ebbe Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I will be taking Clark first goalscorer and 2-1 / Clark double / Clark anytime and Aberdeen win. I have no idea why I think Clark will score, just a random gut feeling - and I always go with my gut. There is no odds available on Wills right now, but hopefully they'll be up tomorrow. if that comes in you deserve the keys to the bookie. Link to comment
ebbe Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 After my first win in a few weeks over the weekend, I'm feeling confident in my betting abilities again . nice one, what did you win on? Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Right fucksake boys lets keep this one on track eh? Allow me to introduce the "list of hate" Rangers v Aberdeen: A history of violence Rangers play host to Aberdeen on Saturday in what's now largely regarded as one of the most controversial fixtures in Scotland. The intense rivalry isn't borne out of geographical reasons with the two teams separated by 150 miles of motorway. Alex Ferguson set up a siege mentality as Aberdeen wrested power in the 1980sBut that doesn't stop the opposing fans from creating an intimidating atmosphere second only to the Old Firm clashes. The Dons fans will again make their way down south to Ibrox this weekend in the hope of seeing their club win their first match in Govan since 1991. And now, more than ever, Pittodrie boss Mark McGhee is in need of a record breaking victory in the wake of the catastrophic CIS Cup defeat to First Division Dundee. So exactly why are the two teams such huge rivals? There are several theories as to why the fixtures involving the sides are now so explosive with Aberdeen long accused of "raising their game" for encounters against Rangers. However, a history of flashpoints has only heightened the hype around the fiery fixture. Perhaps one of the most unsavoury incidents took place back in 1980 when Willie Johnston stamped on John McMaster's neck at Ibrox in a Scottish League Cup tie and that still lives long in the memory of many Aberdeen fans. But most commentators point to the fact that Sir Alex Ferguson's all-conquering side broke the Old Firm stranglehold on the Scottish game. Fergie's team enjoyed considerable success both domestically and on the continent making them the team to beat on home turf and subsequently increasing their rivalry with Rangers and Celtic. One of Ferguson's key tactics was to convince his charges everyone in the West of Scotland including the media and the opposing clubs were totally against them. This further stoked the flames of the simmering rivalry between Aberdeen and Rangers. The Ibrox club eventually appointed Graeme Souness as their manager not long before Ferguson left Pittodrie to take over at Manchester United. Souness was determined to make sure Rangers returned to the position of top dogs in Scotland and set his sights on knocking Aberdeen off their perch. The two clubs were involved in another flashpoint when Ian Durrant suffered a career-threatening injury at Pittodrie in 1988 following a challenge with Neil Simpson. Durrant was ruled out of action for nearly three years before making his comeback in 1991. Later that season, Rangers crushed Aberdeen's title dream with a 2-0 final day victory at Ibrox to clinch the Championship. Alex Smith's Dons side only needed a point but froze on the day allowing Mark Hateley to take full advantage as he notched a double to claim glory. The following season Aberdeen did at least regain some revenge when Eoin Jess and Brian Grant scored to secure victory at Ibrox in September 1991, their last win there. Ironically, Fraser Fyvie, who at 16 became the youngest ever player to represent Aberdeen earlier this season, wasn't even born when his club last tasted glory in Govan. The Reds also secured a final day victory over their rivals at Pittodrie in May 2008 to guarantee European football a result which technically ended Rangers' faint title hopes. But the Aberdeen fans are still craving a win in Glasgow to end their long, long wait. On their last visit to Govan in May this year when Jimmy Calderwood was still in charge the Dons produced a spirited display but still couldn't take all three points from the Light Blues on their home turf. That match was also tainted when Gers striker Kyle Lafferty feigned injury following a clash with Aberdeen's Charlie Mulgrew. Mulgrew was subsequently sent off as Lafferty winked at his team-mates before referee Stuart Dougal later reviewed his decision and the Rangers forward was heavily criticised for his behaviour. Lafferty has now recovered from a knee injury and is in line to make his first Rangers appearance of the season against Aberdeen of all teams on Saturday and is expected to go head to head again with Mulgrew. GettyImagesAberdeen denied Rangers the title on the last day of the 2007-8 season And that latest clash is just one in a long line of recent incidents. In 2000 Fernando Ricksen launched a kung fu style kick at Darren Young at Pittodrie claiming the then Dons youngster needed to be straightened out. The Dutch midfielder was later reprimanded following trial by television in another incident which further boiled the bad blood between the clubs. Just a year later, Phil McGuire and Neil McCann were both red carded at Ibrox following an off the ball clash. In the post match interviews Rangers midfielder Tugay claimed an unnamed Aberdeen player made comments about his recently deceased mother. Worse was to follow in 2002 when the Aberdeen and Rangers players had to be taken off the pitch after Robbie Winters was bit by a coin at Pittodrie. That sparked mad scenes as Dons fans raced on to the pitch to confront Rangers supporters resulting in the match being stopped for 20 minutes. There was a further Pittodrie pitch invasion in 2003 when an Aberdeen fan tried to get at Fernando Ricksen before being escorted away by the police. To say there is bad blood between these two teams from separate coasts of Scotland would be to put it mildly. There have been calls from the likes of Keith Wyness, the former Aberdeen chief executive, for the hatred to end. That came in the wake of the appointment of Dons legend Alex McLeish as Rangers manager. But it failed to work and the long running battle has continued to boil over. Can this latest encounter passes without any major incident? Link to comment
