Players Who Were Undercapped

[ericblack4boss]

players who were never or recieved too few international caps considering thier abilities

 

Paul Mason- i honestly believe he was the best attacking midfielder of his time in the Scottish game he was unlucky enought to be around at a time of England being able to boast midfielders like Barnes, Beardsley, Waddle, Platt, Gascgoine

 

Theo Snelders - one solitary cap for the Dutch and no place in the Italia 90 squad.

 

Eric Black - only capped twice for Scotland an none whilst at Aberdeen, Andy roxburgh felt that the likes of Peter Grant, Ian Wilson, Andy Walker were more deserving of national caps than the great eric.

 

others

Billy Stark, Frank McDougall, Brian Grant, another three who were uncapped for the national side.

oh and add to that former St.Mirren keeper Campball Money, Tommy Coyne ( i know played for Eire but should've been capped for Scotland ) and ig Andy Ritchie

[tup]

To be fair Snelders was going to be capped for Holland but famously 'bottled it' before a clash with Germany, and withdrew from the starting line-up, a feat later repeated by Kevin McNaughton (his was imposed by Vogts), meaning basically the end of their international careers before they started.

[tutankamun]

Peter Weir, only 6 caps

[tup]

The strength of that Aberdeen team at the time was it's teamwork and togetherness as quite a few of these players mentioned went on to mediocre careers elsewhere.

 

The real reason for the success of the club during that spell was Alex Ferguson rather than any individual player, we changed the team around, but kept winning, which of course he's still doing to this day.

 

We've never had a manager since who's even come close to matching his drive and ambition.

[ericblack4boss]

Peter Weir, only 6 caps

fair point about Weir but remember he was around at the same time as Davie Cooper another player underused by his country.

also look at the palyers Scotland had competing for that left side role in those days Weir, Cooper, Burns, Provan, Pat Nevin. Eammon Bannon, to name just six

[Dal Riata Don]

Allan Thomson should've been capped for E*****d whilst at Celtic.

[Jigot]

There were a good few players denied further caps due to the Weegie bias.Players who would have walked over hot coals to play for Scotland,but a long procession of managers kept picking players from the once apon a time old firm.Players who routinely pulled out of a match with an injury,but always,as if by miracle,made their club game a couple of days later.

[ericblack4boss]

Doug Rougvie, he was most unfortunate to have competition from maurice malpas and Stevie Nicol for that left back berth.

[ericblack4boss]

would like to add two more

Paul hegarty and Dave Narey, what chances that one of the most reliable, dependable, talented, defensive partnerships would be around at the same time ast THE best central defensive pairing.

[tup]

Narey did play a number of times for Scotland including scoring an outrageous toe-poke against Brazil that Millertime look-a-like Jimmy Hill labelled a fluke, thus the famous 'We hate Jimmy Hill, he's a , he's a ' chant was born.

[tutankamun]

Matt Le Tissier only got 8 caps for the full England team.

 

Might have got a few more than that if he had decided to play for any of the other home nations.

[Jigot]

Matt Le Tissier only got 8 caps for the full England team.

 

Might have got a few more than that if he had decided to play for any of the other home nations.

Good point tut,I always took it for granted that the Channel Islands were part of englandshire,but that's from someone who asked the way to the "Duty Free"on the Stranraer to Belfast ferry.

[bonzodaddy73]

Allan Thomson should've been capped for E*****d whilst at Celtic.

I'm sure he was and played shite in his only game. Could be wrong though.

[tightbreeks]

i'll say it again. we should've played the aberdeen XI in '82. most of '86 as well.

[tutankamun]

I'm sure he was and played shite in his only game. Could be wrong though.

 

Correct. Picked by Sven for a game against Sweden.

 

The only Celtic player to have won an England cap.

[ollie1903]

fair point about Weir but remember he was around at the same time as Davie Cooper another player underused by his country.

also look at the palyers Scotland had competing for that left side role in those days Weir, Cooper, Burns, Provan, Pat Nevin. Eammon Bannon, to name just six

Peter Weir was "unfortunate" to be around at the same time as Cooper and John Robertson who was winning European Cups at the time with Forest. Neither of whom were, in my opinion, fit to lace the boots of Weir. Scandalous he only received 6 caps as i'm sure the England skipper of the day Mills would testify. He still breaks out in cal' sweats at the mention of his name.

I refer to anyone, or thing, who is hyped to the hilt only after death, as having "Davie Cooper Syndrome". You would have thought he was better than Maradona such was the outpouring of pish after his passing.

[Dal Riata Don]

Correct. Picked by Sven for a game against Sweden.

 

The only Celtic player to have won an England cap.

