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Granite Web Vs. Winter Gairden

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By Big Man,
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Union Terrace Gardens Development  

34 members have voted

  1. 1. Which Design Do You Prefer?

    • Granite Web
      19
    • Winter Gairden
      15

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Why exactly does the council deserve credit for Market St and the square?   The owners and lease holders of the building carried out all the work, the council was more of a hindrance than a help. For

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Its disgusting that a party that got less % of the vote in Aberdeen can then join forces with its arch enemy in politics to force through cancellations of plans just because it hates the businessmen t

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Whether for or against the UTG plans democracy spoke in vote and then new council decide to ignore the people they are supposed to represent. Sad day indeed for Aberdeen and seems now no point in voti

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There is no point in taking it to the government until they find ou if the people who matter want it or not I guess……first things first ye ken

 

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those voting should know the full ins and outs of how this is being funded first,................... then theres the cost of this vote as well.

 

having a referendum for this sort of thing is really stupid in my opinion any way.

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Jazzer_Bett Newbie

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Absolutely, the referendum was a daft idea and all it has served to do is give folk like Shepherd a platform for his nonsensical rants. Hopefully the intelligent citizens of Aberdeen will ignore his propaganda.

 

I think there is a recorded debate on Radio Scotland this week in which the panel will consist of Sir Ian Wood and Shepherd, which should be a bloodbath, well worth a listen. Give Shepherd enough rope, he'll rant on whilst Wood - like him or loathe him - is experienced in this kind of thing.

 

I see Milney has popped up in the P+J today as well, against Jim Milne (no relation presumebly!)who has emerged as a financial backer of Shepherds group.

 

Ironic given that the Balmoral group are a long term sponsor at AFC......

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Dandyesque Mentor

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Absolutely, the referendum was a daft idea and all it has served to do is give folk like Shepherd a platform for his nonsensical rants. Hopefully the intelligent citizens of Aberdeen will ignore his propaganda.

 

I think there is a recorded debate on Radio Scotland this week in which the panel will consist of Sir Ian Wood and Shepherd, which should be a bloodbath, well worth a listen. Give Shepherd enough rope, he'll rant on whilst Wood - like him or loathe him - is experienced in this kind of thing.

 

I see Milney has popped up in the P+J today as well, against Jim Milne (no relation presumebly!)who has emerged as a financial backer of Shepherds group.

 

Ironic given that the Balmoral group are a long term sponsor at AFC......

 

 

All the rich bastards just reminding you who actually runs the city...

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Craig Brown throwing weight in favour of the project today

 

Where you see this?

 

Dandyesque therein lies the problem - Sir Ian Wood is plainly disliked, so thats a personal thing - Shepherd and his crew don't like the multi millionaire oil rich power broker.

 

So much so they are willing to pass up this chance of a lifetime for the city of Aberdeen - it won't come again.

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Where you see this?

 

Dandyesque therein lies the problem - Sir Ian Wood is plainly disliked, so thats a personal thing - Shepherd and his crew don't like the multi millionaire oil rich power broker.

 

So much so they are willing to pass up this chance of a lifetime for the city of Aberdeen - it won't come again.

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Where you see this?

 

Dandyesque therein lies the problem - Sir Ian Wood is plainly disliked, so thats a personal thing - Shepherd and his crew don't like the multi millionaire oil rich power broker.

 

So much so they are willing to pass up this chance of a lifetime for the city of Aberdeen - it won't come again.

 

I'm not so sure.

 

I think when rich people see the chance to invest in something that will make them even richer in the long term, they are generally going to give it a go.

 

Particularly when they realise they don't have to go down normal avenue such as buying the land or putting in all the money themselves....

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jassb Newbie

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I don't care. Can I auction my vote on eBay? Thinking about it, I have 3 votes since my folks are on holiday and told me how they wanted me to vote for them. Never realised they trusted me so much as they have quite strong feelings towards No. But they are old and might not even be around to see the new gardens if it goes ahead anyway.

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Just listened to the debate; not one anti new gardens person spoke with an Aberdeen accent.

 

I'm glad I didn't go, I'd have punched Mike Shepherd, what a wanker. Bet he's a leftie socialist that lives in a big paid for house.

 

You should watch the 5 minute highlights on the bbc. He's banging his fist on the table and frothing at the mouth at one point.

 

Feel like voting yes just to stick one up him.

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Read this today:

An Aberdeen Council official is interviewed in the P&J today about the £70 million loan the Council are being asked to take out to pay for half of Sir Ian Wood's project. It is supposed to be paid back by new business rates created as a direct result od building the scheme. "What happens if the expected business rates do not materialise? "There would be insufficient income to repay the loan capital and interest and the council would need to cover the shortfall."

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I just voted for the city garden via the web. Other than junkies and gays I don't know who esingle using the gardens on the 350 odd days of the year that it isn't sunny?

 

Mind you it used to be a good place to go when I was about 14 and me and my pals needed somewhere quiet to go and down some White Lightning afore heading to the under 18's disco at Zigzags or Eagles. Don't ever rememb seeing Debra fuckin Storr or Mike Shepherd down there then.

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I voted No. Not cos I'm a tree hugger or anything- I believe the gardens DO need done up, and the Union Bridge, even though it's a part of our heritage, needs covered up due to all the suicide attempts in its history. Also the Granite Web design is unremittingly shit, I'd have said yes to the Winter Garden, but going for a set of horrible sterile looking flyovers and lots of trees.........NIT!

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