Chris Gavin

[Guest]

I know Chris quite well and a personable chap he is.

 

But for the good of Aberdeen fans, is it not time he relinquished his position? Quite obviously, his inherited post of 'fans rep' has been seen by the majority, as a failure. I think by standing down, this would then open up the potential to re-engage with the club in an attempt to bridge the gap between them and us.

 

Chris' remit is at this present time, is certainly not what it was 6/7 years ago or however long ago it was he was installed in that role. He has been looking at setting up a past players society or something like that, along with trying to ensure that the new stadium (if and when it ever arrives) has a supporters bar. All noble gestures, but hardly what I would say is what we looked to achieve by putting a fan on the Board of Directors.

 

I do not believe he even speaks to Milne much in any case, and reports to Duncan Fraser, Dave McDermid, Malcolm Panton sort of level.

 

Chris... do the honourable thing mate and step aside. Let us refocus our attention on what we want from a fans rep on the inside. Certainly not a puppet of the current regime.

[vanderark14]

I vote Kelt

[Ke1t]

I know Chris quite well and a personable chap he is.

 

But for the good of Aberdeen fans, is it not time he relinquished his position? Quite obviously, his inherited post of 'fans rep' has been seen by the majority, as a failure. I think by standing down, this would then open up the potential to re-engage with the club in an attempt to bridge the gap between them and us.

 

Chris' remit is at this present time, is certainly not what it was 6/7 years ago or however long ago it was he was installed in that role. He has been looking at setting up a past players society or something like that, along with trying to ensure that the new stadium (if and when it ever arrives) has a supporters bar. All noble gestures, but hardly what I would say is what we looked to achieve by putting a fan on the Board of Directors.

 

I do not believe he even speaks to Milne much in any case, and reports to Duncan Fraser, Dave McDermid, Malcolm Panton sort of level.

 

Chris... do the honourable thing mate and step aside. Let us refocus our attention on what we want from a fans rep on the inside. Certainly not a puppet of the current regime.

 

Can't see much point in a 'Fans' Rep' when the club has no interest in what the fans have to say for themselves.

 

Wasn't he the editor of a fanzine or something?

[Ke1t]

I vote Kelt

 

I'd be escorted off the premises after 5 minutes.

[zander]

Need a cat amongst the pigeons, unfortunately AFC's board do not want anything that doesn't tow the party line.

[RUL]

Its a pointless role in the current climate. Fans rep "Milne must go" Board "He won't go".....end of fans rep

[dj_bollocks]

I'd bet it would be more 90 seconds...

[Big Man]

I vote Kelt

 

I second Kelt and his trusty mossberg 500.

 

That'd put a few cats amongst the pigeons.

 

[Foster14]

Surely any fan rep should be getting a column in one of the local rags, maybe not an indepth article, but some form of communication with the common fan and allowing them a method of communicating with him. By in large, the majority of Aberdeen fans would not realise that there is a fan representative.

[RUL]

Thought the club had a policy of not speaking to the local rag?

[granite sheep]

Then how come WM has a weekly column in the paper, and Allan indulges in non stop licking of Milne's hoop?

[K-9]

Its a pointless role in the current climate. Fans rep "Milne must go" Board "He won't go".....end of fans rep

Exactly - but no wage taken. Would anyone actually notice if he wasn't there though?

[granite sheep]

Since when did the board give a flying toss about the fans in the first place. Figurehead appointment, made to appease the fans years ago, who've all long since forgotten that we actually have a fan's rep on the board, possibly due to the fact we never hear sod all about him. He's fallen a long way since his Red Final days, he was Old Beach Ender if I mind correct.

[Foster14]

Thought the club had a policy of not speaking to the local rag?

 

Surely the point of a fan's representative is to share information and to pass information from the fan to the board. Obviously he will be privy to some information that is not to be shared, but if he doesn't make any effort to convey infomation to fans, then there is no point in his role.

[HH_is_back]

Maybe appoint Mackie and hopefully he wont be as big a failure at that as he is as a player. For some reason some fans still love him maybe an ideal candidate

[sheepiekev]

I know Chris quite well and a personable chap he is.