 

 

I'm here to learn

 

 

 

[bonzodaddy73]

I'm here to learn

Dinnae worry min. Plenty on here will tell you your wrong even when your right.

[spamspamspam]

Probably not for ability, more for the competition available... McNaughton. When clubfoot a ricky fucking fester get picked its pretty shite McNaughton doesnt.

[sheepiekev]

Doug Rougvie, he was most unfortunate to have competition from maurice malpas and Stevie Nicol for that left back berth.

 

Rougvie was lucky to be an fairly average player in an excellent team IMO.

[sheepiekev]

The strength of that Aberdeen team at the time was it's teamwork and togetherness as quite a few of these players mentioned went on to mediocre careers elsewhere.

 

The real reason for the success of the club during that spell was Alex Ferguson rather than any individual player, we changed the team around, but kept winning, which of course he's still doing to this day.

 

We've never had a manager since who's even come close to matching his drive and ambition.

 

"We've never had a manager since who's even come close to matching his drive and ambition"

 

....nae shit Sherlock

[a1-don]

There are loads of Dons who deserved more caps:

 

David Robertson

Steven Wright

Steven Glass

Eoin Jess

Joe Harper

Neil Simpson

Neale Cooper

Jim Bett

Duncan Shearer

Benny Yorston (38 goals in a season but only ever capped once)

 

Also non-Dons:

 

Phil O'Donnell

Jamie Dolan

John Robertson (hearts)

John Kennedy (if he'd not been injured so badly)

[a1-don]

jamie dolan?!

 

Lambert and Dolan were a great pairing for Motherwell and dominated us every time we played them. Lambert got loads of caps but Dolan didn't get any and probably deserved to get his chance.

[Ke1t]

Rougvie was lucky to be an fairly average player in an excellent team IMO.

 

Doug Rougvie served the purpose he was in that team better than anyone I can think of.

 

The supposed 'Hard Men' of the Old Firm absolutely shat themselves in the presence of Rougvie, I'm particularly thinking of guys like Aitken, and the Huns' Johnston/es Stampy and Fatty.... which is exactly what he was there for.

 

So, in his particular role, he was about the best there was.

[RUL]

Paul mason

[Dynamo]

I'll say Russell Anderson. Purely because of the utter shite that has been played (regularly in some cases) ahead of him the last 10 years.

 

Kevin McNaughton.

[tup]

Kevin McNaughton.

 

Unfortunately shat himself before the friendly game against France in Paris which never goes down well at international level.

 

I don't think he was that great either to be honest.

[Redstar]

Unfortunately shat himself before the friendly game against France in Paris which never goes down well at international level.

 

I don't think he was that great either to be honest.

Well not really...Volks thought he looked nervous in training so chose not to select him...this was after Volks at a press conference had stated that McNaughton (19 years old) was definitely playing...I doubt there would be many 19 year olds who wouldn't be looking nervous at the prospect of their full international debut...McNaughton was wrongly labelled as being a "bottler"...Kraut Cu*t!!

[Bluto10]

I was reading the other day that Mark Walters and Neil Ruddock only have 1 English cap. I've no idea why, but it shocked me, I just expected them to have more.

 

I also can't believe Michael Dawson has had less caps than Ledley King, I've always thought Dawson was the better defender.

 

As for Scotland, Kevin McNaughton and Russell Anderson for me (although Russells is more than I expected) - they were just incredible at times, and never seemed to get a look in.

 

Mark McGhee at 4 caps (2 goals) - is that also surprising to many of the older gadgies? With the way many go on about McGhee (player) it really does surprise me.

 

Kris Boyd at 18 caps, what a finisher of the ball he was at Rangers and Kilmarnock, but at the same time - he was a lazy bastard and he's pissed his career away majorly, he could have been up there with the top goalscorers for Scotland had he put a bit more effort in.

 

What was Tommy Burns like as a player? It comes as a shock to me he only has 8 caps....and Frank McAvenie with only 6.

 

Eoin Jess with 18 caps, when you look at the list of players with caps, and maybe it's favouritism from me - but I'd expect that tally to be much higher.

 

plenty good scottish fwds around at that time,...

 

wilie miller and hansen are two other obvious examples. but similarly lots of good defenders too.

 

hoddle only got just over 20 i think, but folk still wank over him to this day.

 

i agree with boyd. surely in this current day and age he should have more

[Dynamo]

Unfortunately shat himself before the friendly game against France in Paris which never goes down well at international level.

 

I don't think he was that great either to be honest.

 

 

Neither to I, but again due to the pish that HAS played, I thought he was deserving.

 

True re shitting it. Although never got a second chance which is maybe harsh.