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I am a surprising advocate for the iPhone because I never thought I would ever get a touchscreen jobby. I was Nokia for well over a decade and after the 6310i, thought that battery life in particular was important to me. When Union Square opened and the Apple shop had up that Orange was now ale to support the iPhone and as I was in my last three months of contract, I got one. I have no problem charging it most nights but if I haven't used it much that day and it's 63 or 73%, I sometimes don't bother.

I used to have the iPhone 4 which the g/f is now using and I moved to the Samsung Galaxy S2. Mainly because they offered the phone for nowt on quite a cheap contract. I had doubts that I would have switched over, but I have been converted to Android for a number of reasons. Battery life not being one of them, although the ability to replace a battery is very useful but not something that would sway me one way or the other.

 

I am intrigued to see what direction smartphones will go from here. Sticking in Quad Core processors and 12MP is all well and good, but they don't seem to add anything. The SG2 has a dual core and it's quick enough. The iPhone 4 was single core and it was pretty snappy as well.

 

I'm not convinced with NFT either

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I'm not married to iPhone so would be interested to know what the benefits are for Android, although I'm in contract for another year or so.

A couple of things that have swayed me towards the SG2 include:

 

Expandable memory (32G is generally fine for everyday use, but I have watched a few HD movies which are huge so the extra 32GB provided by micro SD was helpful)

Price - The iPhone contracts are still very expensive.

Customisability - I like having the ability to change how the UI looks with Widgets etc. Not a huge thing though.

 

I already had the 4 and was looking at the 4S, but they are basically exactly the same phone so seemed a bit pointless upgrading to it. The SG2 has the same specs as the 4S.

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Thanks. I never watch movies and 16GB is more than enough for me so just personal preference really.

To be honest, there really isn't a huge difference between Android and IOS. It is definitely personal preference. For example, I like having a menu and back button on my phone...it's not a huge thing, and I managed fine with the one button iPhone for years.

 

Would like to see Windows 8 in action.

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id suggest then that this is down to the fact the iphone is a better fone, therefore it uses more power

 

if youre telling me that you know of one which dies within 12 hours without being used, then its broken

 

 

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Millertime has an iphone therefore it's the best phone out there.

 

It's the most expensive as well.

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iPhone is a definite triumph of form over function.

 

I can't imagine how it can possibly be 'The Best' under any rational criteria, although 'best' is subjective.

 

I guess it's technically possible that, say, if you don't want to be able to switch out memory at any given time, or if you don't want to be able to tether it more than a limited number of designated devices, or if you want substandard data transfer rates, or if you don't want to be able to replace the battery, or if you want to pay twice as much as a comparable device, or if you want zero customisation unless you jailbreak (at which point it's 'warranty void') then, by those criteria, it could definitely qualify as 'The Best'.

 

It's kinda like Budweiser is the 'Best' beer because it's a massive seller and has cool adverts. The actual product itself is pretty weak, but that doesn't stop it being 'The Best' to those who drink it.

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iPhone is a definite triumph of form over function.

 

I can't imagine how it can possibly be 'The Best' under any rational criteria, although 'best' is subjective.

 

I guess it's technically possible that, say, if you don't want to be able to switch out memory at any given time, or if you don't want to be able to tether it more than a limited number of designated devices, or if you want substandard data transfer rates, or if you don't want to be able to replace the battery, or if you want to pay twice as much as a comparable device, or if you want zero customisation unless you jailbreak (at which point it's 'warranty void') then, by those criteria, it could definitely qualify as 'The Best'.

 

It's kinda like Budweiser is the 'Best' beer because it's a massive seller and has cool adverts. The actual product itself is pretty weak, but that doesn't stop it being 'The Best' to those who drink it.

Just goes to show how impressive Apples Markettng is. They are still managing to sell a device, which has been overtaken by many others, as being "the best" and people believe it because it has that Apple logo on it.

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Just goes to show how impressive Apples Markettng is. They are still managing to sell a device, which has been overtaken by many others, as being "the best" and people believe it because it has that Apple logo on it.

 

You know what demographic is being targeted when a technology firm makes the focus of its commercials, "Look at all the pretty colors! Look at them! Look! There's a RED ONE!" and "Can you see how fucking THIN this thing is? Jesus fuck, it's THIN!!"