 

But for the good of Aberdeen fans, is it not time he relinquished his position? Quite obviously, his inherited post of 'fans rep' has been seen by the majority, as a failure. I think by standing down, this would then open up the potential to re-engage with the club in an attempt to bridge the gap between them and us.

 

Chris' remit is at this present time, is certainly not what it was 6/7 years ago or however long ago it was he was installed in that role. He has been looking at setting up a past players society or something like that, along with trying to ensure that the new stadium (if and when it ever arrives) has a supporters bar. All noble gestures, but hardly what I would say is what we looked to achieve by putting a fan on the Board of Directors.

 

I do not believe he even speaks to Milne much in any case, and reports to Duncan Fraser, Dave McDermid, Malcolm Panton sort of level.

 

Chris... do the honourable thing mate and step aside. Let us refocus our attention on what we want from a fans rep on the inside. Certainly not a puppet of the current regime.

 

 

What's the point?

It's a pointless post created to pay lip service to the fans.

He has no say in the running of the club.

[onlyjim]

I know Chris quite well and a personable chap he is.

 

But for the good of Aberdeen fans, is it not time he relinquished his position? Quite obviously, his inherited post of 'fans rep' has been seen by the majority, as a failure. I think by standing down, this would then open up the potential to re-engage with the club in an attempt to bridge the gap between them and us.

 

Chris' remit is at this present time, is certainly not what it was 6/7 years ago or however long ago it was he was installed in that role. He has been looking at setting up a past players society or something like that, along with trying to ensure that the new stadium (if and when it ever arrives) has a supporters bar. All noble gestures, but hardly what I would say is what we looked to achieve by putting a fan on the Board of Directors.

 

I do not believe he even speaks to Milne much in any case, and reports to Duncan Fraser, Dave McDermid, Malcolm Panton sort of level.

 

Chris... do the honourable thing mate and step aside. Let us refocus our attention on what we want from a fans rep on the inside. Certainly not a puppet of the current regime.

 

There has already been a thread about this subject.

I don't believe for a minute that anyone on this forum is as qualified or even able to do what Chris Gavin does.

It's not like you are paying him a wage

without a strong support he has no power and as far as i can see the dons support is staying away.

12+ k fans a week would be able to back a spokesman but sitting outside Pittodrie moanin' plays into the managements hands an leaves Chris " your rep' " with no backing.

Fill the stands if you want a voice.

Pathetic thread.

[Ke1t]

There has already been a thread about this subject.

I don't believe for a minute that anyone on this forum is as qualified or even able to do what Chris Gavin does.

 

 

 

Which is what, exactly?

 

Edit: Also, what are the required qualifications, I should have asked.

[Jocky Balboa]

There has already been a thread about this subject.

I don't believe for a minute that anyone on this forum is as qualified or even able to do what Chris Gavin does.

It's not like you are paying him a wage

without a strong support he has no power and as far as i can see the dons support is staying away.

12+ k fans a week would be able to back a spokesman but sitting outside Pittodrie moanin' plays into the managements hands an leaves Chris " your rep' " with no backing.

Fill the stands if you want a voice.

Pathetic thread.

 

So what you're suggesting is that we should all turn into happy-clapping Lemming-type drones, throwing money into the black hole that is AFC Enterprises, in order to legitimise an ineffectual position on the Board (and any prospective successor to him)?

Take note of the empty stands before you exercise your voice.

Pathetic stance.

[onlyjim]

Which is what, exactly?

 

Edit: Also, what are the required qualifications, I should have asked.

 

read the other thread.

[Ke1t]

read the other thread.

 

link?

[Betty Swallicks]

What's the point?

It's a pointless post created to pay lip service to the fans.

He has no say in the running of the club.

 

 

This^^^^

[Betty Swallicks]

There has already been a thread about this subject.

I don't believe for a minute that anyone on this forum is as qualified or even able to do what Chris Gavin does.It's not like you are paying him a wage

without a strong support he has no power and as far as i can see the dons support is staying away.

