It Doesn't Matter Who The Next Manager Is,

[daytripping]

The irony of this post!!

 

You may be mistaking negativity for acceptance, things are not going to get any better whilst Milne is in charge.

 

We're a club in decline. A building magnate with cash and land to burn and we don't even have a basic training facility, that is not acceptable in this day and age. That's before you get to the crumbling stadium and an appalling squad of players, a new manager may plaster over the cracks for a little while but it's major surgery that's required to reverse the decline.

 

Milne has to go, and he can write off the debt he helped create in the process.

[daytripping]

Of course it matters who the new manager is.

We have a decent budget (in SPL terms)

If we have a manager that can organise a team, get them playing with confidence, and having a go at teams, then yes it definitely matters.

 

History has sadly proven this to be untrue with Aberdeen.

[Redstar]

The new man has a mammoth task to turn AFC around...the job has been made near impossible if the new manger has to now deal with the idiot who has taken us to these depths on a daily basis...I'm fairly confident the baffling decision to retain the Brooner will have been enough for Adams to utter the immortal line "for that reason ...I'm out"

[daytripping]

The new man has a mammoth task to turn AFC around...the job has been made near impossible if the new manger has to now deal with the idiot who has taken us to these depths on a daily basis...I'm fairly confident the baffling decision to retain the Brooner will have been enough for Adams to utter the immortal line "for that reason ...I'm out"

 

Our last two wage additions are now an ex copper to do some useless unneeded community job and a bumbling negative pensioner to join an already crowded boardroom table, well done Mr Milne, take a bow, those additions will help drag us out of this mess.

[King Street Loon]

What exactly is George Yule's standing within the business community?

 

Personally I'd never heard of the cunt before, but that doesn't mean much I suppose.

Was Yule not supposed to be the man to attract new investment from oil rich people/companies?

 

Surely with him taking over the day to day running people would be more inclined to invest, or am I being naive?

Probably.

 

Dayts is right that Aberdeen as a club are in the lucky position of being slap bang in the middle of wealth yet we can't attract a penny of it to this club.

 

The club is a rotting corpse.

A new manager isn't going to change much IMO unfortunately.

[tommo1903]

Acceptable to me?

 

top 4 in league

European qualification.

Cup final every 2 years or so.

Cup WIN every 4 years max.

 

Fixed.

[caledonia]

Who will be the new manager of our once great club is irrelevant imo, it will end in exactly the same manner as our last few appointments have.....i.e abject failure. The job is a poisoned chalice.

 

The club is rotten to the core, only a new broom and a complete boardroom clearance will change anything, Milne has to go, I don't know where the money will come to to oust him but while he's here you could put Fergie in charge and you'd get the same results. While servicing a huge debt that he created we're going nowhere, he knows it and doesn't care, we need someone who does.

 

This city is full of mega rich people and companies but while Milne is in charge we'll never attract any of them to invest real amounts of money, get him gone and we can start rebuilding.

 

Even looking beyond the money aspect; what club in the World would go out of their way to treat the most vocal and loyal fans (The red ultra's) the way our club did, as I said, poison to the core, packed with self interested tossers.

 

Negativity abounds around Pittodrie, players pick up wages and the hardcore still turn up but the real fight and ambition we used to have has long gone.

 

Chris Anderson will be spinning in his grave.

 

great post that is exactly how i think its milne and the club thats the problem

[caledonia]

Forgot to add it annoys the hell out of my why we cant get backing with all the oil companies and even Donald Trump on our doorstep

We are in one of the wealthiest city,s in the uk for fuck sake

[daytripping]

Done a bit of googling of your man Cummings, seems the last he was heard of was in 2010, bbc sport interview, pretty much agreed with everything he said.

 

Incidentally I know a fairly wealthy 50 club member and his comments pretty much echo what you say, nobody would invest with Milne still their, if he fuked off tomorrow there would be plenty of folk coming out the woodwork.

 

I think every fan should listen to the interview, it may be from 2010 but everything he says is still very relevant at the moment, probably even more so than back then, his words on the apathy in the City are so true.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aberdeen/8691840.stm

 

From the article, how very true.

 

"I just cannot see where the club is going. There seems to be no vision, ambition or enthusiasm."

[vanderark14]

 

Done a bit of googling of your man Cummings, seems the last he was heard of was in 2010, bbc sport interview, pretty much agreed with everything he said.

 

Incidentally I know a fairly wealthy 50 club member and his comments pretty much echo what you say, nobody would invest with Milne still their, if he fuked off tomorrow there would be plenty of folk coming out the woodwork.

 

I asked this question of cummings and didn't get an answer the other day.

 

If he and apparently some others are indeed looking to invest in Aberdeen if Milne leaves then why are they not more vocal about it? surely if they are that passionate about AFC then Milne wouldn't be such a big stumbling block

[diamondsr4ever]

this is the best group of players weve had in 5 seasons, and with the right manager we can take it to the next level, a few goals here and there are the right times would see us sitting in the top 3 or 4, the form of vernon has probably cost us this season, but theirs always the poitives in the likes of Mcginn, reynolds, Milsom etc, I really think were not far off being a very good side.

 

looking forward to next season and our new management team

[tup]

this is the best group of players weve had in 5 seasons, and with the right manager we can take it to the next level, a few goals here and there are the right times would see us sitting in the top 3 or 4, the form of vernon has probably cost us this season, but theirs always the poitives in the likes of Mcginn, reynolds, Milsom etc, I really think were not far off being a very good side.

