Mcginn Centre Forward

[fine-n-dandy]

McInnes needs to get a grip, he needs play our newly discovered striker in the fkn middle. The striker that was transformed from being a winger because he'd not had much (if any) success out wide. It's one of the few good things Craig Brown did & it was an ingenious decision by Broon.

 

Moving McGinn out wide (or all over the place) just to try & prove his shite signing Zola will come good is nothing short of farcical.

McGinn kept us up last year more or less. He was the only decent thing about last season & our first 20 goal striker in fk knows how long.

 

Good few other tactical fk ups (imo) from McInnes so far. Namely pawlett & Hayes on the wrong sides but fkn about with McGinn is just taking it way too far.

 

Get McGinn through the middle.

 

 

[Huntlysheep]

Agreed looks a very quality player if we are to fulfil our potential we need him firing cause no one else looks likely.

[Dynamo]

Pretty much everyone will agree with this.

[Sonoftherock]

Get McGinn through the middle.

 

THIS!

 

McGinn is our only player capable of scoring regularly. Build the team round McGinn - not a couple of neeps like Vernon or Zola!

[fine-n-dandy]

Said this numerous times throughout the game last night. Wasted where he is being played.

 

 

It's fkn criminal.

 

Thought it deserved it's own thread just to highlight the importance of fk up McInnes is making.

 

He's starting down a dodgey road by doing this

[barassie_afc]

if this continues expect a transfer request to a championship side in January

[fine-n-dandy]

if this continues expect a transfer request to a championship side in January

Problem is that McGinn has said he's just happy to be playing anywhere to help the team.

 

He's not going to tell McInnes to play him through the middle, we are going to have to make sure McInnes plays him there.

 

If he persists with this then he'll be hounded out of the club just like McGhee was, only worse because McInnes was never a playing legend for us

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

I thought Zola and Vernon did a great job up front together in the 2nd half. Could see a real partnership blossoming there. We have no space for McGinn through the middle

[fine-n-dandy]

I thought Zola and Vernon did a great job up front together in the 2nd half. Could see a real partnership blossoming there. We have no space for McGinn through the middle

I thought so as well.

 

Close the thread, don't know what I was thinking.

[Stoney]

In the same token theres a notable difference in his effort levels when hes not playing where he wants to play.

 

Last night certainly not playing for the team either three times he chose to shoot from an impossible to score from position instead of playing in a team mate.

 

Not sure why people feel the need to make excuses for his terrible performances.

[barassie_afc]

Stop fishing

[Stoney]

Managers picked him to playing a position, so instead of playing 100% he sulks and slopes in and out of the game.

 

He wasnt signed by brown initially as a striker, only played there because the rest of them were so shit.

[Stoney]

Also like how other players have been asked to play in a different role over the past few years and have struggled but get zero slack on here, but the second golden boy starts misfiring its the managers fault.

 

As many said on here before he's a professional player, he should be able to play in any attacking role, or is that only the argument when you dont like the player in question?

Hypocrites

[Sonoftherock]

Also like how other players have been asked to play in a different role over the past few years and have struggled but get zero slack on here, but the second golden boy starts misfiring its the managers fault.

 

As many said on here before he's a professional player, he should be able to play in any attacking role, or is that only the argument when you dont like the player in question?

 

Hypocrites

 

I know you are fishing here, but I'll take the bite.

 

The main point is that McGinn has been very effective as centre forward previously. These mysterious other players you speak of were probably shite in their favoured positions too!

 

The fans just want McGinn played in his best position. It's very frustrating when he's sent out wide. He's not effective out there. He failed as a winger at Celtic, then at Brentford too. It was only after getting a run upfront at Aberdeen that his career took off. The fans reaction is just frustration, because we're not scoring goals right now... by moving our most prolific striker out wide, McInnes is just creating a new problem, where there wasn't one previously!

[Stoney]

I know you are fishing here, but I'll take the bite.

 

The main point is that McGinn has been very effective as centre forward previously. These mysterious other players you speak of were probably shite in their favoured positions too!

 

The fans just want McGinn played in his best position. It's very frustrating when he's sent out wide. He's not effective out there. He failed as a winger at Celtic, then at Brentford too. It was only after getting a run upfront at Aberdeen that his career took off. The fans reaction is just frustration, because we're not scoring goals right now... by moving our most prolific striker out wide, McInnes is just creating a new problem, where there wasn't one previously!

