Stoney Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Not really sure i understand your point, Mcghee said his players would get better...........Is that the only promise he didnt deliver on. Seems a fairly weak thing to get angry about. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Not really sure i understand your point, Mcghee said his players would get better...........Is that the only promise he didnt deliver on. Seems a fairly weak thing to get angry about.What an utter wank of a man, promising that his players will improve eh? total c*nt. Link to comment
Rossshepherd Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 What an utter wank of a man, promising that his players will improve eh? total c*nt.They didn't improve. So he was a total cunt. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 They didn't improve. So he was a total cunt.Whats he going to say "my players will be consistently rubbish and will never improve"? his man management was poor, but saying to the public that his players will improve is hardly a deal breaker. Link to comment
Rossshepherd Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I was upset when they didn't improve and he deserted Paton and let go of Crawford, albeit he was a wank he was never given a real chance, to say players are going to improve raises expectation, I remember him saying "Once we equalised I thought we'd go on and win the game(Sigma). The man's judgement was completely impaired with his high opinion of himself. If he said that his players would of been "consistently rubbish" then he would of been telling the truth and I would of been happier with that. Link to comment
ollie1903 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I was upset when they didn't improve and he deserted Paton and let go of Crawford, albeit he was a wank he was never given a real chance, to say players are going to improve raises expectation, I remember him saying "Once we equalised I thought we'd go on and win the game(Sigma). The man's judgement was completely impaired with his high opinion of himself. If he said that his players would of been "consistently rubbish" then he would of been telling the truth and I would of been happier with that.You were upset when he released Crawford? You want the manager to consistently tell his players they are rubbish? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Saying that your players will improve... not really seeing the problem there. I'm sure he figured they couldn't get any worse. Compare that to the lies AFC has told its fans in the past and that pales into sheer insignificance, even assuming McGhee was somehow being evil and devious, promising the players would improve when he secretly had no intention of coaching those players into better footballers. And I'm kind of skeptical that McGhee genuinely had some sort of malevolent plan to get our hopes up then not deliver just to fuck up our year. To put that into context, next to the repeated, "We're going to get you lads a new stadium (but our entire stadium fund comprises Five Pounds and sixty five pence in cash, a lottery ticket that pays out a tenner, and a handful of magic beans that we got as part of the Chris Maguire to Derby deal), and McGhee's "These players will be different" comment is pretty insignificant. Link to comment
Stoney Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Aye think of the shite calderwood used to come out with.......... Link to comment
Ke1t Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Aye think of the shite calderwood used to come out with.......... "..And Barry, mmmmmmm." Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 He deserves another crack at the management whip...just not with us. well 110 football club chairman, who have replaced thier managers since the OAF was sacked woud appear to disagree with you i'm afraid Link to comment
Redstar Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 keep the calderwood debate to one thread please on topic, I just heard McGhee on talksport. said he was not looking to manage a side in the 4 tier in england but after the interview was very impressed. Apparently they are going to build a new 20k seater ground and the funds are in place for it. they have ambitions to be battling it out for promotion to the championship too. He must have a bit of deja vu and an overwhelming desire to make his excuses when he heard those words... Good luck to him hopefully the Bristol Rovers players aren't a bunch of spoilt pricks as well Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 well 110 football club chairman, who have replaced thier managers since the OAF was sacked woud appear to disagree with you i'm afraidOnly takes one to agree. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I just heard McGhee on talksport. said he was not looking to manage a side in the 4 tier in england but after the interview was very impressed. Apparently they are going to build a new 20k seater ground and the funds are in place for it. they have ambitions to be battling it out for promotion to the championship too. How many times did he say Y'know? Link to comment
OneBeboMaguire Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Chuffed for him, deserves another job. Was really fucked over with us. Link to comment
Stand Free Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Chuffed for him, deserves another job. Was really fucked over with us. Link to comment
fatshaft Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Chuffed for him, deserves another job. Was really fucked over with us.Agree with that, hope he does well down there, like he's done everywhere apart from with us. Link to comment
sheepiekev Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 cunt should've been sacked when he procalimed he wanted the Celtic job on the day he joined Aberdeen.Legend as a player, that will always remainCock end of a manager. Good luck Bristol Rovers.....y'know....it wont be his fault, y'know Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 He's only accepting the Rovers job cos City turned him down for McCinnes Given funds he could do a job though & has experience & a little form down south "you know" In his first interview he said " Im delighted to be at Bristol Rovers but i really wanted the Bristol City job" Link to comment
Dandyjam Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I think he may do a job for them. Always had a decent record in the lower English leagues. Link to comment
a don in oz Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 he's just tripped over his "clownshoes". Unlike many of the rest of you mongs, because he was shit for us doesn't mean I want him to die on the streets. I just don't ever want him near us again but wish him no ongoing illwill. I know that's maybe hard for you to understand but give it a try. Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Agree with that, hope he does well down there, like he's done everywhere apart from with us. Well, that's just it, isn't it? So many heated views on his tenure from members of this Board, yet few (yourself excepted) are willing to address this issue... WHY has he been at least partially successful in every job, EXCEPT for Aberdeen? Yet more proof that the sickness at our Club goes so much deeper than the Manager's chair. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Unlike many of the rest of you mongs, because he was shit for us doesn't mean I want him to die on the streets. I just don't ever want him near us again but wish him no ongoing illwill. I know that's maybe hard for you to understand but give it a try. you have referred to other posters this way on a fair few occasions now and its usually when you have contradicted yourself or someone pulls you up on a point you have made. Link to comment
