super_al Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 From the moment I saw big josh during our tour of England I posted on here that he was rubbish. Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I will lead the revolution. Owner, player, coach. I just watched Semi Pro so I feel inspired. Link to comment
dervish Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I hate it when our support is either so old, or so pig headed, that their opinion is the only one that is correct. If Rocket, or anyone, can convince me of Milsom and his superior qualities then I can hold my hand up. I'm here to be educated.I liked Milsom when he first joined.Looked a skilful player, with good passing.But injuries have taken their toll and he neither looks fit or the same player that he did when he first arrived.I'd release him, for no other reason than you know another bad injury is around the corner, and we can ill afford to have the number of injury prone players in the squad that we do.Naysmith, Milsom, Hughes, Pawlett, Osborne.....the list goes on.Release all 7 players that are out of contract to give McInnes more freedom to bring in new players. He has a neat touch and can pass a ball (backward) 10 yards.He creates the square root of zero and scores even less.Perennially injured.He is superior to Magennis though.But then again, so is my dining table. Not that I know fuck all but IMHO a fit(otherwise no point) and match sharp Milsom is a good asset. He can see and deliver a pass, with a decent team around him (especially in front) I think he could be important for us. If it looks like he's not going to be injured all the time then surely worth a cheap deal? Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Thought we'd at least get the customary new manager rebound... I had a fair wedge on Aberdeen doubled with Sunderland this week! Gutted! Seriously though, I think a large scale clear out is required. If this group of players can't lift themselves for a new manager, then they're finished (either that or they just don't like McInnes). Zero character and zero fight. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Can't score against a team that has shipped ten goals in their previous three games? Story of the season. Clear-out definitely required. Fallon, Vernon, Magennis, Rae, Hughes, Pawlett, Osborne, Naysmith - can all go. Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Tells you all you need to know about our players, new manager bounce ? Impossible with that shower Link to comment
Henry Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Villa are near bottom of the EPL yet would destroy Aberdeen without getting into second gear, we're so far away from being a half decent team it's frightening. A Eddie Turnbull style clear out is required. Is that the same Aston Villa who've spent nearly £25m since Lambert came in? Bizarre comparison. Link to comment
Site Sponsor RTYD Posted April 23, 2013 Site Sponsor Share Posted April 23, 2013 A terrible game. It's his first so no knee jerk reaction to it, but very concerned that we continue to have everyone back for corners. Link to comment
tup Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Glad I was forced to miss out on this garbage. I've not changed my opinion of McHunnis. He should be nowhere near the dugout of a club like Aberdeen. However, we are stuck with him for now it would seem. It looks as if it's going to be another McGhee-esque spell for the club of lurching from one disaster to the next, I see absolutely nothing to suggest this is the man to take the club forward in any way. 1 Link to comment
Dynamo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Still can't get over how shit it was. Did we even have a meaningful shot/chance at goal? Link to comment
a don in oz Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I don't know if you can have any opinion on McInnes based on that. His comments after the game pretty much sounded like he was using that game to see what his job was. Link to comment
tup Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 My opinion of him is based on his career up to now, not on one game last night. He's a staunch sevconian with a reputation for dull tactics who just got sacked for being the worst manager in the history of his last club. Which has eerie echoes of Mark McGhee. Link to comment
Jute Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 A terrible game. It's his first so no knee jerk reaction to it, but very concerned that we continue to have everyone back for corners. And 6 outside the box for our own. Link to comment
buchanskii Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 A frightening lack of ability on display yesterday... Set piece delivery was horrific Distribution from the goalie/back four was amateurish Midfield players had no composure and acted if the ball was a ticking bomb. Jonny hayes is playing with zero confidence and only beat his man once. The less said about Magennis, the better. Link to comment