 

Not fishing at all,

 

Reynolds, Considine, Shaunessy, Clark, Magennis, Vernon etc etc all slated for playing badly out of position but thats never taken into account.

 

He has played in periods as an out and out striker but so often has made the wrong decision. I dare say that our strikers were starved of decent service last night, but then it made even more sense for Mcginn (who has a very good cross on him) went out wide to try and get some decent balls into the box (but all to often he chose to shoot for himself)

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

McGinn played fairly well out wide in the first half of the season with Fraser on the other side and Vernon through the middle. Vernon was the only one honking out of that 3.

 

McGinn was only properly pushed out wide last night once the re-shuffle after the injuries happened. Pawlett went into central midfield and we decided Zola and Vernon was the correct decision up front. Wow.

 

I am actually shocked by how bad Zola is. League 2 must be a really really bad standard. Kari Arneson surely tore that league apart last season.

[Sonoftherock]

Not fishing at all,

 

Reynolds, Considine, Shaunessy, Clark, Magennis, Vernon etc etc all slated for playing badly out of position but thats never taken into account.

 

He has played in periods as an out and out striker but so often has made the wrong decision. I dare say that our strikers were starved of decent service last night, but then it made even more sense for Mcginn (who has a very good cross on him) went out wide to try and get some decent balls into the box (but all to often he chose to shoot for himself)

 

Stoney you are just working an agenda here. You and your boys seem to be talking about McGinns poor start to the season a fair bit - usually linked to some sort of tenuous argument that Magennis isn't being given a fair go.

 

Clark and Magennis are just shite. Regardless of where they're played.

 

Considine took some criticism in his early career, but I can't recall him taking much abuse for playing fullback, without mentioning, or drawing attention to the caveat that he is obviously a centre half playing out of position. Same situation with Reynolds and Shaughnessy. Vernon has been poor wherever he's played for about the last 18 months.

[Stoney]

McGinn played fairly well out wide in the first half of the season with Fraser on the other side and Vernon through the middle. Vernon was the only one honking out of that 3.

 

McGinn was only properly pushed out wide last night once the re-shuffle after the injuries happened. Pawlett went into central midfield and we decided Zola and Vernon was the correct decision up front. Wow.

 

I am actually shocked by how bad Zola is. League 2 must be a really really bad standard. Kari Arneson surely tore that league apart last season.

 

Looks totally unfit, his shirt was soaking with sweat after 20 minutes.

 

His attempts at heading were awful, some of the worst i have seen, then the next minute hes taking the ball down beautifully on his chest.

 

I've seen flashes that suggest hes not shit, but after his heading attempts last night im starting to think otherwise!

[fine-n-dandy]

Not fishing at all,

 

Reynolds, Considine, Shaunessy, Clark, Magennis, Vernon etc etc all slated for playing badly out of position but thats never taken into account.

 

He has played in periods as an out and out striker but so often has made the wrong decision. I dare say that our strikers were starved of decent service last night, but then it made even more sense for Mcginn (who has a very good cross on him) went out wide to try and get some decent balls into the box (but all to often he chose to shoot for himself)

 

 

Don't think Reynolds has ever been slated. Even at LB.

Considine was pretty much only slated by MT (especially at LB under JC when JC publicly & directly made him the scape goat)

 

Clark hasn't got a good position. He deservedly got slated at EVERY position

[Dynamo]

Looks totally unfit, his shirt was soaking with sweat after 20 minutes.

 

His attempts at heading were awful, some of the worst i have seen, then the next minute hes taking the ball down beautifully on his chest.

 

I've seen flashes that suggest hes not shit, but after his heading attempts last night im starting to think otherwise!

 

Might have been something to do with the rain that

[Stoney]

Stoney you are just working an agenda here. You and your boys seem to be talking about McGinns poor start to the season a fair bit - usually linked to some sort of tenuous argument that Magennis isn't being given a fair go.

 

Clark and Magennis are just shite. Regardless of where they're played.

 

Considine took some criticism in his early career, but I can't recall him taking much abuse for playing fullback, without mentioning, or drawing attention to the caveat that he is obviously a centre half playing out of position. Same situation with Reynolds and Shaughnessy. Vernon has been poor wherever he's played for about the last 18 months.