ferlaytio Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 MM was on Talksport with Keys & Gray yesterday - plenty of "ye knows" and thought he was his usual arrogant self. Listen from 24mins 40 secs in PART 4 (between 1130 and 1200) Dingus Link to comment
Bamber Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Chuffed for him, deserves another job. Was really fucked over with us. Exact opposite i'm afraid found him arrogant and blame shiftting I disagree that he was fucked over by us, he moved from Motherwell to us before his contract was up yet he didnt have any idea of players to go out and sign none whatsoever, he said Well were a better team than us but he had obviously no even bothered his arse researching players for well and decided he was leaving them in the lurch. on the basis he thought well were better than us the bigger budget he had for players he SHOULD have identified for a better team would have fit in quite nicely yet he had no idea whatsoever. The very first game a preseason against Peterhead you could see what he was trying to do and also see that it wouldnt work, we had good players of limited ability the abilities he was asking the players to use were the ones they didnt possess. Was he a good enough coach to recognise this fact and adjust his way of thing to match the tools was he hell. A guy arrives at a carpentry shop and finds only screwdrivers and screws and he wants to work with hammers and nails, do you blame the factory owner who bought all the tools when you find him bashing in nails with a screwdriver or do you as why he doesnt use screws? Mcghee spent his time hitting the nails with screwdrivers and then blaming the workbench cos the chair fell apart but what did it for me more than anything is through out thick and thin I never thought of binning my season ticket and not going to a game He very nearly drove me away from football and i'm one of these saddo's that likes nothing more than sitting watching aberdeen vs ict i a bottom of the league clash in febuary when its -2 and pishing down with a howling gale, the results might not be a million miles away now to what they were but by christ are we a million times better to watch than we were before For almost driving me from the game I couldnt care less if he never worked in football again Link to comment
essex don Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 to me he will remain a playing legend. but would prefer to gloss over his time as manager. wish him all the best though Link to comment
ferlaytio Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Exact opposite i'm afraid found him arrogant and blame shiftting I disagree that he was fucked over by us, he moved from Motherwell to us before his contract was up yet he didnt have any idea of players to go out and sign none whatsoever, he said Well were a better team than us but he had obviously no even bothered his arse researching players for well and decided he was leaving them in the lurch. on the basis he thought well were better than us the bigger budget he had for players he SHOULD have identified for a better team would have fit in quite nicely yet he had no idea whatsoever. The very first game a preseason against Peterhead you could see what he was trying to do and also see that it wouldnt work, we had good players of limited ability the abilities he was asking the players to use were the ones they didnt possess. Was he a good enough coach to recognise this fact and adjust his way of thing to match the tools was he hell. A guy arrives at a carpentry shop and finds only screwdrivers and screws and he wants to work with hammers and nails, do you blame the factory owner who bought all the tools when you find him bashing in nails with a screwdriver or do you as why he doesnt use screws? Mcghee spent his time hitting the nails with screwdrivers and then blaming the workbench cos the chair fell apart but what did it for me more than anything is through out thick and thin I never thought of binning my season ticket and not going to a game He very nearly drove me away from football and i'm one of these saddo's that likes nothing more than sitting watching aberdeen vs ict i a bottom of the league clash in febuary when its -2 and pishing down with a howling gale, the results might not be a million miles away now to what they were but by christ are we a million times better to watch than we were beforeFor almost driving me from the game I couldnt care less if he never worked in football again McGhee and that AFC squad did drive me away from all things AFC! I was an avid supporter since 1992 (season ticket holder until 2006 when working offshore all over the world made that not viable). I still regularly went to games - i was in Dnipro, Madrid, Munich and Olomouc as well as countless domestic games but my last game was November 2009 when we beat the Huns 1-0 (Lee Miller goal). I was a stay away supporter for over 2 years, turning down countless free tickets and even corporate twice because apathy had well and truly set in. I attended my first AFC game in over 2 years for the SC win over Forfar the other week - it hasn't rekindled my passion i'm afraid - I still blame McGhee. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Bristol will nae be that far from his wee hoosie in Brighton. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 McGhee and that AFC squad did drive me away from all things AFC! I was an avid supporter since 1992 (season ticket holder until 2006 when working offshore all over the world made that not viable). I still regularly went to games - i was in Dnipro, Madrid, Munich and Olomouc as well as countless domestic games but my last game was November 2009 when we beat the Huns 1-0 (Lee Miller goal). I was a stay away supporter for over 2 years, turning down countless free tickets and even corporate twice because apathy had well and truly set in. I attended my first AFC game in over 2 years for the SC win over Forfar the other week - it hasn't rekindled my passion i'm afraid - I still blame McGhee.McGhee was a far better manager than Jimmy Calderwood... :fishing: :fishing: Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I had similar feelings circa 2008/09 when it felt like our manager, director of football and chairman and therefore the club itself were insulting the fans and telling them they were wrong for expecting more than mediocrity. Looking back, McGhee was never going to last - as much as he made an arse of it I'd argue plenty more fans were driven away in the years immediately preceding his arrival and have never seen the club in the same way since.The club NEEDS a cup win. But even then, one cup win will probably still not bring people back, we should be looking to get to at least 1 final in every 4. A cup win and the new stadium might bring people back. Link to comment
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