Changes Afoot At Suit Level

[Guest]

Not doubting any of this as such just find it a little odd.

 

I just don't quite see how Gilbert hung around so long if he wasn't happy with the way things were run. He didn't need to sit on the board all this time if he felt Milne was such a disaster.

 

Would be really good to get some comment from people who genuinely know whats behind the goings on and whether the new additions will genuinely bring drive and focus or are just more stooges for Milne.

 

Also does the appointment of an executive VC suggest Milne will step back from the club and the Vice Chairman will effectively chair the regular board meetings?

 

It's pretty much a given that Milne would have taken a back seat years ago, had any of his appointments actually came up with the goods. However, for one reason or another, much of what has transpired has meant he's been thrust back to the fore, to try and atone for his poor management decisions, or those made on his behalf. Of course, in football, a lot of things are result dependent, but again, he was responsible for appointing a whole host of failed managers (or at least, appointing them and either not instilling the right values and/or providing the right tools for the job).

 

You'd have to suggest that with this most recent appointment, he'd be on the right path. George Yule has a very decent CV. Whether he can pull of the stadium move and galvanise the club is a big question mark. I think Milne would ultimately need to hand over near enough all responsibility to Yule for decision making, so long as it was rubber stamped at Board meetings obviously. But Milne is not a football man, and his biggest failure has been understanding the environment in which he's working. It's a wee bit more complicated than plying a farmer or council with dosh for land, and then employing cheap tradesmen to throw up shoddy houses, sold at great profit. Football is a fluid business, every changing, where you also have to rely on a favourable wind. Most of what Milne has touched has turned to sh*t, in stark contrast to his building empire.

 

He did it for the good of the club, supposedly... Just like Milne hangs about for the good of the club, supposedly.

 

Milne has wanted to take a massive step back for a long time now. The timing now though probably has a lot to do with how busy SMG will be over the next 3-5 years as well, they have planning permission for almost 4000 houses in Aberdeen alone now.

 

The plan, from what I've heard, is for him to get the stadium built (which is the main role for the VC), mortgage it so AFC are a more steady ship financially and then sell his shares and move on.

 

I think Gilbert probably didn't want to be seen as the man who blinked first, and ran off with his tail between his legs. Business accumen aside, I think Gilbert is 10 times the man Milne will ever be, both from a intellect view and a character one.

And as touched on above, the plan, at least as I know it, has always been for Milne to sort out the debt and then move on. His ONLY plan has been to move and refinance it that way. It's a sad indictment of Milne that it's taken well over 10 years to get anywhere close to moving, and even now, the goalposts seem to keep moving.

 

Good to hear he is appointing a VC so he can step back a bit. Thats got to be a good thing.

 

I'm not desperate about the new stadium in its current form but something needs to happen and I just hope they can get it sorted out and Milne can do the decent thing on his way out the door - sink some cash in without expecting anything in return.

 

I can only dream I suppose.

 

Not a cat's chance in hell that Milne would ever invest his own personal wealth in AFC. I think there's more chance of a Sevco Supporters Bar being opened in Aberdeen.

 

I know that he is going out with/possibly engaged(?) to the Press Communications Officer at Pittodrie, so not all ties have been severed.

 

Who, Dave McDermid?

[K-9]

According to Charlie Allan

 

 

[Dynamo]

According to Charlie Allan

 

 

[seanthesheep]

According to Charlie Allan

 

 

[Tommy]

According to Charlie Allan

 

 

[a don in oz]

So... is he reducing costs at a board level for less money into the club due to no Sevco in the SPL?

[Dynamo]

Maybe, just maybe, he wanted a no vote and was getting grief from others.

 

If he has decided it's a yes vote, hell mend him.

 

Would be the other way round going by what Willie Miller was saying at the dinner a few weeks ago...(on his own views that is, not anything about MIlne).

[Redstar]

Maybe, just maybe, he wanted a no vote and was getting grief from others.

 

If he has decided it's a yes vote, hell mend him.

 

I think it might be the opposite after seeing his interview yesterday...Miller was certainly in the no camp

[K-9]

That to me says we are defo voting NO and expecting revenue loss which we are offsetting by offloading salaries to compensate.

Hints opposite to me. Only Miller of the five take a salary and the one coming in as CEO will almost certainly be on higher salary than Miller was on.

 

Clearly a disagreement within board.

[Dynamo]

If Milne votes yes he has just shot himself in the foot.

[RUL]

It's fairly obvious not a financial decision as only miller was paid and nobody knows how the vote will go. I fear the worst if Chris Gavin has been dismissed, it suggests we are voting for a newco

[RUL]

I think it might be the opposite after seeing his interview yesterday...Miller was certainly in the no camp

I thought Milne refused to answer the question?

