Spl Vote

[Ke1t]

I believe that was Football Finance Expert Andy Goram who quoted the "4 teams will go bust without ra'rangers'by'ra'way" insight.

 

Holy shit... so that's EIGHT teams, then?

[fine-n-dandy]

There is no way that St Johnstone would even consider voting against Rangers remaining in the SPL, no matter what Brown said to the media. Absolutely not a chance.

Apparently if they do fold or go down, which they wont, then 4 clubs would almost instantly go into Administration too, not sure which ones though but 4 was the number mentioned.

Despite this, i couldnt give two hoots. The huns have got to go, no doubt about it. If they are allowed to continue then within a few years they will be back up to strength and with zero debt then we are back to the start again where the rest of the league are simply accepting that they are, and always will be, simply fodder for the Old Firm. The message it sends out is wrong, it sends out the message that the league is based around 2 teams for the benefit of those 2 teams both financially and competition wise. The other 10teams will allow themselves to be fucked up the arse by the Old Firm again and again and if its allowed this time then never again will another opportunity arise like this one which gives the clubs at least a chance to at least try to address the imbalance.

 

If its business as usual next season in the SPL then thats definitely it for me, i will never again attend a domestic fixture in this country.

 

 

Says who? The Weegie meedja?

 

It's one of those things thrown out there to scare people, but it's utter bollocks.

 

 

Correct! it's media spin BS!

 

I believe that was Football Finance Expert Andy Goram who quoted the "4 teams will go bust without ra'rangers'by'ra'way" insight.

 

 

Aye that'd be about right

 

That come straight out of the mouth of one of the SPL chairmen who has been involved in the discussions. I dont know if its his opinion or if it is something they have discussed amongst themselves though.

 

 

Aye Craig Whyte most likely.

 

You believe in 7 years bad luck for breaking a mirror as well?

[fine-n-dandy]

Aberdeen supremo Stewart Milne noncommittal over stance on Rangers newco

 

May 23 2012

 

ABERDEEN have refused to commit to a policy on a newco Rangers despite pressure from supporters.

 

Chairman Stewart Milne released a statement today saying only that they will act in the best interests of the club and Scottish football.

 

Charles Green's consortium plan to form a new company, which would buy the assets of the current club, if creditors reject their Company Voluntary Arrangement offer to come out of administration.

 

That newco club would need to apply to the SPL to acquire Rangers' share with all clubs getting a vote on the matter from next Wednesday.

 

Many Scottish football supporters do not feel a new Rangers should secure entry to the top flight and Milne responded to Aberdeen fans' concerns today.

 

Milne said: "We are aware of the issues, concerns and opinions raised by our supporters with regards to the ongoing situation.

 

"These issues have taken up a great deal of my time, Duncan Fraser, the chief executive's time, and that of our board of directors.

 

"The issues are complex and the situation remains extremely fluid.

 

"Events continue to move on a daily basis and therefore we feel it has been, and remains, inappropriate to comment publicly on what might arise out of this.

 

"We will continue to give this matter our full attention and will do what we believe is in the best interests of Aberdeen Football Club and Scottish football and will communicate this to our supporters at the appropriate time."

 

Milne's vague comments mirror a previous statement by Celtic but other chairmen have been more explicit.

 

Hibernian's Rod Petrie last week claimed "sporting integrity is beyond purchase" while St Johnstone chairman Steve Brown yesterday insisted he would demand sanctions on any newco Rangers.

 

However, Kilmarnock chairman Michael Johnston argued Rangers have been punished enough following this season's 10-point deduction, failure to secure a UEFA licence and 12-month transfer embargo imposed by the Scottish Football Association.

 

And SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster has consistently claimed he sees little difference between a newco and a CVA exit from administration.

 

Milne issued his statement ahead of tonight's BBC Scotland documentary entitled Rangers - The Men Who Sold the Jerseys.

 

The BBC publicity says the story is based on "dozens of secret emails, letters and documents which uncover the truth behind the tax scheme which threatens the club's very existence, and reveals what went on behind the scenes in the run up to Craig Whyte's infamous takeover".

