New Iphone

[Bluto10]

iPhone is a definite triumph of form over function.

 

It's kinda like Budweiser is the 'Best' beer because it's a massive seller and has cool adverts. The actual product itself is pretty weak, but that doesn't stop it being 'The Best' to those who drink it.

 

being cool and streetwise i'm happy with my ipod touch. but i'm technical enough to know that its far from the perfect device many believe it to be. for what i use it i'll probably get an iphone one day. simple.

i suppose i am contributing to the hype and marketing success by simply going with whats functionally friendly even if the technical specs do not match the price.

 

i aint orderd a bud in 15 years though, so i do have some ambition.

[Henry]

honestly?

 

you dont think if somethings the best, itd ever break???

 

yes, one of my sisters has the galaxy s, another one has a htc, her boyfriend has a different htc

 

mince

 

whats your point?

 

So you haven't used any phone regularly other than your iphone?

 

Do you see where I'm going with this?

 

You're uninformed.

 

You can't make a decision on the Galaxy based on you picking up your sister's phone, glancing at it, before exclaiming "HAW SENGA, THAT PHONE'S PISH, SO IT IS."

 

For the record, I have an iphone which I'm happy with, but I have no experience of HTC, Samsung etc, so wouldn't be arrogant enough to proclaim the iphone the best.

 

 

 

[Bluto10]

so why do you have one then?

 

its functional, simple and i'm easy going enough for it to fit my needs - web surfing and music.

 

that said, i know its not perfect. and i am wary enough of apple to still be using a normal phone and not an iphone.

[The Boofon]

define a "minker"

 

 

 

Someone with black teeth and no class.

[StandFree1982]

no

 

 

 

 

well, yeah

i can afford any phone on the market, so why wouldnt i have the best?

 

 

 

whats your point?

 

theyre not indestructable

 

theyre so sleek and sexy that they cant be made 100% bulletproof

 

apple replaced the item anyway...so again, whats ur point?

 

 

 

 

realy?

 

whats better than it?

Why is the iPhone 4S "the best"?

 

Hardware - The SG2 alone is running similar hardware, and that is an old phone. There are now quad core smartphones out there with HD screens and more memory. I like the iPhone camera on the 4 though, that was one thing I did like about it.

 

Software - ok, it's app store is probably the one thing that Apple can really boast about, but most of the apps I use day to day are on Android. Also, you are restricted to what Apple say you can download, they decide what you can and can't have on your phone. This is a double edged sword as it opens security risks...but I'll take my chances.

 

UI - I don't like the fact that all you have on your screen is HUNDREDS of icons for apps! It looks a mess. I like having the ability to modify my screen and put what I want on it. The iPhone is slick...but it's lack of customization is a downfall for me.

 

Expandability - You can't expand the memory. If you bought a 16GB one and running out of space, tough! Also, I have a Android tablet which I can directly stick a USB drive into and copy files to and from it. With the iPad you have to attach the iPad to the laptop, turn the laptop on, fire up iTunes, plug your hard drive in and then eventually transfer the file. The Android....well I just stick the usb in and play the file.

 

I honestly can't think of anything, other than Apple getting official apps before Android, that makes the iPhone that great compared to other phones. I'm not saying the iPhone is a bad phone, because it's anything but...i'm just not convinced that it's the be all and end all of the Smartphone.

[The Boofon]

 

 

UI - I don't like the fact that all you have on your screen is HUNDREDS of icons for apps! It looks a mess. I like having the ability to modify my screen and put what I want on it. The iPhone is slick...but it's lack of customization is a downfall for me.

 

 

Just shift all the apps to the right and onto the screen to the second page.

[Bluto10]

literally NOTHING in that there makes sense

 

you must be stupid then

[StandFree1982]

Just shift all the apps to the right and onto the screen to the second page.

Yeah, but I like the widgets you get with Android.

[The Boofon]

Yeah, but I like the widgets you get with Android.

 

Does your screen have heaps of widgets on it?

[a don in oz]

The only burger worth eating in any of those joints is the XL Bacon Double Cheeseburger.

 

This is fact.

 

You're righter than anyone else in this thread by a long way.

 

 

 

[StandFree1982]

Does your screen have heaps of widgets on it?

Nope.

[Henry]

 

well, yeah

i can afford any phone on the market, so why wouldnt i have the best?

 

 

No you can't

 

 

http://blog.dialaphone.co.uk/2012/01/11/the-top-ten-most-expensive-handsets-in-the-world/

 

 

 

[Jones]

Ahh first world problems.

[robbojunior]

iPhone is a definite triumph of form over function.

 

I can't imagine how it can possibly be 'The Best' under any rational criteria, although 'best' is subjective.

