Sheeptastic Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Name me any other SPL team who have signed an amateur player from Spain? It is very simple, Continue in this vain of putting absolute sh*te on the park, and we will be in Administration within 5 years, with an average gate of 5000! Bet all you happy clappers will be real happy then! Any other business who invests so little on there product would of been closed down years ago.Pretty sure Sandaza was of a similar level, maybe not quite amateur but just shows you can find decent players with a bit of potential anywhere. I'm actually relieved Brown is scouring the globe in order to find players. If this guy isn't good enough after a trial, then we move on. It's not that much of an outrage. Link to comment
villaforrent Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Pretty sure Sandaza was of a similar level, maybe not quite amateur but just shows you can find decent players with a bit of potential anywhere. I'm actually relieved Brown is scouring the globe in order to find players. If this guy isn't good enough after a trial, then we move on. It's not that much of an outrage.I wouldn't mind so much if this was a player one of our scouts had spotted, and that we had been monitoring for a while. But Browns mate recommended him FFS! We must be aiming higher than this, we have just wiped about 10 players off the wage bill and so far all we have brought in is some defender nobody had heard of! We need a new keeper, why does Brown always say he is looking for a back up keeper? Surely he should be looking for the best keeeper he can get, and if he's better than Jamie, so be it. Honestly, Formartine Utd show far greater ambition than us! Brown seems to think success is getting into top 6! We had a manager that could do that every season and we sacked him! This year more than any year I can remember, requires major investment on the park, fans are fed up watching so called pro players unable to run past a man, pass a ball more than 3 yards and failure to muster 1 shot on goal in 3 games!! ( ah but hold on, we are told we have Mackie coming back, so the goals will soon start flooding in) It is not just about losing, there is no entertainment at pittodrie anymore. Brown also says success would be getting to a semi final again next season, really? You may as well get knocked out in the first round, if your happy to get knocked out in the semi! Link to comment
Mr Brightside Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I wouldn't mind so much if this was a player one of our scouts had spotted, and that we had been monitoring for a while. But Browns mate recommended him FFS! Depends who the mate is, could be a lad from the pub, or on the other hand it could be someone in football with a good eye for a player. I don't care where they come from but if they help improve our team I will be delighted Link to comment
Jack_Glass Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I posted about the Spanish guy being on trial via Twitter and got the same message sent to me by someone called SoyNunez, I wonder if it's him or a relation. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Name me any other SPL team who have signed an amateur player from Spain? It is very simple, Continue in this vain of putting absolute sh*te on the park, and we will be in Administration within 5 years, with an average gate of 5000! Bet all you happy clappers will be real happy then! Any other business who invests so little on there product would of been closed down years ago. wrong as usual. I'm far from a happy clapper. We invested heavily on the park years ago and we are now in the sh*t mess you see us in now. If I felt as negative as you towards anything in life I'd just give it up. Link to comment
brownie Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I've done a wee bit of snooping and.............. This boy comes from a club that charges 5euro to watch yet we're expected to pay Link to comment
Liam Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 we havent signed the guy. Were only taking a look at him. Would you rather we didnt out of ignorance and miss out on a player? some people really need to wise up. We are in the position where we need to look at every player we can. Link to comment
brownie Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 we havent signed the guy. Were only taking a look at him. Would you rather we didnt out of ignorance and miss out on a player? some people really need to wise up. We are in the position where we need to look at every player we can. People on here have claimed Stevie Smith was crap and Richard Foster is a poor player who isnt good enough for us. You have to wonder what sort of reality these people live in. Link to comment
minijc Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 People on here have claimed Stevie Smith was crap and Richard Foster is a poor player who isnt good enough for us. You have to wonder what sort of reality these people live in.That's only because they have been connected with the huns, alot of small minded people in our support. Link to comment
Oklahoma 1903 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Not seen anything remarkable from him so far, but then seen no reason to distrust him so far either. It's a big ask and we do need to get a shift on given the season is less than six weeks away and we'll need to gel etc. No blind faith this season from me, it's high time an Aberdeen manager proved himself worthy of time and patience from the fans. Brown just doesn't inspire me at all. I'm old enough to remember how boring a manager he is and his undying loyalty to aging players.He has done absolutely nothing of note in Club football.He is imo no Messiah.I hope I'm wrong time will tell. Link to comment
