Long Term Unemployed To Be Made To Pickup Litter

[terenceandphilip]

about time too.

 

I love the Tories sometimes. Labour would be increasing their benefits and saying 'oooh what a shame'

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24327470

 

shame its a bbc link as there's no user comments. They only allow comments on boring stories and then completely over-moderate it anyway. I got a comment removed on an independence article for saying Aberdeen never got any money spent on it compared to Edinburgh and Glasgow. I complained and got told it wasn't relevant. WTF? Apart from it certainly IS relevant, who are they to be hovvering over user comments with an over zealous 'delete' button?

 

 

[BrianFaePerth]

Hope your back is up to it Buck

[daytripping]

Should have happened a long time ago, same goes for prisoners, get them in a chain gang cleaning up roadsides.

 

I would make it kick in before 2 years, 6 Months is enough.

[Bluto10]

At least it'll keep harcus off here during the day

[K-9]

about time too.

 

I love the Tories sometimes. Labour would be increasing their benefits and saying 'oooh what a shame'

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24327470

 

shame its a bbc link as there's no user comments. They only allow comments on boring stories and then completely over-moderate it anyway. I got a comment removed on an independence article for saying Aberdeen never got any money spent on it compared to Edinburgh and Glasgow. I complained and got told it wasn't relevant. WTF? Apart from it certainly IS relevant, who are they to be hovvering over user comments with an over zealous 'delete' button?

Daily Mail does!!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438020/George-Osbornes-work-dole-plan-Pick-litter-clean-graffiti-cook-elderly-welfare-benefits.html

[tup]

Minijc will be as fit as a butcher's dog.

[fatjim]

They should increase fines for littering or even force people to clean up litter if they are caught littering. Make money from cunts who think it is acceptable to drop litter. They can get a fine and clean it up. That fine could go to paying benefits.

[madjockmcferson]

So, you are all happy about forced labor and street cleaners being made redundant?

[terenceandphilip]

So, you are all happy about forced labor ?

 

 

in this case, yes. Very.

[Henry]

So, you are all happy about forced labor and street cleaners being made redundant?

 

I'm not happy about your Americanised spelling of labour.

[madjockmcferson]

I have an auto-spell check. Live with it.

 

Benefits are earned benefits that you paid into whilst working. You delayed consumption of that money in case you needed it in the event of becoming unemployed. You earned them and should not have to work for them.

[Dynamo]

So, you are all happy about forced labor and street cleaners being made redundant?

 

 

'forced labour'.....or 'earning your benefits'....can be spun either way.

[terenceandphilip]

I have an auto-spell check. Live with it.

 

Benefits are earned benefits that you paid into whilst working. You delayed consumption of that money in case you needed it in the event of becoming unemployed. You earned them and should not have to work for them.

 

 

and the can't work, won't work?

[newcastlered]

Something has to end this something for nothing culture whether it's this or not it has to end.

[tup]

Could just kill the long term unemployed.

 

War on fecklessness, surefire vote winner.

[ericblack4boss]

I think they should be made to cut gorse, or pull ragwort doing either of those jobs would t be far more beneficial.

[daytripping]

So, you are all happy about forced labor and street cleaners being made redundant?

 

Yeah, why not.

 

They should also do working folks gardens, that would be cool.

[Jonty]

So, you are all happy about forced labor and street cleaners being made redundant?

 

Forced Labour?

 

You only have to do it if you are taking money off the state, nobody is forcing you to go and collect your giro.

[tup]

Could make them wash folks cars at the traffic lights in winter when the car gets dirty all the time.

[AndrewW]

I have an auto-spell check. Live with it.

 

Benefits are earned benefits that you paid into whilst working. You delayed consumption of that money in case you needed it in the event of becoming unemployed. You earned them and should not have to work for them.

 

Then scrap benefits and cut taxes! Solves all problems.

[Foster14]

I have an auto-spell check. Live with it.

