Did Craig Brown Kinda Sorta Just Blame The Fans

[Ke1t]

erm

 

"I kept saying ...don't let the occasion and the expectation get to you. I'm afraid the terrific support in some respects put a great pressure on the players. And that pressure they didn't manage to handle."

[boboisared]

erm

 

"I kept saying ...don't let the occasion and the expectation get to you. I'm afraid the terrific support in some respects put a great pressure on the players. And that pressure they didn't manage to handle."

Nah.

[Pudgie]

Nope.

[granite sheep]

Seems to be AFC official policy to hate and denigrate the fans, just never wondered just how far down the notion permeated. Club is rotten to the core.

[fine-n-dandy]

So what if he does.

We blame him & there's more of us so we're right & the rebel one is wrong.

[sheepiekev]

Nah, Craig Brown can be accused of a few things, but blaming the fans is not one of them.

He usually goes out of his way to apologise to us almost on a weekly basis.

[fine-n-dandy]

Besides.

If you call that pressure, then the players have chosen the wrong fkn profession.

Scottish cup semi against Hibs, in front of 15000 Dandies cheering you on.

 

Fk knows how they cope in a final

[Ke1t]

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have posed this as a question, because Brown clearly names 'fan expectation' as a contributory factor to the team's bottling of the semi.

[Stoney]

Wish brown had said this before saturday, we could have let them play in an empty stadium and we would have a scottish cup final to look forward to watching in the pub...........

 

Or is he saying the hibs players (who im betting have an average age of less than ours) handled the pressure better even though hibs havnt won a cup in 110 years.

 

I thought browns signings policy was sign experienced players. So is he saying he failed in that respect?

 

Ramblings of a man totally out of his depth.

[Kilkito]

I actually think what he's saying might be true, the sad part is, that if it is, these players are in the wrong profession.

[ebbe]

Wish brown had said this before saturday, we could have let them play in an empty stadium and we would have a scottish cup final to look forward to watching in the pub...........

 

Or is he saying the hibs players (who im betting have an average age of less than ours) handled the pressure better even though hibs havnt won a cup in 110 years.

 

I thought browns signings policy was sign experienced players. So is he saying he failed in that respect?

 

Ramblings of a man totally out of his depth.

 

pap on.

[sheepiekev]

Wish brown had said this before saturday, we could have let them play in an empty stadium and we would have a scottish cup final to look forward to watching in the pub...........

 

Or is he saying the hibs players (who im betting have an average age of less than ours) handled the pressure better even though hibs havnt won a cup in 110 years.

 

I thought browns signings policy was sign experienced players. So is he saying he failed in that respect?

 

Ramblings of a man totally out of his depth.

 

Any manager who still thinks Darren Mackie can perform a job in a Scottish Cup semi final is clearly senile and out of his depth.

I'd rather have an epileptic, one legged, blind spastic in a wheelchair playing for Aberdeen than that fat wage thief.

NB - No offence to epileptic, one legged, blind spastics for the comparison to Darren Mackie.

[ebbe]

Any manager who still thinks Darren Mackie can perform a job in a Scottish Cup semi final is clearly senile and out of his depth.

I'd rather have an epileptic, one legged, blind spastic in a wheelchair playing for Aberdeen than that fat wage thief.

NB - No offence to epileptic, one legged, blind spastics for the comparison to Darren Mackie.

 

seeing the fat poltis trotting onto the park on saturday was a disgrace almost as disgraceful as the eejits who chanted his name. the state of him trying to trap, then play a 5 yard pass back to mcardle will haunt me for ever. at that moment aberdeen became the laughing stock of world football.

[sheepiekev]

seeing the fat poltis trotting onto the park on saturday was a disgrace almost as disgraceful as the eejits who chanted his name. the state of him trying to trap, then play a 5 yard pass back to mcardle will haunt me for ever. at that moment aberdeen became the laughing stock of world football.

 

I shook my head in utter disbelief, firstly at the substitution, and then at the retards that actually chanted "One Darren Mackie"!

Funnily enough, me and the boy behind me said in complete unison "thank fuck for that"

[Redstar]

Wish brown had said this before saturday, we could have let them play in an empty stadium and we would have a scottish cup final to look forward to watching in the pub...........

 

Or is he saying the hibs players (who im betting have an average age of less than ours) handled the pressure better even though hibs havnt won a cup in 110 years.

 

I thought browns signings policy was sign experienced players. So is he saying he failed in that respect?

 

Ramblings of a man totally out of his depth.

 

Spot on Stoney...Broon is hopelessly out of his depth...He's a TV pundit at best who after he leaves/is fired will eek out a living boring cu*ts to death with laboured after dinner speeches

[V for Vendetta]

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have posed this as a question, because Brown clearly names 'fan expectation' as a contributory factor to the team's bottling of the semi.

 

His names "fan expectation" BUT he doesn't say fans are wrong to have those expectations.

 

Could be his point was the players should be able to handle those expectations but cannot.

 

TBH as recent Aberdeen managers go you might say that was incredibly insightful. If only he would take it a step further and dump the weakest minded of the players as he sees it - can only benefit the team.

[K-9]

His names "fan expectation" BUT he doesn't say fans are wrong to have those expectations.

 

Could be his point was the players should be able to handle those expectations but cannot.