 

Investigative reporter Mark Daly, who uncovered Whyte's disqualification as a director in a programme aired in October, revealed more details of his programme on Twitter.

 

He said: "Biggest EBT beneficiaries named, did Whyte really "dupe" Sir David (Murray) and questions over the administrators."

 

The SPL are still investigating alleged undisclosed payments relating to the club's Employee Benefit Trusts, which are the subject of a multi-million pound tax tribunal.

As we expected. Milne is a spineless cunt

 

He must think the fans are just throwing out empty threats.

Does he even realise just how many fans will be walking away (possibly for good) after this vote?

We're already losing fans consistently season on season & the remainder are at the end of their tethers & it will really not take much for that final collapse of our once great fan base.

[perthshirered]

Correct! it's media spin BS!

 

 

 

 

Aye that'd be about right

 

 

 

 

Aye Craig Whyte most likely.

 

You believe in 7 years bad luck for breaking a mirror as well?

 

 

Aye okay then.

You know best.

[V for Vendetta]

Aye okay then.

You know best.

 

I think you are correct one of the SPL Chairman made this estimate.

 

However I think people just don't see how this stacks up. There just doesn't seem to be evidence to show how clubs would lose so much if Rangers are on the SPL for 3 years.

 

I'm sure Dundee Utd for example would benefit greatly from having Dundee in the league.

 

And as I said earlier in the thread, if Rangers are gone then the voting can be changed and all the diddy clubs can get a little more cash coming in from the SPL.

[Dandyesque]

Good to see the fag packet calculators out in force

 

Some interesting bits on Newsnight though- Murray hinting that liquidation now looking very likely and Spiers stating the SPL are desperate to keep Rangers in, while hammering them as much as they can in the process.

 

Rangers' staff comments relating to the 3rd division being a possible outcome are clearly designed to add pressure to the SPL clubs.

[fine-n-dandy]

Aye okay then.

You know best.

 

 

sorry did I annoy you into making an arm folding huffy reply?

 

I'm not claiming to know anything about this situation but you know as much as I do & all I'm claiming is that I don't believe the media BS that is being spouted about 4 teams going into administration as soon as the huns go down but you obviously buy into this media spin (which is what they want)

[neillyboy81]

I was browsing further net info on the ongoing EBT investigations in Scottish football and stumbled across this

 

Please read and view your thoughts,

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/what-if-celtic-accept-wrong-doing-re-juninhos-ebt-aberdeen-spl-winners-2005/

 

 

My initial thought was although this may be hypothetical, then surely we would be entitled to financial compensation for loss of hypothetical champions league money. Surely the board must - A, look into this seriously. B, raise this with the other SPL clubs

[fine-n-dandy]

Good to see the fag packet calculators out in force

 

Some interesting bits on Newsnight though- Murray hinting that liquidation now looking very likely and Spiers stating the SPL are desperate to keep Rangers in, while hammering them as much as they can in the process.

 

Rangers' staff comments relating to the 3rd division being a possible outcome are clearly designed to add pressure to the SPL clubs.

 

 

You'd be amazed at the wonders that have been achieved on the back of fag packets & beer mats etc.

 

Is it only real accountants that are allowed to "speculate"?

[perthshirered]

sorry did I annoy you into making an arm folding huffy reply?

 

I'm not claiming to know anything about this situation but you know as much as I do & all I'm claiming is that I don't believe the media BS that is being spouted about 4 teams going into administration as soon as the huns go down but you obviously buy into this media spin (which is what they want)

 

I obviously buy the media spin?

Ive already told you that it was an SPL chairman that told me this personally, he is in the construction industry and not the media. Like i said, im not sure how he comes to the conclusion but id imagine the chairmen have got together and discussed these matters.

[vanderark14]

any club whos finances depend on the survival of a competitor & the visit of its disgusting fans deserves whats coming to them. Yes I do include AFC in this.

[The Boofon]

any club whos finances depend on the survival of a competitor & the visit of its disgusting fans deserves whats coming to them. Yes I do include AFC in this.

 

Correct.

 

If a club can only survive because they get 4000 orcs visiting twice (or once) a season then they're screwed anyway.

