (Daily Record) Just something that riled me. thats going to make it a neutral ground again then Link to comment
madjockmcferson Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I doubt Motherwell could sell 26,000 tickets. Their average gate is 5,000 or so. They don't deserve 50%. Link to comment
woohoo Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I doubt Motherwell could sell 26,000 tickets. Their average gate is 5,000 or so. They don't deserve 50%. We're not a million miles off that this season, would you be saying that then? My thoughts are every team should be given the chance to sell 50% of the allocation. If, come a week til the big day, any sections of Hampden they haven't sold should be siphoned off to the opponent. Link to comment
baconman Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Lennons a prick. As far as I am concerned hes made a rod for his own back. Off course he doesnt deserve death threats and letter bombs but his behaviour in an already volatile situation has just up'd the ante especially when antagonising knuckle dragging racist bigots from both proddy and tim backgrounds. In fact hes probably one himself because if he wasnt and even had an ounce of intelligence he woudnt have got himself into this mess in the first place. It didnt happen to Martin O'Neil, a catholic who used to play for NI? So why is it happening to Lennon??? The best thing he can do is quit and f**k off back to NI. Link to comment
tup Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I doubt Motherwell could sell 26,000 tickets. Their average gate is 5,000 or so. They don't deserve 50%. Of course they do. It's called fairness, and equality. Their average attendance is totally irrelevant. Celtic never sold out their end for the semi-final. On that basis, they dinna deserve the lion's share for the final, they're not exactly beating down the door for tickets themselves in the earlier rounds. 15k versus St Mirren in the league cup at home etc etc. Motherwell absolutely deserve a half share of the tickets. This should never be in question, 50:50 no matter who reaches the final. Only if tickets are unsold, and in demand from your opponents, should a different split be considered. Link to comment
ABZ RED Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I doubt Motherwell could sell 26,000 tickets. Their average gate is 5,000 or so. They don't deserve 50%.Bollocks ignorant argument. Your old folk that contributed to the average gate in the 60s, the fans who live in other parts of the country and can rarely get along to a game, the fans who can't afford to spunk wages towards football every week, the fans who live abroad and will fly back for the final...f**k them all because they don't go every week? On the contrary, how many of the 26k tims will be supporting their local club at the final? Link to comment
madjockmcferson Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 We're not a million miles off that this season, would you be saying that then? My thoughts are every team should be given the chance to sell 50% of the allocation. If, come a week til the big day, any sections of Hampden they haven't sold should be siphoned off to the opponent. I think Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs, Rangers and Celtic all have the ability to sell out 50% of Hampden.....no other team does. None of the other teams comes anywhere near these teams in terms of crowds. But to answer your question, I think the general principle of allocating seats disproportionally to teams with large season ticket holder bases isn't outrageous. If you turn up week after week to see your team then you shouldn't lose your seat because some Motherwell 'fan' decides they will attend their first game for a decade. Link to comment
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