 

I guess it's technically possible that, say, if you don't want to be able to switch out memory at any given time, or if you don't want to be able to tether it more than a limited number of designated devices, or if you want substandard data transfer rates, or if you don't want to be able to replace the battery, or if you want to pay twice as much as a comparable device, or if you want zero customisation unless you jailbreak (at which point it's 'warranty void') then, by those criteria, it could definitely qualify as 'The Best'.

 

It's kinda like Budweiser is the 'Best' beer because it's a massive seller and has cool adverts. The actual product itself is pretty weak, but that doesn't stop it being 'The Best' to those who drink it.

 

But there's your answer right there.

 

A large number of people as you mention are clueless mongs, so the more simplistic the user interface and the less customisable the device, the better. So to these mongs, the iphone is The Best. You can't fuck it up through your own stupidity (well, maybe you can but its much more difficult).

 

But on the flip side, there are people like me, who are fairly techy and understand how to use more complex devices and understand the specification, but still prefer the iPhone. Do i think its The Best? Well, I suppose yes I do. Its The Best for me.

I could clearly have a phone with better performance, greater customisation potential, etc etc, but I don't need that. I like how simple the iphone is. If i want to do anything more complicated than play angry birds or look up the bbc website, etc, then i'll go on my laptop and do it properly with a big screen.

 

For clarity, i think the ipad is fucking shit. Now there's a device that doesnt know what it is for and is truly the demise of the brainless mong.

[Bluto10]

For clarity, i think the ipad is fucking shit. Now there's a device that doesnt know what it is for and is truly the demise of the brainless mong.

 

 

im tending along these lines too.

 

the iphone / touch is great as its truel;y portable.

 

but the ipad is a like a laptop but without crucial functionality. and of course neither are particularly portable.

[Iraq_Red]

Just to demonstrate the power of Apple's marketing and how people fall for it is to look at the 4 and the 4s, basically the same phone but with a better processor but nothing ground breaking but yet people fell for it and wanted it.

 

Me, I'm waiting until the new Windows 8 Phones are available as I will be getting one of them as I have a win 7 phone and its great, the OS doesn't slow the phone down, so you don't have to check to see what apps are still running in the background like on an Android phone!

[Jones]

Just to demonstrate the power of Apple's marketing and how people fall for it is to look at the 4 and the 4s, basically the same phone but with a better processor but nothing ground breaking but yet people fell for it and wanted it.

 

Me, I'm waiting until the new Windows 8 Phones are available as I will be getting one of them as I have a win 7 phone and its great, the OS doesn't slow the phone down, so you don't have to check to see what apps are still running in the background like on an Android phone!

 

I hate hate hate the new windows mobile OS. It was ok like 4 years ago but the new one is just horribly laid out and not very user friendly. Had an HTC with windows mobile 7 on it for a day or so before swapping it back to android.

[The Boofon]

As long as the numbers are in this order:

 

1-2-3

4-5-6

7-8-9

* 0 #

 

I'm not too fussed about operating systems, widgets or apps.

 

Any phone manufacturer that fucks about with the number lay out is in for a rough ride if you ask me.

[Ke1t]

The budweiser and big mac analogy falls flat on its arse. You're not talking about a 3 or 4 quid beer or burger. It's something that the majority of people have to think about before buying, purely on a money point of view which means it's not the same type of purchase or purchasing decision at all. Not an impulse buy.

 

It only seems that way because you're missing the point of said analogy.

 

The cost of the product is irrelevant. What we're discussing is slick advertising which ignores the function of the item and focuses on the form. That holds true whether you're buying a 99p piece of gristle in a bun or a 500 buck piece of technology. People are swayed by the slick advertising, and convinced by that advertising that the thing they're buying is 'the best', despite any practical comparison proving otherwise.

 

Take Millertime... he's convinced that he has 'The Best' despite having no actual data to corroborate or support his notion. he has what he is led to believe is a great device, and that becomes his reality.

 

The 'Best' in Millertime's, and in the case of I would guess is the majority of iPhone users, becomes purely subjective.

 

 

 

Especially since one of you just called Big Macs the best burgers in the world when it's obvious the Whopper is superior.

 

(no... I don't like either burger)

 

Wendys burgers pisses on both, I think you'll find.

 

If you look at their advertising, it TELLS you that quality is their recipe. Does Big Mac or Whopper have QUALITY in their recipes?

 

I thought not.

 

[StandFree1982]

There also seems to be a case of "The more money it costs, the better the product must be", which is true for most Apple products.

[a don in oz]

It only seems that way because you're missing the point of said analogy.

The cost of the product is irrelevant. What we're discussing is slick advertising which ignores the function of the item and focuses on the form. That holds true whether you're buying a 99p piece of gristle in a bun or a 500 buck piece of technology.