[tup]

I obviously buy the media spin?

Ive already told you that it was an SPL chairman that told me this personally, he is in the construction industry and not the media. Like i said, im not sure how he comes to the conclusion but id imagine the chairmen have got together and discussed these matters.

 

Geoff Brown's son.

 

I don't buy it for a second.

 

Teams will lose more money by retaining Rangers.

 

Only Rangers sympathisers think otherwise.

 

Quite how anyone can have any sympathy with them, unless as suspected they are supporters of the club in key positions at other clubs, is beyond comprehension.

 

In any case, it's shite.

[perthshirered]

Geoff Brown's son.

 

I don't buy it for a second.

 

Teams will lose more money by retaining Rangers.

 

Only Rangers sympathisers think otherwise.

 

Quite how anyone can have any sympathy with them, unless as suspected they are supporters of the club in key positions at other clubs, is beyond comprehension.

 

In any case, it's shite.

 

Correct, it wasnt that hard to work out though.

I hope your right, i hope the clubs figure out that they stand to lose more if they decide to vote for keeping Rangers in the league. I hope that if they do vote Rangers in then the fans are true to their word and really do make a stand. The chairmen and boards of the clubs really need to start listening to their supporters and if they dont then they deserve to be punished.

 

I still think they will vote Rangers in again if they survive that long though. Interesting times ahead.

[tup]

The only issue lies in the sinister behind the scenes workings of Rangers and their cronies.

 

There is nothing they can do in terms of legitimate measures to prevent the backlash against them.

 

Their dirty tricks are now being exposed, which is a great development.

 

All it needs now is for one or other of the authorities to finish them off.

 

The presence of either Rangers or a Rangers newco in next season's SPL is absurd. The reasoning as to why we may need that presence is absurd, and does not stand up to even the most flimsy of scrutiny.

 

Ultimately, fan power will win the day. It has to. The alternative is the doors get shut, and the game's a bogey.

 

It amazes me that people like Johnston and Brown have done so well in life. They appear utterly bereft of common sense.

[seanthesheep]

The only issue lies in the sinister behind the scenes workings of Rangers and their cronies.

 

There is nothing they can do in terms of legitimate measures to prevent the backlash against them.

 

Their dirty tricks are now being exposed, which is a great development.

 

All it needs now is for one or other of the authorities to finish them off.

 

The presence of either Rangers or a Rangers newco in next season's SPL is absurd. The reasoning as to why we may need that presence is absurd, and does not stand up to even the most flimsy of scrutiny.

 

Ultimately, fan power will win the day. It has to. The alternative is the doors get shut, and the game's a bogey.

 

It amazes me that people like Johnston and Brown have done so well in life. They appear utterly bereft of common sense.

 

 

 

Read the story in the following link - We don't feckin need them

 

 

http://celticunderground.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=914:who-needs-rangers&catid=47:season-2011-2012&Itemid=83

[The Boofon]

Read the story in the following link - We don't feckin need them

 

 

http://celticunderground.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=914:who-needs-rangers&catid=47:season-2011-2012&Itemid=83

 

Blocked at work. Can you copy and paste?

[seanthesheep]

Blocked at work. Can you copy and paste?

 

It has tables with financial figures etc Boofon and when I paste it in it goes tits up. Maybe someone else who has time could create an image of the story and paste it in that way for you????

[tup]

It has tables with financial figures etc Boofon and when I paste it in it goes tits up. Maybe someone else who has time could create an image of the story and paste it in that way for you????

 

i.e. pissoff boofon.

[seanthesheep]

Try this Boofon. You will need to save it then enlarge it yourself

 

 

 

 

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[The Boofon]

i.e. pissoff boofon.

 

Wrong again.

 

 

Try this Boofon. You will need to save it then enlarge it yourself

 

 

 

 

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

[perthshirered]

Read the story in the following link - We don't feckin need them

 

 

http://celticunderground.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=914:who-needs-rangers&catid=47:season-2011-2012&Itemid=83

 

 

Celtic are not much better. Id take anything their club or fans say with a massive handful of salt.

I can see Celtic voting to keep them in too despite their posturing.