[tup]

There's absolutely no way AFC will vote 'Yes' to letting any new Rangers company back into the SPL.

 

Willie Miller was sympathetic to Rangers plight.

[tommo1903]

Who, Dave McDermid?

 

No Paul Hartley, keep up.

[Redstar]

I thought Milne refused to answer the question?

Did you watch the interview...it's posted somewhere on here...sometimes folk can give things away without actually saying as much...wish we had the boy off "Lie to me" onboard...he'd have a field day "analizing" the mannie Milne

[Dynamo]

There's absolutely no way AFC will vote 'Yes' to letting any new Rangers company back into the SPL.

 

Willie Miller was sympathetic to Rangers plight.

 

 

You know fuck all about fuck all. Maybe just be quiet. :thumbs:

[RUL]

Did you watch the interview...it's posted somewhere on here...sometimes folk can give things away without actually saying as much...wish we had the boy off "Lie to me" onboard...he'd have a field day "analizing" the mannie Milne

Nah I read about it here today but didn't see it.

 

Fairly sure at the supporter roadshows Miller suggested the league needed rangers but why would he argue so much that he'd leave about it? Similar with Gavin.

 

Could just be an excuse right enough from Milne

[tup]

You know fuck all about fuck all. Maybe just be quiet. :thumbs:

 

Folk are suggesting these board members were bulleted so we could vote 'Yes' to newco.

 

That's nonsensical. It's fairly obvious from the rhetoric emerging from Pittodrie that we are voting 'No'.

[Redstar]

Nah I read about it here today but didn't see it.

 

Fairly sure at the supporter roadshows Miller suggested the league needed rangers but why would he argue so much that he'd leave about it? Similar with Gavin.

 

Could just be an excuse right enough from Milne

 

It's on this page ... http://www.afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=28983&st=12180

[Tommy]

The club have been completely non committal about it from day one.

 

Anything else is just guesswork.

 

 

Of course.

 

But it's good to pretend we have a clue.

[tup]

The club have been completely non committal about it from day one.

 

Anything else is just guesswork.

 

It's easy to read between the lines with most of the clubs in the SPL.

 

The only ones I see who would possibly vote 'Yes' are:

 

Killie -

Caley -

Motherwell -

Rangers (who staggeringly still get a vote) -

[RUL]

Hearts Only statement was yes

[ollie1903]

There's absolutely no way AFC will vote 'Yes' to letting any new Rangers company back into the SPL.

 

Willie Miller was sympathetic to Rangers plight.

 

 

Willie Miller was unequivocal in his stance re what should happen to Rangers.

[MightyDons]

Willie Miller was unequivocal in his stance re what should happen to Rangers.

 

If it is Milne's intention to vote yes and all these board members have agreed to go, then I hold every single one of them in the same contempt.

[tup]

Willie Miller was unequivocal in his stance re what should happen to Rangers.

 

He disna care about kick-off times.

 

He praises Walter to the hilt, despite the man being possibly implicated at the highest level in widespread fraud for most of his term on the Dons board.

 

The man disna have a fucking clue about what real Aberdeen supporters think.

[Guest]

No Paul Hartley, keep up.

 

Referring to AFC's Communication Officer.

[V for Vendetta]

Doesn't sound good and does appear a bit like Milne preparing to vote "yes" and clearing out the dissenters.

 

However do we think Yule would take up the position knowing that was the stance? If he is as big a fan as stated?

[Guest]

It's fairly obvious not a financial decision as only miller was paid and nobody knows how the vote will go. I fear the worst if Chris Gavin has been dismissed, it suggests we are voting for a newco

 

In terms of the power he had in AFC, Chris couldn't pull the skin of a rice pudding. He held no weight whatsover at Boardroom level. I would not place too much on his deletion as a Director (which was after all, a token gesture to appease the baying masses).

[ollie1903]

He disna care about kick-off times.

 

He praises Walter to the hilt, despite the man being possibly implicated at the highest level in widespread fraud for most of his term on the Dons board.

 

The man disna have a fucking clue about what real Aberdeen supporters think.

In your opinion, and be that as it may, but from the horses mouth, and said with vehemence, he was firmly in the Rangers out camp.

[tup]

In your opinion, and be that as it may, but from the horses mouth, and said with vehemence, he was firmly in the Rangers out camp.

 

Well he disna come across very well in the media, and seems to be ignorant of the issues which have decimated Scottish football, namely the subservience to Celtic and Rangers which means they dictate everything from kick-off times to money distribution and railroad it all in their own direction.

 

That is the real problem. It's not Rangers in isolation. It's the policy making that they represent.