barassie_afc Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Quoting bare statistics without applying context is utterly meaningless. Horseshit Link to comment
tup Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Horseshit You would say that you started the meaningless playground stat quoting pish. Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 You would say that you started the meaningless playground stat quoting pish. Aye the goals scored for a striker is meaningless, away and play with the traffic you zoomer , we arent talking about unemployment rates etc Link to comment
StevieT1986 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Thinking about my comnent i think i was a bit harsh on vernon. I think he is starting to show his frustrations at the complete lack of service snd the fact thats he's expected to do everything Link to comment
tup Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Aye the goals scored for a striker is meaningless, away and play with the traffic you zoomer , we arent talking about unemployment rates etc I think you've taken what I said out of context, a bit like you've not applied context to your statistic quoting. Maybe you should try to apply context is my advice. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 His best results were when he had Maguire to feed off. Link to comment
Redstar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 His best results were when he had Maguire to feed off.Not being funny but Maguire could cross a ball...It's pretty hard for a striker if there are no decent balls being crossed into him. To add insult to injury Vernon has had to put up with the Brooner sometimes starting him off as a wide player ...He's shown terrific restraint, as has McArdle, by not knocking the Brooners block off!! Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Vernon at left win one was of the most shocking things i have seen Fuckin senile old cunt. Link to comment
tup Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Vernon at left win one was of the most shocking things i have seen You must have led a very sheltered existence. Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Sorry not much inbreeding or gang rape of wild animals down here loon Link to comment
tup Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Sorry not much inbreeding or gang rape of wild animals down here loon Down where? Link to comment
Redstar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 correct and just goes to show the idiocy of those who said we wouldnt miss him also correct...playing vernon on the wing shows a gross mis-understanding of the kind of player he is Brown's failure to persuade Maguire or Aluko to sign on showed that he didn't have the pull some thought he commanded when appointed...his failure to replace either of them showed that he knows fu*k all about the balance of a football team...which is frankly shocking for a supposed "master of the game" Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Maguire had the confidence to try and beat his man. NOBODY in the Aberdeen at present would even think about trying such a forward thinking attacking manoeuvre, not with Brown at the helm anyways. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Brown's failure to persuade Maguire or Aluko to sign on showed that he didn't have the pull some thought he commanded when appointed...his failure to replace either of them showed that he knows fu*k all about the balance of a football team...which is frankly shocking for a supposed "master of the game"Bollocks. Both of those were leaving regardless. Aluko especially. Link to comment
Mikeyboy1903 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Quoting bare statistics without applying context is utterly meaningless. Ok how about the context of playing Roy Hodgson tactics where the strikers doesn't even get the ball to his first.... there's a good stat for you and context. Link to comment
Redstar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Bollocks. Both of those were leaving regardless. Aluko especially.Read the whole post..."His failure to replace" Link to comment
tup Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ok how about the context of playing Roy Hodgson tactics where the strikers doesn't even get the ball to his first.... there's a good stat for you and context. Context perhaps, but written in code by the looks of it. I've no idea what you mean, but I think you've missed out some crucial word/s. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Bollocks. Both of those were leaving regardless. Aluko especially.So as we all knew that, would it not have been prudent to replace them with players who could fill the gap that they left. Oh I forgot, wasn't that meant to be Chalali? Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 So as we all knew that, would it not have been prudent to replace them with players who could fill the gap that they left. Oh I forgot, wasn't that meant to be Chalali?The point was about them leaving, not the replacements. He said that it was Browns failure that they were allowed to leave which, as I rightly pointed out, is bollocks. Replacements, who knows. We were never going to get anyone as good as Aluko for the money we were offering players. We can't even keep the players we have, let alone attract anyone decent to come here. We got lucky with Aluko and we brought through Maquire. I doubt we could afford to buy anyone or even find anyone of that calibre at the moment. Not with our great scouting Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Read the whole post..."His failure to replace"Brown's failure to persuade Maguire or Aluko to sign on showed that he didn't have the pull some thought he commanded when appointedIt is there in black and white. Your next "sentence", I use that loosely as you don't seem to have worked out how to use full stops, did not counteract your first "sentence". Link to comment