 

Benefits are earned benefits that you paid into whilst working. You delayed consumption of that money in case you needed it in the event of becoming unemployed. You earned them and should not have to work for them.

 

What are you on about min?

 

This is going to be able-to-work, but long out of work people. They will be getting a benefit called Job Seekers Allowance, and the main criteria to be eligible for this, is that you should be actively looking for a job. If you are in such a boat, and you are long time unemployed, you should be jumping at the chance to get some form of work placement to enhance skills and show employability. If you look beyond the headlines there are 3 options anyway:

 

"To still qualify for jobseeker's allowance they will have three options - work placements, such as cleaning up litter; daily visits to a job centre; or taking part in compulsory training, for example, to improve their literacy."

 

The nature of the people this is aimed at would clearly be the Spud's of the world, those who do the bare minimum to qualify for the benefits in question but really have no appetite to get in to work. If you're unwilling to take on compulsory training (which comes at a price to someone and it won't be them), then you should be forced to do something to earn the benefit.

[Henry]

Could make them wash folks cars at the traffic lights in winter when the car gets dirty all the time.

 

That's all very well, but what about places that don't have traffic lights?

[madjockmcferson]

Less than 1% of benefit claimants have never worked. Most benefit claimants are short term unemployed who have earned those benefits through paying taxes. This is a sledgehammer to crack a nut that doesn't exist.

[Jonty]

Less than 1% of benefit claimants have never worked. Most benefit claimants are short term unemployed who have earned those benefits through paying taxes. This is a sledgehammer to crack a nut that doesn't exist.

 

It probably wont save any money, and may up even actually costing money to enforce and police.

 

The message it sends to lazy f4ckers is where the value in the policy lies, you don't get benefit anymore if you're capable of working but choose not to. Where's the problem there?

[daytripping]

Less than 1% of benefit claimants have never worked. Most benefit claimants are short term unemployed who have earned those benefits through paying taxes. This is a sledgehammer to crack a nut that doesn't exist.

 

Did you read the details?

 

It doesn't kick in till you've been out of work for 2 years.

[BrianFaePerth]

Less than 1% of benefit claimants have never worked. Most benefit claimants are short term unemployed who have earned those benefits through paying taxes. This is a sledgehammer to crack a nut that doesn't exist.

 

People like Buck need dealt with.

[Foster14]

Less than 1% of benefit claimants have never worked. Most benefit claimants are short term unemployed who have earned those benefits through paying taxes. This is a sledgehammer to crack a nut that doesn't exist.

 

As dayts has already intimated, might be worthwhile reading up on something before you criticise it. These are long term-unemployed, the people it seem are unemployable due to not having sufficient skills or job shortages in the area. If someone takes umbrage with being made to take compulsory training or being involved in work placements after such a period of unemployment, I'd query their true motivation in finding employment.

[madjockmcferson]

There is little or no evidence that suggests forcing people into work is beneficial. They are often forced into jobs that are low paying (so they remain on benefits) or they are forced into working instead of doing something that will benefit them (and society) long term.

 

Excuse my skepticism but this 'job training' will amount to little more than low paid, low quality undependable jobs.

 

One of the best way to get people into good jobs and to improve themselves is to support them and get them educated and all this system will do is to prevent people from improving themselves by forcing them to take a shitty, low paid, low skills, undependable job.

[Clagnuts]

There is little or no evidence that suggests forcing people into work is beneficial. They are often forced into jobs that are low paying (so they remain on benefits) or they are forced into working instead of doing something that will benefit them (and society) long term.

 

Excuse my skepticism but this 'job training' will amount to little more than low paid, low quality undependable jobs.

 

One of the best way to get people into good jobs and to improve themselves is to support them and get them educated and all this system will do is to prevent people from improving themselves by forcing them to take a shitty, low paid, low skills, undependable job.

I take it you're not working at the moment?

[tup]

With a name like Mad Jock McPherson it's no surprise you are struggling for work.