Viva La Revolution

[Guest]

For me at least, the only revolution that is found in Aberdeen, is the bar on Belmont Street. Why is it, that every manager that ends up taking over the reigns, has teh tag, 'revolution', plastered against his tenure when it comes to overhauling the current crop of under-achievers?

 

Even AFC publically front this mythical, pheonix-like rise, as an opportunity to market themselves and sell tickets.

 

Are we all to be fooled, once again (for the umpteenth time) that we are in the process of revolutionising the squad? McGhee was said to be been master of his 'Reds Revolution'. That worked out well for us didn't it?!? Now Brown has taken over, and is having to 'revolutionise' his 'revolution'!!

 

A revolution would be something quite ground breaking for AFC. A change of Chairman for instance, or a huge injection of cash. A move to a new stadium could also, justifiably, be included in such a statement.

 

But canning some duds and replacing with players that are not much better, indeed, unproven at best, is hardly cause of eternal hope and optimism.

 

So please, AFC, P&J, EE.... drop this nonsense now. Until we see something tangable, be honest about our situation. That in itself would be a revelation!!

[tup]

My link

 

Particularly love this bit:

 

"Indeed, frequent use of more than five exclamation marks often indicates that it is only a matter of time before the person in question sinks into a state of criminal insanity. Soon scrawled notes appear at the scenes of highly unpleasant crimes with things like "Aahahahahahaha!!!!!" written on them. At that stage, there is almost no hope left for the person in question"

 

 

Sorry tiny min :thumbs:

 

I agree with you, but believe you might be pleasantly surprised later in the year.

[Stoney]

My optimism for next season drained when i read we have offered langfailed a new deal.

[tup]

My optimism for next season drained when i read we have offered langfailed a new deal.

 

This implies that at some stage you did have at least a small amount of optimism.

 

Dinna tell lies.

[Guest]

I agree with you, but believe you might be pleasantly surprised later in the year.

 

So you keep saying, and tbh, I would have to take that particular prophesy with a large pinch of salt. At what stage will you openly admit that you have been fed a crock of sh*t? When we have a back four of Foster, Considine, McArdle and some English Div 2 wannabe... all backed up with Langfield in goal?

[tup]

So you keep saying, and tbh, I would have to take that particular prophesy with a large pinch of salt. At what stage will you openly admit that you have been fed a crock of sh*t? When we have a back four of Foster, Considine, McArdle and some English Div 2 wannabe... all backed up with Langfield in goal?

 

Hold on a second, I've not been 'fed' anything, I 'know', big difference.

[StandFree1982]

Sticking with Langfield would be a grave error of judgement by Brown, as it had been by McGhee and fat b*stard, who was the f**king idiot who took him here.

 

The fact he's still here seven years later is an embarrassment to AFC and an indictment on Leighton and Miller.

Same could be said about Mackie. The fact he has been here long enough to "earn" himself a testimonial says a lot about the standards we've been setting ourselves in the last 10-15 years! I'm just glad Young was kicked out before we made the same mistake with him.

 

Fingers crossed we'll never see Diamond getting anywhere near 10 years.

[K-9]

It is more in complete hope that it works out this summer and expectation for most fans.

 

Will just have to wait and see if Brown and co can provide what many would say would be a miracle with what has been put in front of him.

[StandFree1982]

It is more in complete hope that it works out this summer and expectation for most fans.

 

Will just have to wait and see if Brown and co can provide what many would say would be a miracle with what has been put in front of him.

It really couldn't get much worse. No other team in the SPL looks as bad in defence as we do. We SURELY can't make that any worse than it already is with Diamond n co's circus act for us last few seasons!

[Jazzer_Bett]

I agree with you, but believe you might be pleasantly surprised later in the year.

 

The titiliation continues Tup

[onlyjim]

For me at least, the only revolution that is found in Aberdeen, is the bar on Belmont Street. Why is it, that every manager that ends up taking over the reigns, has teh tag, 'revolution', plastered against his tenure when it comes to overhauling the current crop of under-achievers?

 

Even AFC publically front this mythical, pheonix-like rise, as an opportunity to market themselves and sell tickets.

 

Are we all to be fooled, once again (for the umpteenth time) that we are in the process of revolutionising the squad? McGhee was said to be been master of his 'Reds Revolution'. That worked out well for us didn't it?!? Now Brown has taken over, and is having to 'revolutionise' his 'revolution'!!