Redstar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The point was about them leaving, not the replacements. He said that it was Browns failure that they were allowed to leave which, as I rightly pointed out, is bollocks. Replacements, who knows. We were never going to get anyone as good as Aluko for the money we were offering players. We can't even keep the players we have, let alone attract anyone decent to come here. We got lucky with Aluko and we brought through Maquire. I doubt we could afford to buy anyone or even find anyone of that calibre at the moment. Not with our great scouting No matter what way you word it the buck stops with the man in charge...who just ain't up to the job Link to comment
Mikeyboy1903 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Context perhaps, but written in code by the looks of it. I've no idea what you mean, but I think you've missed out some crucial word/s. Sorry typed it a bit fast and never looked over it, For Vernon to be playing a team that doesn't go forward, doesn't create and to score the goals he has is a miracle. Link to comment
Redstar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 So it's 100% down to the manager to keep our better players at the club? Nonsense.Jesus...do you boys not read past the first line?...He hasn't replaced either Maguire or Aluko in 3 windows...which seems glaringly obvious to everyone accept the man with the power to do something about it Link to comment
tup Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Sorry typed it a bit fast and never looked over it, For Vernon to be playing a team that doesn't go forward, doesn't create and to score the goals he has is a miracle. However, the majority of them were scored when he had a partner in Maguire who could actually play football. Link to comment
Stoneybloke Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 The point was about them leaving, not the replacements. He said that it was Browns failure that they were allowed to leave which, as I rightly pointed out, is bollocks. Replacements, who knows. We were never going to get anyone as good as Aluko for the money we were offering players. We can't even keep the players we have, let alone attract anyone decent to come here. We got lucky with Aluko and we brought through Maquire. I doubt we could afford to buy anyone or even find anyone of that calibre at the moment. Not with our great scoutingI agree, that fact that all we seemed to be able to come up with were the likes of Chalali and Uchechi says it all. It seems that the limit of their scouting of Pittodrie is to look up some agent's web sites and select them from there with a short trial against Peterhead to check them out. The reluctance of anyone in the team to take on and beat an opponent is very noticeable. In addition there is no one who seems capable of any long penetrating accurate passes. All in all its a bit dire. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Jesus...do you boys not read past the first line?...He hasn't replaced either Maguire or Aluko in 3 windows...which seems glaringly obvious to everyone accept the man with the power to do something about itYou made two points. Your first was bollocks, your second I agree with partially with the replacements. They weren't the same point. Link to comment
Redstar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 You made two points. Your first was bollocks, your second I agree with partially with the replacements. They weren't the same point.Only partially?...can you explain how he has partially addressed these glaring holes in the team? Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 So it's 100% down to the manager to keep our better players at the club? Nonsense.He managed to convince Vernon to sign on, so he can't be that bad at the negotiations. Aluko wanted to leave, that was obvious since Calderwood left and Maquire got offered a decent gig down in England. Can't say I blame him for leaving. But hey, fuck you Brown for letting them leave... Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Only partially?...can you explain how he has partially addressed these glaring holes in the team?There was no way Brown was going to be able to bring in anyone as good as those who left, therefore his hands were tied in what he could bring in...hence the chalaialailaiiia and Uchechi. That could be down to our scouting network or the money we are offering...probably both. Brown wasn't 100% responsible for not bringing in suitable replacements. HOWEVER....he should have brought in Full Backs. But that is a different arguement, as this one is about Aluko/Maquire replacements Link to comment
Redstar Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 You obviously don't since I already said it was down to him to replace them. I was calling you up on your point that the buck stopped with the manager when it came to them leaving in the first place - which was utter pish. I not sure Bri...Broon was most probably signed up cause Milne thought, and this is pure conjecture, he had some sort of pull in the footballing world...which looks to be complete pish...in fact it may be the opposite...see Grimmer and Fyvie Link to comment
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