Don't agree at all. The price definitely comes into the purchasing decision and that was the point I said your analogy falls down on. Slick advertising won't make someone spend more money than they would normally spend just because... hence the difference between a 99p burger and a 500 quid gadget is night and day. (And we can't really say that advertising, slick or otherwise, is what makes people buy MacDonalds burgers: ubiquity and price do)

 

 

Most people will never impulse buy a 500 quid gadget. The ones that will are usually loaded and are outliers to this whole equation.

 

The "form over function" thing is based on nothing but snobbery. Yes, you can want to tinker to your hearts content. The fact that others don't, and want a product that will do as advertised out of the box in a specific way that is a well thought out and clear and consistent way, does not make the decision to choose that, any less valid or or the product an example of "form over function".

 

Anyway, I wasn't going to get into this and will step out now having made the point that will be ignored or ridiculed by every Android toting wonk who decides their Android-ness somehow denotes a discerning taste cf others. (Just like any Apple toting wonk who thinks they're somehow better for owning the - formerly - most expensive smartphone device)

 

As you were... since you will be anyway.

 

 

[robbojunior]

It only seems that way because you're missing the point of said analogy.

 

The cost of the product is irrelevant. What we're discussing is slick advertising which ignores the function of the item and focuses on the form. That holds true whether you're buying a 99p piece of gristle in a bun or a 500 buck piece of technology. People are swayed by the slick advertising, and convinced by that advertising that the thing they're buying is 'the best', despite any practical comparison proving otherwise.

 

Take Millertime... he's convinced that he has 'The Best' despite having no actual data to corroborate or support his notion. he has what he is led to believe is a great device, and that becomes his reality.

 

The 'Best' in Millertime's, and in the case of I would guess is the majority of iPhone users, becomes purely subjective.

 

Of course it is. How can it be anything else?

 

I agree with everything you say - a huge number of people are swayed by the slick advertising and convinced that the thing they are buying is 'the best' - and thats because a huge number of people are thick as fuck and have no ability to think for themselves. The only thing I disagree with you on, is the fact that the iphone is not a great product. Its not The Best from a technical perspective but its The Best smart phone for what i want from a smart phone.

[Bebo]

Just throwing this out there. The majority of people reading the hat via a mobile device uses something running iOS.

 

[The Boofon]

not me then, phew

 

 

 

 

You keep believing it Millertime. :thumbs:

[Ando]

Someone with black teeth and no class.

 

[robbojunior]

But there's your answer right there.

 

A large number of people as you mention are clueless mongs, so the more simplistic the user interface and the less customisable the device, the better. So to these mongs, the iphone is The Best. You can't fuck it up through your own stupidity (well, maybe you can but its much more difficult).

 

But on the flip side, there are people like me, who are fairly techy and understand how to use more complex devices and understand the specification, but still prefer the iPhone. Do i think its The Best? Well, I suppose yes I do. Its The Best for me.

I could clearly have a phone with better performance, greater customisation potential, etc etc, but I don't need that. I like how simple the iphone is. If i want to do anything more complicated than play angry birds or look up the bbc website, etc, then i'll go on my laptop and do it properly with a big screen.

 

For clarity, i think the ipad is fucking shit. Now there's a device that doesnt know what it is for and is truly the demise of the brainless mong.

 

 

1- you DO realise, youre an idiot, right?

 

2- right there youve basically just said "its idiots who think the iphones the best",

3- then followed it up with, "im brainy and i also think the iphones the best"

 

 

MT i love how you extrapolate these wild and false conclusions from what people say. That is a rare skill, mostly possessed by retards. I have numbered your points so I can respond to them individually:

 

1- I didn't, thanks for pointing that out.

2- no I didn't

3- no I didn't

 

You thick cunt.

[360]

When anyone who has an IPhone buys a case for it, it's probably just a coincidence that they all have a hole so everyone can still see the apple logo on the back.

[The Boofon]

When anyone who has an IPhone buys a case for it, it's probably just a coincidence that they all have a hole so everyone can still see the apple logo on the back.

 

I've never noticed that.

 

I've just checked and it's not true.

 

Are you on the mushrooms again 360?

[360]

I've never noticed that.

 

I've just checked and it's not true.

 

Are you on the mushrooms again 360?

 

I couldn't possibly comment... Yes, I am.

[robbojunior]

yes, yes you did

 

1) "So to these mongs, the iphone is The Best."

 

2) "there are people like me, who are fairly techy and understand how to use more complex devices and understand the specification... Do i think its The Best? Well, I suppose yes I do."

 

 

Deep breath.

 

I said 'a large number of people' I did not say ALL people.

I said I had some techy knowledge I did not say 'I am more brainy' - lots of people are not particularly tech savvy but are far more intelligent than I.

 

Therefore, you have made a giant leap from my statements to what you wrongly believed I meant and therefore you are the thick cunt not me.

 

I make no claims about my intelligence, nor do I class all iPhone owners as idiots. Fuck me you really are a fucking donut.