 

TBH as recent Aberdeen managers go you might say that was incredibly insightful. If only he would take it a step further and dump the weakest minded of the players as he sees it - can only benefit the team.

9 of the Hampden 11 were signed up by Brown with McArdle and Robertson being the only 2 not. He just cannot pass the blame on this one.

[Ke1t]

His names "fan expectation" BUT he doesn't say fans are wrong to have those expectations.

 

Could be his point was the players should be able to handle those expectations but cannot.

 

TBH as recent Aberdeen managers go you might say that was incredibly insightful. If only he would take it a step further and dump the weakest minded of the players as he sees it - can only benefit the team.

 

I think he was ill-advised to cite 'fan expectation' as a contributory factor to the team being mentally incapable of winning a semi final. He inadvertently called his team bottlers and (in a by now standard AFC tactic) alluded to the fans' expectations being unreasonable when it comes to said team of bottlers.

 

I'm sure that wasn't his intention at all, but he said what he said and I personally reckon he revealed more than he intended.

 

We DO seem to employ a disproportionate number of mentally fragile players though.

[dj_bollocks]

Expect wee Craig to field 11 outfield players as he decides that as the goalie never has any saves to make we don't need one...

[V for Vendetta]

9 of the Hampden 11 were signed up by Brown with McArdle and Robertson being the only 2 not. He just cannot pass the blame on this one.

 

Yes. But fail to see what difference that makes to my point?

 

My point was pure speculation and probably total toss but it still stands that we don't really know what Broon was inferring by his comments. From what I read that was quoted he didn't blame the fans for this.

 

I think he was ill-advised to cite 'fan expectation' as a contributory factor to the team being mentally incapable of winning a semi final. He inadvertently called his team bottlers and (in a by now standard AFC tactic) alluded to the fans' expectations being unreasonable when it comes to said team of bottlers.

 

I'm sure that wasn't his intention at all, but he said what he said and I personally reckon he revealed more than he intended.

 

We DO seem to employ a disproportionate number of mentally fragile players though.

 

Pretty ill advised yes. But he has to say something to the press after a defeat like that and I think whatever he says will be disected.

 

We repeatedly bottle it. Thats just a fact.

 

So yes I agree he revealed something there - maybe he even did it intentionally, he can be quite canny sometimes in between doting around. Could be he was having a dig at the players for being bottlers. Put it this way, after that game do you think Archie put his arm around the players and told them "not to worry it was the fans expecting too much" or do you think he tore into them for being spineless poofs unworthy of Afc? I think its more likely the latter personally.

[Redstar]

Broons a weak man...that was fu*king obvious from day one...he will peddle excuse after excuse...it is no surprise he is citing "fan expectation" as yet another excuse for his failure as a manager...go now old man before people realise you

[laphroaig]

I shook my head in utter disbelief, firstly at the substitution, and then at the retards that actually chanted "One Darren Mackie"!

Funnily enough, me and the boy behind me said in complete unison "thank fuck for that"

 

Most folk were laughing when chanting it, the boos after about 20-30 mins were worse IMO.

[Redstar]

Most folk were laughing when chanting it, the boos after about 20-30 mins were worse IMO.

Kind of says it all...laughing as you're chanting for an unfortunate to come on and make a fool of himself...almost like a circus?

[laphroaig]

Kind of says it all...laughing as you're chanting for an unfortunate to come on and make a fool of himself...almost like a circus?

 

 

Laugh or cry.. what you gonna do?

[The Boofon]

Any manager who still thinks Darren Mackie can perform a job in a Scottish Cup semi final is clearly senile and out of his depth.

I'd rather have an epileptic, one legged, blind spastic in a wheelchair playing for Aberdeen than that fat wage thief.

NB - No offence to epileptic, one legged, blind spastics for the comparison to Darren Mackie.

 

 

None taken.

 

[Mab Aws]

Sigh.

 

Personally I'd say that the team that we played most of the last 20 minutes with shows exactly why we lost......3 central defenders, 3 central midfielders, 3 central attackers, plus a goalie and Clark Robertson.

 

When we desperately needed width to attack a side who are notoriously vulnerable to cross balls, it wasn't there.

 

Brown knew that we needed width...hence Fyvie and Mackie thrown on as wingers, but he simply didn't have the players that were needed available to him. And considering that even the dimmest of Dons fans has known for 8 months exactly what we needed in the squad, it's hard to see how anyone but Craig Brown was to blame for Saturday.

 

I don't think we have bad players. It's just that we don't have the right players.

 

The writing was pretty much on the wall after Chris Clark set up Hibs opener when he seized up with fear after being confronted with 25 yards of space in front of him on the left wing.

 

It's so feckin galling that we have to suffer as another golden chance is thrown away, and then listen to Brown blame everyone but himself for the turgid guff that was Saturday.

[Mab Aws]

It's got a lovely First day of Christmas feel about it

 

 

I just tried singing that, and you're right.... :-)

[The Boofon]

It's got a lovely First day of Christmas feel about it

 

Well we certainly have a manager with no presence.

[fine-n-dandy]

Shouldn't be as much pressure on the team the next time we stumble our way into a semi final cos there certainly won't be as much as 15000 fans there next time.

Lucky to get 10000 next time.

[Stoneybloke]

So he says the players are soft, and the fans expect too much. It's not his fault at all.