Dynamo Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Bring it on you hun bastards! Link to comment
ScottishJohn Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 McArdle at RB. Clark can fuck off. Everytime he steps on the pitch the whole team start to play shite. Link to comment
Stoney Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 My first game since dunfermline, hoping for a repeat performance Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LIq8Ga2mA 0.27secs Link to comment
ebbe Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Could you imagine the poofs of today getting headbutts like that, out for 6 months and traumatized for life. i dread to think fit kind of shape drogba would be in. Link to comment
Rossshepherd Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Gonzo Clark - purely because he has experience in the fixtureMaweneConsidineFoster MackieArnasonOsbourneMilsom FallonVernon. Aberdeens best chance Is to hurt Huns from out wide. Dazzler can do so. Link to comment
ebbe Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Gonzo Clark - purely because he has experience in the fixtureMaweneConsidineFoster MackieArnasonOsbourneMilsom FallonVernon. Aberdeens best chance Is to hurt Huns from out wide. Dazzler can do so. are you for real? surely you are you want mackie and clark to start? Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Just go on the pitch with the 10 of the biggest, most mental c*nts in the support. And Derek Young, he always hated playing against Rangers, he can be captain. We'll get pumped playing football, lets just batter them and hope Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LIq8Ga2mA 0.27secs you know what i love about that clip, is the reaction of the team, and then Mcleish windmilling in looking to take on anyone Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Fuck the rules, this is Aberdeen v Rangers we're talking about. Willie Collum's last visit to Pittodrie; Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Polite request - can we keep this on topic please lads? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Folly can take the RB slot that Jack has unfortunately vacated for now. Please do not play Clark Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Polite request - can we keep this on topic please lads? No probs Rangers & all associated with are cunts http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=topic+bar&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=lii&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1680&bih=916&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=LJsaq7q6chj_kM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Topic_%28chocolate_bar%29.jpg&docid=C9tJwCnv_OmWHM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Topic_%28chocolate_bar%29.jpg&w=800&h=205&ei=54ylTsLTDsOc8gPVsYXRBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=985&vpy=407&dur=2354&hovh=113&hovw=444&tx=182&ty=51&sig=117964386237879064396&page=1&tbnh=59&tbnw=229&start=0&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Chris Clark odds: FIRST - 33/1 LAST - 33/1 ANYTIME - 12/1 2 OR MORE - 40/1 HAT TRICK - 250/1 Chris Clark FIRST goalscorer and Aberdeen to win 80/1 Chris Clark LAST goalscorer and Aberdeen to win 80/1 Chris Clark ANYTIME goalscorer and Aberdeen to win 33/1 The odds for Chris Clark and 2-1 isn't up yet. The odds for Chris Clark scoring anytime (any game) should be a lot higher than 33/1 (even without a win) He's shite Every goal a deflection Link to comment
ebbe Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Chris Clark odds: FIRST - 33/1 LAST - 33/1 ANYTIME - 12/1 2 OR MORE - 40/1 HAT TRICK - 250/1 Chris Clark FIRST goalscorer and Aberdeen to win 80/1 Chris Clark LAST goalscorer and Aberdeen to win 80/1 Chris Clark ANYTIME goalscorer and Aberdeen to win 33/1 The odds for Chris Clark and 2-1 isn't up yet. Link to comment
zerodon47 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 my team for the Huns: GK Gonzalez; RB Foster; CB Arnason; CB Mawene; LB ConsidineRM Pawlett; CM Ozzy; CM Fyvie; LM MilsomCF Fallon; ST; Chalili id personally give Chalili a chance and play him on the shoulder of the last defender, keep him poaching. if he gets bullied too much and is ineffective in the first half then swap for vernon, simple. hope broon disna pussy oot and play a 5 man midfield, lets get at the cunts and go for it. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If Chris Clark plays I'd like him to do a nice challenge on Naismith early doors like he did on Hutton a few years back. It would be a definite red card with Collum but hopefully some cunt (maybe McCulloch like last time) reacts and gets sent off. All in the first 10 minutes and we will have the makings of a good game. Surprised no-one has considered Osbourne at right back. If Pawlett was available, I'd put him right, Fyvie centre, Arnason to sit a bit deeper and use Osbourne at right back. Just for this game... Link to comment