 

A revolution would be something quite ground breaking for AFC. A change of Chairman for instance, or a huge injection of cash. A move to a new stadium could also, justifiably, be included in such a statement.

 

But canning some duds and replacing with players that are not much better, indeed, unproven at best, is hardly cause of eternal hope and optimism.

 

So please, AFC, P&J, EE.... drop this nonsense now. Until we see something tangable, be honest about our situation. That in itself would be a revelation!!

 

Pa Broon has only just arrived.

For f**k sake give him a chance.

Or do you just like to look on the dark side all the time.

Moan Moan f**kin' Moan.

Can't someone start a thread without constantly bashing AFC.

Even Sir Alex has faith in the man to lift the club back to where it should be.

Have faith and stop yer moanin'

[tup]

Everyone seems to have quickly forgotten how grim things were under McGhee.

 

Brown has done an excellent job so far, with useless players, who don't give a toss about Aberdeen FC.

 

Wait until he gets his own team before casting judgement, the couch potato generation want immediate gratification.

 

As for the fabled McGhee revolution, who in their right mind would have given him money to spend, given the dross he signed in his time here?

[Stoney]

Mcghee made very good signings. Brown has made 2 out of 5?

[StandFree1982]

Mcghee made very good signings. Brown has made 2 out of 5?

He also signed Grassi and Ifil! While ensuring we had no full backs....

[onlyjim]

some of you should read this article and add a little hope to your life.

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/2240846

[tup]

100% agree with Denis Law, 100% disagree with the relentlessly negative Stoney.

[GK55]

It worries me that people are already getting on Browns back after 1/4 of a season!

 

I have every faith he will bring us back up that league where we belong.

[tup]

I wouldna worry too much, it's the usual subjects, torn faced is their default mode, if they're nae moaning, they're nae happy, dinna pay too much attention to it is my philosophy.

 

Brown will indeed get us back to where we belong, he's got to finish this season with someone else's team, so what?

[Guest]

I didn't start this thread as an anti-Brown one, so don't throw that at me. However, in terms of comparing apples with apples, we are now 10th in comparison to 12th when Brown took over. The last dozen games have been rank poor. It is supposed to be the hallmark of a good manager, that can get the best from a bad bunch. Sure, it started off promising, but has turned to crap of late.

 

As for your inside info Tup... I have as much belief in that as I do with the Chairman of our club. When (not if in my opinion) Maguire buggers off, that in itself will be a sign that we have very little money to spend. If the opposite were the case, then surely AFC would provide sufficient funds to keep a 'promising' young talent on our books, no? Same should be applied to Aluko and Smith.

 

Basically, what I am advocating, is that this is as close to a revolution as a few tree huggers turning up outside the gates of Union Terrace Gardens, to demonstrate against its transition from old to new.

 

A revolution is a word that should be coupled with such historical events as uprisings against Governments, as seen in the spring rising of North Africa. Not to describe how one manager juggles to balance losing the likes of Diamond and Young with equally unsubstantial amounts of money at his disposal.

 

Let us dream of a day when we really do have a revolution on our hands..... a day when thousands of Dandies gather to see the League flag being raised above our stadium, or a day when we drive a failure of a manager Chairman from office. That, my fellow dons, is a revolution.

 

edit - should have been Chairman, not manager

[Stoney]

I wouldna worry too much, it's the usual subjects, torn faced is their default mode, if they're nae moaning, they're nae happy, dinna pay too much attention to it is my philosophy.

 

Brown will indeed get us back to where we belong, he's got to finish this season with someone else's team, so what?

 

 

Coming from you im taking that as an insult.

[StandFree1982]

I didn't start this thread as an anti-Brown one, so don't throw that at me. However, in terms of comparing apples with apples, we are now 10th in comparison to 12th when Brown took over. The last dozen games have been rank poor. It is supposed to be the hallmark of a good manager, that can get the best from a bad bunch. Sure, it started off promising, but has turned to crap of late.

 

As for your inside info Tup... I have as much belief in that as I do with the Chairman of our club. When (not if in my opinion) Maguire buggers off, that in itself will be a sign that we have very little money to spend. If the opposite were the case, then surely AFC would provide sufficient funds to keep a 'promising' young talent on our books, no? Same should be applied to Aluko and Smith.