 

My boys? Who are they like? Millertime? Good Een

 

Not at all im prepared to give all players benefit of the doubt this season, just pointing out the sheer hypocrisy that we give some players a chance and some just get lynched. Vernons hardly played a game as an out and out striker in that period - again he was more of an attacking midfielder last night, but i dont see any shouts for him to be playing as an out and out striker.

 

His scoring record in his first 18 months here was exceptional, till he was shunted around by brown........but that wasnt a valid excuse last season, but seems to be the line being trotted out for mcginn.

[Stoney]

Don't think Reynolds has ever been slated. Even at LB.

Considine was pretty much only slated by MT (especially at LB under JC when JC publicly & directly made him the scape goat)

 

Clark hasn't got a good position. He deservedly got slated at EVERY position

 

Reynolds was given pelters when he first came up here on loan, absolutely slated on here. Clark played well in central midfield last season, but again another player who can do no right in the fans eyes.

[Stoney]

Might have been something to do with the rain that

 

Didnt seem to have the same effect on anybody elses shirt

[Sonoftherock]

My boys? Who are they like? Millertime? Good Een

 

Not at all im prepared to give all players benefit of the doubt this season, just pointing out the sheer hypocrisy that we give some players a chance and some just get lynched. Vernons hardly played a game as an out and out striker in that period - again he was more of an attacking midfielder last night, but i dont see any shouts for him to be playing as an out and out striker.

 

His scoring record in his first 18 months here was exceptional, till he was shunted around by brown........but that wasnt a valid excuse last season, but seems to be the line being trotted out for mcginn.

 

Generally speaking, I think most of those criticised have deserved it. Obviously on any forum you get idiots who will slaughter players regardless.

 

Supporters are only human and because his brilliant season last year is so fresh in the memory, most are willing to forgive a slow first few games of the season. However, if McGinn plays as poorly as Vernon has for 18 months, I can guarantee you he will be criticised on here. Last season, for at least the first 3 months or so, Vernon wasn't getting too much stick. Most folk were a bit worried, but I think many of thought that he just 'needed a goal' or a bit of luck, to get him going. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case - he's just been totally rotten wherever he's played for pretty much 18 months.

[Sonoftherock]

Reynolds was given pelters when he first came up here on loan, absolutely slated on here. Clark played well in central midfield last season, but again another player who can do no right in the fans eyes.

 

On a scale of 0 to Jamie Langfield, the criticism Reynolds received when he was on loan here barely even registers. To say he was absolutely slated is nonsense.

[fine-n-dandy]

Reynolds was given pelters when he first came up here on loan, absolutely slated on here. Clark played well in central midfield last season, but again another player who can do no right in the fans eyes.

Clark had one good game that I remember & that only sticks out because it was against the now defunct Rangers, so obviously not last season.

 

Clark is slated because for the most part he is utter horse manure & was signed on a crazy 3 year deal (deal not his fault obviously but that fact only adds to the frustration regarding him)

[barassie_afc]

Think Stoney has been on the fishing bong

[Stoney]

Generally speaking, I think most of those criticised have deserved it. Obviously on any forum you get idiots who will slaughter players regardless.

 

Supporters are only human and because his brilliant season last year is so fresh in the memory, most are willing to forgive a slow first few games of the season. However, if McGinn plays as poorly as Vernon has for 18 months, I can guarantee you he will be criticised on here. Last season, for at least the first 3 months or so, Vernon wasn't getting too much stick. Most folk were a bit worried, but I think many of thought that he just 'needed a goal' or a bit of luck, to get him going. Unfortunately that hasn't been the case - he's just been totally rotten wherever he's played for pretty much 18 months.

 

 

You didnt answer my question,

 

Which boys. Another line trotted out from you when you dont like my argument.

[Stoney]

Reynolds: Poor distribution as per usual

 

Reynolds i think it was under pressure to clear. His judgement is shocking

 

for all the fans of Reynolds i think they'd agree he was pish yet again

 

What was Reynolds doing for the goal!

 

Reynolds wasn't great but at least he was coming short for the goal kicks as he knows Langfield can't kick

 

reynolds absolutely shite. shocking performance, he looked a compete fanny who was completely disinterested

 

Reynolds - Was good defensively, but his distribution is poor

 

Anderson and Reynolds are shite

[barassie_afc]

are those your quotes stoney ?