Redstar Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If Chris Clark plays I'd like him to do a nice challenge on Naismith early doors like he did on Hutton a few years back. It would be a definite red card with Collum but hopefully some cunt (maybe McCulloch like last time) reacts and gets sent off. All in the first 10 minutes and we will have the makings of a good game. Surprised no-one has considered Osbourne at right back. If Pawlett was available, I'd put him right, Fyvie centre, Arnason to sit a bit deeper and use Osbourne at right back. Just for this game... It would weaken the midfield...we don't want that...If Folly has a chest infection...get him on antibiotics...intravenously if required...he would be the best option at RB Link to comment
Foster14 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I am not sure it would weaken our midfield any more than our defence would be weakened by the alternatives. Folly at right back after no competitive first team appearance in 10 months?Foster to right back, Considine to left and McArdle in to centreback, weakening both left back and centre back, and breaking up the good partnership developing between Foster and Milsom?Chris Clark coming in anywhere, who struggles to tackle and looks like he is running on quicksand? Osbourne has been a right back in his career, to me it seems the best idea when we need our defence to be strong... Link to comment
Redstar Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I am not sure it would weaken our midfield any more than our defence would be weakened by the alternatives. Folly at right back after no competitive first team appearance in 10 months?Foster to right back, Considine to left and McArdle in to centreback, weakening both left back and centre back, and breaking up the good partnership developing between Foster and Milsom?Chris Clark coming in anywhere, who struggles to tackle and looks like he is running on quicksand? Osbourne has been a right back in his career, to me it seems the best idea when we need our defence to be strong... Yes and no...Arnie and Ozzy are playing well in mid and I wouldn't fu*k with that...It a shuffle somewhere else...maybe best to go with Clark at RB...still think Folly if we can get him fit is an option...but lack of match fitness is a worry...if he's fit I'd take a chance...with Clark on the bench just in case Link to comment
Foster14 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yes and no...Arnie and Ozzy are playing well in mid and I wouldn't fu*k with that...It a shuffle somewhere else...maybe best to go with Clark at RB...still think Folly if we can get him fit is an option...but lack of match fitness is a worry...if he's fit I'd take a chance...with Clark on the bench just in case It is a toughie! I don't think Osbourne and Arnason are playing well because they are together, it is because they are both good footballers. I think my line-up is the best 11 we could start with but I could also see Brown looking at alternatives to taking Osbourne out of midfield. Link to comment
Redstar Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 It is a toughie! I don't think Osbourne and Arnason are playing well because they are together, it is because they are both good footballers. I think my line-up is the best 11 we could start with but I could also see Brown looking at alternatives to taking Osbourne out of midfield. The best to take from the situation is we have found our regular (suspension aside) RB in Ryan Jack...who for a young laddie looks to be a solid SPL player Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'd be willing to try anyone (just anyone) at RB ahead of Clark the now. Even bloody Josh Magennis.Fair enough Clark on bench (for emergencies) but there must be better options for a RB than him the now.How about Clark Robertson, could he do a job? Or even a midfielder like Ryan Fraser, or is there any of the U19's doing a job at RB the now? Clark is too slow, too weak, too fragile & altogether too SHITE to be thrown into the hun game. He'd just get caught for pace straight away & either get an early booking or red card & effectively be out of the game from the start. Worst signing Brown has made since arriving (three bloody years annaw ) Link to comment
Redstar Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'd be willing to try anyone (just anyone) at RB ahead of Clark the now. Even bloody Josh Magennis.Fair enough Clark on bench (for emergencies) but there must be better options for a RB than him the now.How about Clark Robertson, could he do a job? Or even a midfielder like Ryan Fraser, or is there any of the U19's doing a job at RB the now? Clark is too slow, too weak, too fragile & altogether too SHITE to be thrown into the hun game. He'd just get caught for pace straight away & either get an early booking or red card & effectively be out of the game from the start. Worst signing Brown has made since arriving (three bloody years annaw ) As before Folly fu*king owes us............ Strap him down shoot him up with antibiotics to clear his chest...he's the boy to start at RB edit appriciated boys... Link to comment
ebbe Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 As before Folly fu*king owes us............ Strap him down shoot him up with antibiotics to clear his chest...he's the boy to start at RB edit appriciated boys... how the hell does folly "owe us"? he broke his leg/ankle, and was one of our best player before he got injured. Link to comment
Redstar Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 how the hell does folly "owe us"? he broke his leg/ankle, and was one of our best player before he got injured. He's on wages and the legs not broken now is it?....he owes us...you gone soft ebbe...I went out with a girl fromSarajevo a few years ago...she told a tale of a pretty hard existance over there...maybe its changed now...who knows...thought you at least might understand Link to comment
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