12+ k fans a week would be able to back a spokesman but sitting outside Pittodrie moanin' plays into the managements hands an leaves Chris " your rep' " with no backing.

Fill the stands if you want a voice.

Pathetic thread.

 

 

Its happy clapping idiots like this that have allowed our club to be in the state it is for so long.

[barassie_afc]

There has already been a thread about this subject.

I don't believe for a minute that anyone on this forum is as qualified or even able to do what Chris Gavin does.

It's not like you are paying him a wage

without a strong support he has no power and as far as i can see the dons support is staying away.

12+ k fans a week would be able to back a spokesman but sitting outside Pittodrie moanin' plays into the managements hands an leaves Chris " your rep' " with no backing.

Fill the stands if you want a voice.

Pathetic thread.

 

How do you know that ?

[Tommy]

Miller and Fraser are the only board members who are paid.

[barassie_afc]

Miller and Fraser are the only board members who are paid.

 

So Gavin gets no sweetners nor expenses ?

[phoenix]

Pretty sure it would be a soul destroying job and that Chris has probably done the best he could under the circumstances , I think he has other irons in the fire to deal with too

 

See it as a lose- lose situation and one fans rep on board against the money men would be like farting against thunder.

 

I don't like to hear myself being defeatist and it is probably better to have a rep than not but I'm certain that the position is token so far as the directors will allow.

[Tommy]

So Gavin gets no sweetners nor expenses ?

 

 

He'll get into the games for free but he himself has said that there's no financial benefits to

him - he does a lot of work with the AFC Heritage Trust.

I think there's a lot more problems need addressed than Gavin.

[barassie_afc]

He'll get into the games for free but he himself has said that there's no financial benefits to

him - he does a lot of work with the AFC Heritage Trust.

I think there's a lot more problems need addressed than Gavin.

 

agree

[Guest]

Sent Chris Gavin an email asking what he did a while ago and got this back.

 

Yes and his reply is straight out of the puppet regime mould that Milne has quite happily plied over the last dozen years.

 

We asked for a rep on the board to give us a voice and to be heard. I see neither of those things being achieved. He was supposed to be their to represent both shareholders and average supporters. He likes the job, likes being part of the inside mechanisms of AFC and the fact you get much more info than just turning up in your seat at 2:50pm on a Saturday.

 

It's a failed experiment and I hope that the next time the position is up for re-appointment, Chris will do the right thing and stand down - at least to give someone else the chance. If that new person creates to much of an upheaval for Milne's puppet regime, then so be it. But Chris is too mile mannered and knows not to push too far for fear of reprisal.

 

 

There has already been a thread about this subject.

I don't believe for a minute that anyone on this forum is as qualified or even able to do what Chris Gavin does.

It's not like you are paying him a wage

without a strong support he has no power and as far as i can see the dons support is staying away.

12+ k fans a week would be able to back a spokesman but sitting outside Pittodrie moanin' plays into the managements hands an leaves Chris " your rep' " with no backing.

Fill the stands if you want a voice.

Pathetic thread.

 

You are stuck in the past - a relic, a dinosaur. Your views in now way, shape or form, represent what the majority of others think or feel. It's individuals like YOU that hold us back as a united club. You spout the biggest loud of tosh I think I have read on an open forum. Fill the stands if you want a voice - away to sh*te man!

 

He'll get into the games for free but he himself has said that there's no financial benefits to

him - he does a lot of work with the AFC Heritage Trust.

I think there's a lot more problems need addressed than Gavin.

 

Yes, there are - but does this mean we attack the bigger issues and forget about the smaller, more winnable ones with instant gains?

 

Chris has now got to the stage where the position is a back scratcher for him... he has it cushy... gets all the inside info on matters, doesn't receive flak back if he toes the party line. His reply above just proves that... could have been Fraser, Miller, Milne, Wyness, a number of AFC puppets.

 

We are totally diluting the benefits of our association with AFC by having Chris there. Let us remove this role and start to think how we can re-engage with the club. Chris does nothing that could not be done by a paid member of staff at AFC. The tag, 'fans rep' is mispresenting our belief in what he is there to achieve. His scope of work should be defined by US, not by himself or the club.