Manliness

[Bluto10]

eh?

 

how?

 

youre nae exactly john wayne are you?

[Bluto10]

I believe thats the whole point in this discussion?

 

to see if i actually am whats "manly" now as opposed to stereotypes such as JW and CE

 

no. you are definitley not a manly modern man.

 

i know this for a fact, cause you wear vests.

 

old cowboys and john mclaine wore vests but that was in the old days.

vests are not manly now.

they tend to be worns by gays.

and gays arent manly.

[Bluto10]

erm, Tony Soprano wears vests?

 

and again, you're forgetting you dont speak for everyone...this is what the discussion forums all about

 

surely someone openly admitting if another guys attractive, or feeling comfortable wearing something others would find "gay", is TRUE manliness?

 

essentially, it all boils down to self confidence and theres nothing more unattractive than jealousy

 

 

couldnt agree more millerts - jealousy is for the weak.

 

tony s, you say? look what happened to him.

 

and that was 10 years ago. the old days.

[Monkey]

Kelt previously provided a "what can you do check list" that might be appropriate in determining manliness.

 

Could you;

 

Build a fire

Build a temporary or permanent shelter

Hunt

Fish

Identify edible food

Fight a bear and live

Build a signal fire recognised as the international sign for 'Help' (which isn't just a flaming bonfire a'la Castaway)

Manufacture water in a desert

Survive in subzero temperatures

Navigate your way by land or sea to a populated area

skin an animal properly

 

All of those must figure in an assessment, mustn't they?

[Bluto10]

dont tell me, im only on season 2!

 

so you now agree ie got a manly point, then?

 

you'll love it.

 

wait till the episode when he gets the guy to bite the toilet bowl.

that was where his manliness peaked.

[360]

you'll love it.

 

wait till the episode when he gets the guy to bite the toilet bowl.

that was where his manliness peaked.

 

I'm three episodes from the end, and have yet to see that yet. (I think).

 

Look forward to it.

[Bluto10]

if you havent evolved enough, youre not a real man

 

i agree.

 

lets resign neanderthanls like tup to the stone age.

[Bluto10]

I'm three episodes from the end, and have yet to see that yet. (I think).

 

Look forward to it.

 

 

you'll have seen it before.

happens all the time on a night out in boro.

[360]

you'll have seen it before.

happens all the time on a night out in boro.

 

3:30 in the morning when The Empire closes, cracked skulls along the curb are a common sight.

 

I blame American History X.

[Monkey]

well, no

 

simple reason being - we dont NEED to do that anymore

 

if you havent evolved enough, youre not a real man

 

Manliness by it's very definition is having qualities traditionally attributed to a man and what can be more traditional than the ability to clothe, feed, heat and house yourself without reliance on others and therefore this must, I would argue, be significant when discussing manliness.

 

Are there not a lot of items on that list that have a bigger bearing on manliness than the confidence to wear clothing that has become associated with one section of society whilst not being a part of that section, a la wearing a vest?

[Bluto10]

its true though

 

 

exactly.

 

what use is sabre-toothed tiger hunting skills to a social worker?

[Bluto10]

I blame American History X.

 

ouch!

[Bluto10]

not in my opinion, no!

 

but your opinion doesnt count cause your not a real man.

 

ergo, vests are for poofs.

[looksgoodinred]

as for manly?

 

the ability to decry those attributes thought to "make someone manly".

 

im not saying guys like Beckham are the epitome of "man", hes too far the other way

 

however clint eastwood types are in the past

 

nowadays...think:

 

Sam Worthington, or easily...me

 

Sam Worthington. :thumbs:

[360]

Dr. Dre is the manliest man in the history of man, man.

[looksgoodinred]

speculation and rumour....

 

just like Sam wearing a vest.

[looksgoodinred]

hell yes! but then i argued yesterday that clothes don't make a man either more or less manly.

[Monkey]

MT,

 

You have selected Sam Worthington as your Manliness example, a man who spent years on what he describes as "walkabout" in Australia before becoming a bricklayer and who once sold all his possessions and lived out of his car.

I think we can assume he can tick off a few of Kelt's list no bother, are you saying these skills have not had an influence on his persona and his "manliness"?

[looksgoodinred]

true

 

but does the fact a guy wears what HE wants and not what "other" guys are...not make it more attractive again?

 

it's a confidence (not cockiness) factor. certainly.

[looksgoodinred]

it's a confidence (not cockiness) factor. certainly.

 

in fact, i'd suggest through observation, rumour and pure speculation, that Sam would tick most of the boxes on my list yesterday.

[StandFree1982]

Stephen Hughes, Ozzie comedian, put a good point across about gay men being more manly than straight men because they "Fuck other men". Very funny clip, if someone can put it up on youtube (from comedy roadshow thing...).

[looksgoodinred]

Stephen Hughes, Ozzie comedian, put a good point across about gay men being more manly than straight men because they "Fuck other men". Very funny clip, if someone can put it up on youtube (from comedy roadshow thing...).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9SiDtJLaU

[looksgoodinred]

boom

 

and thats it

 

all comes down to confidence

 

ps...that bum...PM me...

 

sorry.. the bum's talented, but it can't type.

 

and confidence is a big one.. but it's not everything. no boom yet. for me anyway.

[vanderark14]

its the womans opinion of men that have made some of them turn in to such pussies nowadays. real men don't give a fuck what their women think of them..........................

[StandFree1982]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9SiDtJLaU

Aye thats the one (different gig but same content!)

 

go play with your girly tits you fucking fag...

[Bluto10]

its the womans opinion of men that have made some of them turn in to such pussies nowadays. real men don't give a fuck what their women think of them..........................

 

 

exactly.

mummys boy millertime has been reding too many editions of cosmopolitan and marie clair

[Bluto10]

millertime,

 

this is a serious question.

 

you seem a bit obsessed about the famous guy sam.

i presume he is a movie star or soemthing.

 

anyway, if the chance arose would you have a sexual encounter with him?

 

i dont mean are you gay, cause you've said your not.

but would you have sex with him if, in a fantasy world, you met him?

[looksgoodinred]

millertime,

 

this is a serious question.

 

you seem a bit obsessed about the famous guy sam.

i presume he is a movie star or soemthing.

 

anyway, if the chance arose would you have a sexual encounter with him?

 

i dont mean are you gay, cause you've said your not.

but would you have sex with him if, in a fantasy world, you met him?

 

i'd take one for the team, and do it on his behalf.

[vanderark14]

walking to work this morning and I saw a guy who had a hand bag on. This wasn't one of those man bag things, this thing had a thin leather strap and it was really small. You know the type that women use that they can;t fit anything in to.

[Bluto10]

no, because im not gay as ive told you already

 

id probably high 5 him a lot, shake his hand, let cuddles linger...that kinda thing

 

 

yeah but just cause you have sex with him doesnt make you gay, surely?