 

Basically, what I am advocating, is that this is as close to a revolution as a few tree huggers turning up outside the gates of Union Terrace Gardens, to demonstrate against it's it's transition from old to new.

 

A revolution is a word that should be coupled with such historical events as uprisings against Governments, as seen in the spring rising of North Africa. Not to describe how one mabager juggles to balance losing the likes of Diamond and Young with equally unsubstantial amounts of money at his disposal.

 

Let us dream of a day when we really do have a revolution on our hands..... a day when thousands of Dandies gather to see the League flag being raised above our stadium, or a day when we drive a failure of a manager from office. That, my fellow dons, is a revolution.

To give Brown some credit, we've had unbelievable bad luck with injuries this season! We've been without Folly, Fyvie and Hartley for a lot of the time. He's had to put up with Diamond, Langfield and Young etc in our starting 11 because we don't have anyone else.

[Stoney]

That excuse didnt wash with Mcghee so why move the goal posts?

[tup]

Coming from you im taking that as an insult.

 

You need to think positive, and good things will happen.

 

As for tinyweelad, I'm not making any proclamations, nor are Aberdeen FC, which is good.

 

Saying you have money to spend is akin to throwing half of it into the wind immediately in the modern game. Keeping it under wraps is sensible.

 

I don't know about Maguire and Aluko having all but left as you seem to be suggesting, there's a fair chance both will stay.

 

The last few games are meaningless for a number of reasons:

 

1. We had a big cup game coming up and players were rested in anticipation of that.

2. We have nothing to play for.

3. We have players in the team who everyone knows will not be here next season. This hardly guarantees maximum effort.

 

So to criticise Brown for that is counter-intuitive. It's only natural.

[tup]

That excuse didnt wash with Mcghee so why move the goal posts?

 

McGhee's record was atrocious.

 

Brown's is not.

[StandFree1982]

That excuse didnt wash with Mcghee so why move the goal posts?

The difference between the two is that Brown signed players we needed for positions, and then we got hordes of injuries. McGhee didn't bother signing players for positions that we desperately needed cover for, and we ended up losing even more players to injury and playing people like Young and Mackie in defence.

[tup]

The difference between the two is that Brown signed players we needed for positions, and then we got hordes of injuries. McGhee didn't bother signing players for positions that we desperately needed cover for, and we ended up losing even more players to injury and playing people like Young and Mackie in defence.

 

Added to that, several were stopgap signings like McNamee, there to plug a hole but not long term viable signings.

 

Give the man a chance.

[Stoney]

Browns is fairly bad

 

No league wins in 8 games, Mcghees winless run was only 6 games, So pretty much no differance.

 

Played 19 in the league and only won 6 of those, Im not sure what positives can come from that exactly.

[tup]

Browns is fairly bad

 

No league wins in 8 games, Mcghees winless run was only 6 games, So pretty much no differance.

 

Played 19 in the league and only won 6 of those, Im not sure what positives can come from that exactly.

 

Bare statistics = meaningless.

 

I've already explained to you the background to us having tailed off in recent games.

 

Nobody is turning up for them, that tells you everything you need to know, I couldna care less whether we win or lose our remaining games this season, I'd play as many young players as possible in anticipation of next season.

 

You are the embodiment of the term 'knee-jerk' min, you seem determined to seek out negativity where none exists.

[Guest]

Tup - to say the game to come are meaningless, would be correct. But every game up to now, was of worth. We had a reasonable chance to get in the top 6 (albeit a slim one) but it was still there to play for. As was a chance to go to a final against in a winnable game against Motheerwell.

 

Anyway, that is not my beef - I question the value of placing such a word, on a constant basis - on the manner in which we try and form some resurgence for the season to come. Tinkering with a failing club, or a revolution? Only time will tell if it turns out to be one of the other, but at this moment, it has all the hallmarks of another season of much the same. If Tup's insight proves correct, I'll be the first to congratulate him on his magnificent exclusive and eat humble pie. History is heaped on my side, to redress the balance though. Sh*te in - sh*te out.

[tup]

The two Celtic semi-finals told us everything we need to know about these players, not all of them, but most.

 

They are simply nowhere near good enough for the Dons.