 

looking forward to next season and our new management team

 

Correct, all the negativity we see on here recently only reflects on those actually posting it, there's no basis in reality for saying we are doomed etc, we have a decent side when fit.

[diamondsr4ever]

still a sneaky chance of top 6 if we beat the mini huns and then go to tannadice, however the season cant come to an end quick enough and it would be great for the new man to be in place vbefore the seasons out..

[Stoney]

Correct, all the negativity we see on here recently only reflects on those actually posting it, there's no basis in reality for saying we are doomed etc, we have a decent side when fit.

 

Half right,

 

We have a decent side, we just play far too many players out of position thus not utilizing them to there full potential.

[tup]

Aye but that can be addressed, there's little point in crying over spilt milk, the manager is gone, most folk wanted that, we have no reason for negativity to cloud matters now.

[diamondsr4ever]

probably right on that Stoney, and a new manager with a more attack minded set-up will help with that.

[diamondsr4ever]

probably right on that Stoney, and a new manager with a more attack minded set-up will help with that.

[Stoney]

Think the players we have just now are ideal for a 4-4-2 dont even mind the 4-5-1 that much away from home, was working well for us in the first half of the season!

[V for Vendetta]

The new man has a mammoth task to turn AFC around...the job has been made near impossible if the new manger has to now deal with the idiot who has taken us to these depths on a daily basis...I'm fairly confident the baffling decision to retain the Brooner will have been enough for Adams to utter the immortal line "for that reason ...I'm out"

Try as I might I just can't see it this way Redstar. I don't think Brown has been put in charge of all football operations at the club or anything like that. In fact as far as I can see has is in a non executive position with no particular responsibilities mentioned. I think he is just another board member along with the others. He's not been given the infamous "director of football" title.

 

Does anyone know if he is even being payed to be on the board??

 

I think most new managers would have no problems with Brown kicking around - any manager worth his salt will have the backbone to make his own decisions anyway.

Half right,

 

We have a decent side, we just play far too many players out of position thus not utilizing them to there full potential.

Your correct to say we keep playing them out of position and that the tactics are a problem. But that doesn't make what Tup and Diamonds were saying wrong which is we have a stronger group of players in the squad than we have had for some years.

 

Hence a new manager may get more out of this squad and with a few key adjustments there is the potential for a lot more.

[The Boofon]

do we?

 

Good to see you've mastered the new quote function so early.

[Huntlysheep]

Good post Dayts totally agree Milne has held our club back too long. I da think he's even interested in AFC tbh.

[Wayne'o]

Milnes a pr1ck end of

[elephantstone78]

 

I'm sick to the back teeth of the media and opposition fans force fed opinion that we're stuck in the 1980's

We're not.

Half the support are not old enough to remember it or old enough to have seen it.

 

Acceptable to me?

 

top 4 in league

European qualification.

Cup final every 5 years or so.

Cup WIN every 10 years max.

Exactly. A realistic post for a change. We dont expect to be winning european trophies anymore or even winning the league. Celtic have 40 odd thousand season ticket holders compared to our 7 and a half thousand. They can strangle the life out the league by investing in better foreigners and by snapping up any decent domestic players usually for nothing eg Mulgrew thus weakening other teams/rivals. I dont like it but it's the truth. Second place however and winning a cup every 5 never mind 10 should not be some crazy deluded dream. Making Europe either by a cup run or league position should also be a realistic goal each season.

If anyone thinks that is not realistic they are deluded as if we dont qualify for europe then another team has and that would be a motherwell or a utd etc and do we then consider them to be bigger or better clubs than us. They are just as skint and have equitable training (lack of) facilities and a lower budget.

It's easy to blame Milne he is the head of the plc and will therefore get flak when the team fail and the team will get the credit when they do well. That;s what happens with football clubs. A genuine question - is he so different to the heads of other scottish clubs; Petrie at Hibs, Johnson at Killie or Thompson at Utd ? From what I read and see and from speaking to friends who support these teams there does not seem to be a great deal of difference. We would all like a magic wand to be waved and our debts wiped out and millions spent on better training facilities, higher wages to attract better players and a transfer kitty to spend on new players. Well it doesnt happen at other clubs and it won't happen at ours. Sorry.

What has Milne done that a different chairman would not have. Most of our previous managers stretching back to Paterson and Scovdahl through to McGhee and Brown met with majority supporter approval. The players and managers in my view have failed over the past 15 or so years. Milne replaced dud managers as and when required after giving them all a decent amount of time to remedy the mess they got themselves and the club in and the only decision that could be classed as brave was replacing Calderwood as he was the only one that was presiding over a team not mired at the bottom of the league when punted. The board gambled and it's another argument altogether whether that gamble needed to be taken or has worked.

In my humble opinion the team is decent just needs some more quality mainly in attacking midfield/striking positions and we're there. Considine, Anderson and Reynolds are better than the defences of every other team bar Celtic and possibly Hearts. Jack and Shaunessay have great potential, Hayes can be a game changer and McGinn is one of the best forwards in the league. Not too shabby a spine of a side.

Anyway, I am just in the process of acquiring my ticket for tannadice and will gladly continue the debate with fellow dons fans over a watered down pint in one of dundee's many many shit hole drinking dens!