Donmacca Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Sorry I know it's maybe a little far fetched but look at Chris smalling, played 11 amateur games for Maidstone, then went to fulham and played 13 games, all of a sudden he's at united and considered a star of the future. Let's at least give this Spanish lad a trial and see if he has anything on offer. Some folk on here ask why we don't scout the highland league, this guy plays at around that level so let see what he can do taking a step up and not write him off straight away. Link to comment
brownie Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 That's only because they have been connected with the huns, alot of small minded people in our support. Largely the reason I suppose but I do think some of support would whinge about Messi if he signed for the Dons. Link to comment
HH_is_back Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Sorry I know it's maybe a little far fetched but look at Chris smalling, played 11 amateur games for Maidstone, then went to fulham and played 13 games, all of a sudden he's at united and considered a star of the future. Let's at least give this Spanish lad a trial and see if he has anything on offer. Some folk on here ask why we don't scout the highland league, this guy plays at around that level so let see what he can do taking a step up and not write him off straight away. Look at the wonderfully gifted Paul Mason. What would we do for a player of that ability now. Link to comment
goteborg83 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 lets just give him a chance, im confident CB has what it takes to pick out a good signing. even though he did sign Casagolda for motherwell Link to comment
Dandyjam Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 true but why is it ok now, yet its one of the main sticks JC is hit with? Utter pish and you know it, yet again just wanting to try and bum up JC again. Brown has taken the guy in to have a look at him. He's not signed him and throwing him in to the first team like JC did. Bripod touched on this also, if we actually sign him and he looks out of his depth like Bus, Daal, Blaha etc then is the time to start getting knickers in a twist and criticising Brown but until then there's nothing to say about it except let's see what happens. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 See, you're STILL missing the point. The point is that Calderwood was forced to shop in the amateurs market. That's what his budget dictated, otherwise he'd have been exclusively signing SPL or English players hither and yon. Brown is ALSO forced to look at the amateur market, because that's what his budget dictates, otherwise he'd be looking at the SPL or Englsh players. And if he's looking at the very same markets as Calderwood then he's clearly, as evidenced by his looking at that market, presumably willing to sign the same level of player. If he weren't then he wouldn't be looking at the amateur market. Do you actually think that Calderwood signed guys like Buss and Dall (sp) because he had the option or budget to sign players soley from the SPL? These amateurs are make-weights. Shirt-fillers. Calderwood was forced to look at them and sign them, Brown is being forced to look at them. And when the money runs out buying one or two pros, in the way it did with Calderwood, where do you think the hopeless shirt-fillers are going to come from? Loans, promoted kids, freebies and amateurs. No point people bitching about Calderwood and giving Brown a free ride. He's looking at amateurs. If he weren't willing to sign them he wouldn't be looking. The step up from 1st Division to SPL usually proves too much even for pros. I can't even figure what kind of a difference there will be for your average amateur stepping up to the SPL. Pretty big, I'd imagine. Link to comment
Dandyjam Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Not pissing the point at all - JC was looking at and signing amateur players when he still had a far bigger budget than Brown has now. Blaha signed in 04-05 season, the same time we were spending money on the likes of Nicholson and Lovell. JC chose to go down this road and wasn't forced to go down it. He may have unearthed a gem but he didn't because he wasn't that particularly good at spotting talent, well ok he spotted Jaap Stam at a young age. Daal signed in 2006, at a time we were still spending big on wages. Whilst a see the point being made, Brown's hand (and McGhee's and JC's in last season I suppose) is being forced because of the measly budget being given now by the board and although Brown's track record isn't great at unearthing unknown foreigners (Casagolda and Charalambous last season for example) we need to see how it goes and hope it's not another Grassi. Link to comment
Liam Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 No point people bitching about Calderwood You should of just stopped after that. Why are we still going on about Calderwood? Whether you loved him or hated him, he is long gone from our football club, and will not make a return in my eyes. Debating what he did and didnt do really is pointless, as is comparing Calderwood signing dross like Dave Bus, to Brown saying he will take a look at some young kid. The difference between signing a player and playing him from having a look is massive. Im sure (like Calderwood would have been at the time), Brown will only sign the kid if he thinks he is good enough. Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Let's not forget that there's not many players banging on the door to come and play for us.... that and the usual suspects will probably get a better deal from the rest of the SPL or English Div 1 & 2 teams... Seems that we're forced to look at places that no one else is going... At the end of the day CB will be judged on results, as his predecessors were... We clearly have to operate differently from the other muppets otherwise we'll have the rug pulled from under us... Although I do wish that we were getting a bundle of loan players from better quality teams... Link to comment