Kilkito Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 The interesting thing is that a lot of people finally seem to realise, who didn't previously, that our squad is essentially shite, to often on here did I read people saying that Brown is leaving a good strong base to build on, its pish, we need a new goalkeeper, defenders, midfielders and attackers, we have at least 3 players that can't run the length of themselves(Rae, Hughes and Naismith), and another 3, that get injured when they think about playing a game(Pawlett, Milsom and Osbourne) a striker who can't score(Vernon), another one that can't run(Fallon), and another one that has literally no idea what he's supposed to be doing(Magennis). Cammy Smith looked like a ray of hope, so he was dropped and has dissappeared without trace, Anderson as someone indicated previoulsy is a shadow of the player he was, and will only get worse, and Hayes, well, he can be great, but will play 7 pish games in a row after it. Its not disastrous,in an ideal world, my starting 11 next season would include from the current squad, Considine, Reynolds, Shaugnessy, Jack, Hayes, Smith and McGinn, and thats it, the rest are either pish, too injury prone or past it and we have no strength in depth whatsoever. DM has his work cut out, but at least he knows it now. Hopefully he will already be identifying what areas to strengthen, and making preliminary moves to do so. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 The interesting thing is that a lot of people finally seem to realise, who didn't previously, that our squad is essentially shite, to often on here did I read people saying that Brown is leaving a good strong base to build on, its pish, we need a new goalkeeper, defenders, midfielders and attackers, we have at least 3 players that can't run the length of themselves(Rae, Hughes and Naismith), and another 3, that get injured when they think about playing a game(Pawlett, Milsom and Osbourne) a striker who can't score(Vernon), another one that can't run(Fallon), and another one that has literally no idea what he's supposed to be doing(Magennis). Cammy Smith looked like a ray of hope, so he was dropped and has dissappeared without trace, Anderson as someone indicated previoulsy is a shadow of the player he was, and will only get worse, and Hayes, well, he can be great, but will play 7 pish games in a row after it. Its not disastrous,in an ideal world, my starting 11 next season would include from the current squad, Considine, Reynolds, Shaugnessy, Jack, Hayes, Smith and McGinn, and thats it, the rest are either pish, too injury prone or past it and we have no strength in depth whatsoever. DM has his work cut out, but at least he knows it now. Hopefully he will already be identifying what areas to strengthen, and making preliminary moves to do so. Pretty much. The squad is no where near as good as I thought it was earlier in the season. We'd be better off letting all of the out of contract players leave. Link to comment
a don in oz Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 My opinion of him is based on his career up to now, not on one game last night. He's a staunch sevconian with a reputation for dull tactics who just got sacked for being the worst manager in the history of his last club. Which has eerie echoes of Mark McGhee. Oh I think he's vastly overrated by the media (and some on here) and think he was a crap choice... very in similar vein to McGhee. But he's here now and you can't judge his Aberdeen career on that game, or even the rest of this season. What he takes from these games, and does in the close season and next season is where you can judge him for us. Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 League tables dont lie, Brown is just as horrific as Mcghee and has left us right in the mire, Seriously strengthening required (Mentally as well as playing staff) this summer. I dont envy DM's job one bit, Sad thing about this is it could have all been avoided in 2008. 1 1 Link to comment
tup Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Brown was not just as horrific as McGhee no matter how many times you want to try and repeat that pish based on errant statistical nonsense. McGhee was much, much worse than Brown. Link to comment
thefletch24 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Think last night was evidence that it is the Players, and not the Manager that is the Problem.............Concerning for me is that I feel the Younger Players are not going to get much of a Look in, Cammy Smith for me is one of best young prospects in Scotland yet I fear he is not going to get much of a look in. Manager has seen some Players last night, hope he freshens it up for the remaining games and gives Smith, the young Keeper, Low, McManus etc etc a chance to show what they can do...... Also, after saying it for ages on here, last night was Proof that Reynolds' Distribution is a disgrace and is one of the major reasons why it was he and not Aberdeen who got the better part of the deal they made with him. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 absolutely zero confidence. no one wants the ball, they all run away when we have a throw in. a couple of passes and it falls to bits, no one making space. once they've got rid of the ball as quickly as they can, that's their bit over so they stand still and the ball goes out of play or is hoofed up the park as we gradually run out of options. scared shitless the lot of them. Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Brown was not just as horrific as McGhee no matter how many times you want to try and repeat that pish based on errant statistical nonsense. McGhee was much, much worse than Brown. 9th 9th 9th 9th Seems fairly consistent to me. Or are we going to be a better 9th this season than we were the previous 3? Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Villa are near bottom of the EPL yet would destroy Aberdeen without getting into second gear, we're so far away from being a half decent team it's frightening. A Eddie Turnbull style clear out is required. Is that the same Aston Villa who've spent nearly £25m since Lambert came in? Bizarre comparison. We assembled teams in the past on a shoestring that could have not only competed with EPL teams but beat them on a regular basis, I don't believe it simply comes down to throwing money at the problem. Lambert has shown you can spend a lot of money and still not buy success. A team needs a heart and a belief, we have neither. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Think last night was evidence that it is the Players, and not the Manager that is the Problem.............Concerning for me is that I feel the Younger Players are not going to get much of a Look in, Cammy Smith for me is one of best young prospects in Scotland yet I fear he is not going to get much of a look in. Manager has seen some Players last night, hope he freshens it up for the remaining games and gives Smith, the young Keeper, Low, McManus etc etc a chance to show what they can do...... Also, after saying it for ages on here, last night was Proof that Reynolds' Distribution is a disgrace and is one of the major reasons why it was he and not Aberdeen who got the better part of the deal they made with him. As in the players that the (former) manager brought in?? What is the story with Reynolds hoofing it none stop. Does my head in. Surely he can just pass the ball 5 yards instead of lumping in 50 yards to the other goalie. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Brown was not just as horrific as McGhee no matter how many times you want to try and repeat that pish based on errant statistical nonsense. McGhee was much, much worse than Brown. 9th 9th 9th 9th Seems fairly consistent to me. Or are we going to be a better 9th this season than we were the previous 3? 9th this year would be even worse than previous considering there's no huns. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Villa are near bottom of the EPL yet would destroy Aberdeen without getting into second gear, we're so far away from being a half decent team it's frightening. A Eddie Turnbull style clear out is required. Is that the same Aston Villa who've spent nearly £25m since Lambert came in? Bizarre comparison. We assembled teams in the past on a shoestring that could have not only competed with EPL teams but beat them on a regular basis, I don't believe it simply comes down to throwing money at the problem. Lambert has shown you can spend a lot of money and still not buy success. A team needs a heart and a belief, we have neither. WHEN!? Link to comment
tup Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 9th 9th 9th 9th Seems fairly consistent to me. Or are we going to be a better 9th this season than we were the previous 3? I've explained it all to you before, you may fool some people with your bare stats, you are not fooling me. McGhee was sacked when we were 11th, and about to go 12th, and damned fine you know it. Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Brown was not just as horrific as McGhee no matter how many times you want to try and repeat that pish based on errant statistical nonsense. McGhee was much, much worse than Brown. 9th 9th 9th 9th Seems fairly consistent to me. Or are we going to be a better 9th this season than we were the previous 3? 9th this year would be even worse than previous considering there's no huns. Aye, could even be 10th, Which would have had us gripping on for dear life as there would have been no dundee in the league to keep us up! Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Aye. McGhee made a fair cunt of it. The thing that always makes me fully appreciate how shite he was is the fact that he was desperate for Kerr and McDonald to stay Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Villa are near bottom of the EPL yet would destroy Aberdeen without getting into second gear, we're so far away from being a half decent team it's frightening. A Eddie Turnbull style clear out is required. Is that the same Aston Villa who've spent nearly £25m since Lambert came in? Bizarre comparison. We assembled teams in the past on a shoestring that could have not only competed with EPL teams but beat them on a regular basis, I don't believe it simply comes down to throwing money at the problem. Lambert has shown you can spend a lot of money and still not buy success. A team needs a heart and a belief, we have neither. WHEN!? A fair chunk of the 80's for a start! Link to comment
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