Euthanasia

[rumpus]

If you're father in law dozes off when you're visiting he must be an astute judge of character.

[fine-n-dandy]

If you're father in law dozes off when you're visiting he must be an astute judge of character.

 

Aye. "Shit, here comes that God bothering cunt again. Probably going to try & preach his BS beliefs at me again. Time to fake sleep again I feel"

[Bobby Connor]

Our grandad is 90 now. He's been suffering from dementia for over 10 years now and he had a habit of calling me by my dad's name before he was put in a home. Lovely man but effectively left this planet ten years ago.

 

Couldn't take him to my gran's funeral cos it would have confused him.

 

I'm still not sure if he should be put out of his misery but no doubting there are many good cases for it. It should probably be adjudicated on by a court and each case judged individually.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

If you're father in law dozes off when you're visiting he must be an astute judge of character.

 

Well done, Rumpus / Cow, that was a rare humorous success for you

 

(Who fed you that line? Dont say fatjim coz we wont believe you).

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

Aye. "Shit, here comes that God bothering cunt again.

 

He is the same, but Church of Scotland (so obviously much less prestigious lol).

 

Plus, its St Margarets Hospice he is in!

[Clydeside_Sheep]

That's your opinion and its fair enough. I would struggle to argue against any of that^ post, as those are your beliefs.

 

However, I don't agree with its introduction being a slippery slope as you said in your first post. We're talking about people getting the right to die, not the right to kill others.

 

(re bold) Thats a fair enough argument.

 

I just think its worth recalling that, when aboriton was legalised, it was meant to be a very rare event and only if a womans life was in danger. Yet, only a few decades later, it had become de-facto abortion on demand.

 

As a result, millions of peole have been killed before being able to take their first step - lets not go on to kill millions more, before they have taken their last.

[looksgoodinred]

Thanks, everyone, for the kind words about my father in law I probably shouldn't have mentioned that, but hey ho.

 

They have got him jacked up on all manner of opiates etc, so his pain is under control, but obviously with knock on effects for his stamina etc - often very tired / drowsy as a result. Sometimes when you visit he just dozes away.

 

But you should see him perk up when his grandson arrives, and if you catch him at a good time, he will still talk about the football*

 

(*he is Clydebank fan and so Ive had bloody good value out of our 4-3 cup win in 1992. Ironically, the hospice is just round the corner from Holme Park, where Clydebank play these days - its Yokers ground and they share it. Its a dump, but an endearing dump; I went to a game with him once, just after he was diagnosed. They get a decent crowd still).

 

My apologies for a typically verbose / robust post from myself earlier. I understand why the concept is appealling in some circumstances, but I fear it would be a slippery slope.

 

We dont want to get into a situation where wee old men and women are frightened to go to the doctor with the flu, for fear that some hot-shot "medic" will decide that they are in fact a waste of oxygen and should be put down.

 

"Its hell being old" as my late grandad would say, but there is still a lot of joy and laughter to be had - even if there are harder times too.

 

The idea that a life is "not worth living" or that some people are "sub human" - these are the ideas our forebearers fought to defeat in the mid-20th century.

 

i would never suggest that someone's life wasn't worth living; that's their choice to make. if they choose to.

 

but would it not make more sense to provide more end-of-life care if you want to ensure people in pain or suffering, can get some respite from that pain and enjoy participating in life, to whatever degree they're able?

 

i think as long as you have miserly medical systems in many countries, you'll have people suggesting they'd rather be dead than suffer the continuing pain and indignities of government-funded "care".

[Poodler]

 

i would never suggest that someone's life wasn't worth living; that's their choice to make. if they choose to.

 

but would it not make more sense to provide more end-of-life care if you want to ensure people in pain or suffering, can get some respite from that pain and enjoy participating in life, to whatever degree they're able?

 

i think as long as you have miserly medical systems in many countries, you'll have people suggesting they'd rather be dead than suffer the continuing pain and indignities of government-funded "care".

Or even worse, private care homes.