 

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If I'm spending cash on a piece of technology I want to know how well it performs, not if I can buy a fucking Angry Birds case to keep it in.

 

Now I realise that there's a massive portion of the buying public who don't have the first clue about technology. They don't know, or care, if there's a difference between a single processor or a 4 core device. They're not interested in shit like bus speed or data transfer rates. They want something that will do the job right out of the box. Apple will do that for them, absolutely. They're not customisable for a reason. And that reason is that if you give someone with no technical knowledge the ability to fuck around with something... they're going to change settings and have no idea how to fix it.

 

now while it's not 'broken', as far as the user is concerned it IS broken, because it stopped doing what they wanted it to do. And at that point Apple's service desks are going to be flooded with complaints. Their devices are working fine, but Joe Schmoe only knows that he pushed a button and now the thing that used to 'work' doesn't work now.

 

Therefore they make their devices with limited customisability, zero expansion, an almost idiot proof online store, and adverts that focus on the AWESOME COOL rather than on whether it's current technology or not.

 

So it's understandable that Apple's business model works, supplying the huge numbers of people who have zero technical knowledge. But while that business model works, Apple is in no way supplying 'The Best' from a technical standpoint.

 

They do have nice display resolutions, though. I will admit that. Though, seriously, I've no use for 'better than hd' resolution on a 5" device.

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iPhone is a definite triumph of form over function.

 

I can't imagine how it can possibly be 'The Best' under any rational criteria, although 'best' is subjective.

 

I guess it's technically possible that, say, if you don't want to be able to switch out memory at any given time, or if you don't want to be able to tether it more than a limited number of designated devices, or if you want substandard data transfer rates, or if you don't want to be able to replace the battery, or if you want to pay twice as much as a comparable device, or if you want zero customisation unless you jailbreak (at which point it's 'warranty void') then, by those criteria, it could definitely qualify as 'The Best'.

 

It's kinda like Budweiser is the 'Best' beer because it's a massive seller and has cool adverts. The actual product itself is pretty weak, but that doesn't stop it being 'The Best' to those who drink it.

I've made this point many times about Apple, though used the McDonalds analogy. I have asked people if they think Big Macs are the best burgers in the world. The answer is invariably no - so I compare iPads / iPhones / iPods to the mass marketed and succesfully sold Big Mac.

 

I personally own a ZT ThinkPad an HTC phone and a Creative music player - all leaps and bounds better than my wife's Apple tat.

 

The irony in this wee story is that I actually love Big Macs, and think they are possibly the best burgers in the world.

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The budweiser and big mac analogy falls flat on its arse. You're not talking about a 3 or 4 quid beer or burger. It's something that the majority of people have to think about before buying, purely on a money point of view which means it's not the same type of purchase or purchasing decision at all. Not an impulse buy.

 

Beyond that, there's really no point arguing the toss about it given the supercilious (and ever-so-not-at-all-slightly superior) nonsense being put around. Just thought I'd call you both on that silly analogy.

 

Especially since one of you just called Big Macs the best burgers in the world when it's obvious the Whopper is superior.

 

(no... I don't like either burger)

 

 

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The budweiser and big mac analogy falls flat on its arse. You're not talking about a 3 or 4 quid beer or burger. It's something that the majority of people have to think about before buying, purely on a money point of view which means it's not the same type of purchase or purchasing decision at all. Not an impulse buy.

 

Beyond that, there's really no point arguing the toss about it given the supercilious (and ever-so-not-at-all-slightly superior) nonsense being put around. Just thought I'd call you both on that silly analogy.

 

Especially since one of you just called Big Macs the best burgers in the world when it's obvious the Whopper is superior.

 

(no... I don't like either burger)

The only burger worth eating in any of those joints is the XL Bacon Double Cheeseburger.

 

This is fact.

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whats your point?

 

theyre not indestructable

 

theyre so sleek and sexy that they cant be made 100% bulletproof

 

apple replaced the item anyway...so again, whats ur point?

 

 

My point was the 'best all round' phone on the market wouldn't need to be replaced.

 

Have you had much experiences of other smart phones to back-up your assertion?

 

 

 

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