K-9 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 All we are doing is having a look. If he is sh*t he will go. If we have found a gem then we will try and sign. Nothing more!! Link to comment
Ke1t Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 You should of just stopped after that. Why are we still going on about Calderwood? Because he's our least bad manager in recent years, and a perfect benchmark by which to gauge successive managers' failure or lack thereof. The difference between signing a player and playing him from having a look is massive. Im sure (like Calderwood would have been at the time), Brown will only sign the kid if he thinks he is good enough. That's not really a difference though, is it? Calderwood only signed his amateurs because he thought they were good enough or because that's all he could afford. Going to be exactly the same with Brown... he'll only sign an amateur if he believes that amateur is good enough or all he can afford. Calderwood came in and turned around a team that was close to relegation, making them top 6, and European candidates. Brown came in and... saved us from relegation, no more. Brown's first full season starts in a couple of months.... I'll be extremely interested to see if he can do as well as Calderwood with THIS group of relegation candidates. My suspicion is that he won't get the same kind of budget as was given Calderwood, and so he won't do anywhere near as well as Calderwood. That's the benchmark, that's why we still talk about Calderwood. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Because he's our least bad manager in recent years, and a perfect benchmark by which to gauge successive managers' failure or lack thereof. That's not really a difference though, is it? Calderwood only signed his amateurs because he thought they were good enough or because that's all he could afford. Going to be exactly the same with Brown... he'll only sign an amateur if he believes that amateur is good enough or all he can afford. Calderwood came in and turned around a team that was close to relegation, making them top 6, and European candidates. Brown came in and... saved us from relegation, no more. Brown's first full season starts in a couple of months.... I'll be extremely interested to see if he can do as well as Calderwood with THIS group of relegation candidates. My suspicion is that he won't get the same kind of budget as was given Calderwood, and so he won't do anywhere near as well as Calderwood. That's the benchmark, that's why we still talk about Calderwood. There may be a big difference. There may not be. That seems to be the point you are ignoring Ke1t. This guy may turn out to be a more than capable player, perhaps available at a relatively cheap price compared to the equivalent talent from England/Scotland. Maybe he comes highly recommended to Brown by someone worth trusting their opinion on a player. Maybe Brown believes that if this guy turns out to be good enough, it means further pennies could be spent elsewhere on the team. I certainly would prefer our manager to be searching high and low for building a squad this summer, nae just focussing on the UK market with over-inflated wages. I will leave the judging till they start playing... Link to comment
nellie_boy Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 A few years back I played in a team full of semi-pro's. We played the 2nd/youth team of a club in the same level as this guy. We got murdered 5-0, hardly got a kick, and they never broke sweat. I'm not overly hopeful about this guy being up to scratch but there is no doubting there are guys around that level who could step up a bit and be decent inclusions to an SPL squad Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Look at the wonderfully gifted Paul Mason. What would we do for a player of that ability now. Whats that got to do with anything? We paid Link to comment
Site Sponsor RTYD Posted June 13, 2011 Site Sponsor Share Posted June 13, 2011 true but why is it ok now, yet its one of the main sticks JC is hit with? Because JC's never worked. In hindsight if Broon's don't work he will also be criticised. Get over JC for foxache! Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 In hindsight if Broon's don't work he will also be criticised. Link to comment
Donmacca Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Whats that got to do with anything? We paid Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Yeah we paid that for him but is point is he was playing pub football in holland while working over there and that's how FC Groningen found him No, I still don't see the relevance in what signing a proven player from the top league in Holland for quarter of a million pounds has to do with taking a Spanish amature on trial. Probably more similarities with the signings of Davide Grassi, Dave Bus, etc, not Paul Mason. Link to comment
Donmacca Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 No, I still don't see the relevance in what signing a proven player from the top league in Holland for quarter of a million pounds has to do with taking a Spanish amature on trial. Probably more similarities with the signings of Davide Grassi, Dave Bus, etc, not Paul Mason. Yeah he was a proven player when he came to us. Think he was making the point as I was about smalling that he's come from playing amateur at one point in his career too playing professionally. How this ties in to this lad is he could be one that slipped through the net so a trail will find out if he's any good Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The average Bundesliga ticket is Link to comment
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