Is The Word "hun" Sectarian?

[Ingolfsson]

I am in an online argument with a hun acquaintance. He's claiming that the term hun is sectarian. I think he's talking shite.

 

For me, hun is a derogatory term which refers to followers of Rangers, and now sevco. I have seen claims which say it refers to the German roots of protestants. I think that's faux outrage bollocks, the usual two wrongs make a right OF mentality.

 

I'd call sevco or the followers huns every time, but would never refer to a protestant as a hun. It's not in the same league as "fenian".

 

What do folk think?

[ChutneyLove]

I think you should get rid of your hun acquaintance.

[tup]

Do I not like huns.

 

One single bit.

[Ingolfsson]

I think you should get rid of your hun acquaintance.

 

That could very well be the outcome here.

[dave_min]

It depends on the context it's being used in.

[Bluto10]

who gives a shit.

this stuff is only relevant to poverty stricken poorly educated people with nothing else to trouble their pathetic little lives.

 

im surprised this shit is even acknowledged; to me it doesnt exist its that insignificant

[Ingolfsson]

It depends on the context it's being used in.

 

In what context would it be sectarian?

[The Boofon]

who gives a shit.

this stuff is only relevant to poverty stricken poorly educated people with nothing else to trouble their pathetic little lives.

 

im surprised this shit is even acknowledged; to me it doesnt exist its that insignificant

 

 

Wow.

 

#spellingiscorrect

 

You have a PM.

[dave_min]

 

I'll rape you mum and your Granny before chopping their tits off and leaving them on your dirty Hun mantelpiece .

 

Seems ok to me.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

I always took it as being a reference to the whole rule britannia (irony alert) royalty thing, who were of course, German.

 

Put it this way, it is as offensive to me as referring to a Tim, which to me simply infers an Irish person (and in case anyone is interested and wants to lecture me about the difference between Northern and Southern Ireland they can F*ck off).

 

McCoist, you hun cunt = inoffensive

Stokes you tim cunt = inoffensive

Lennon you ginger cunt = inoffensive.

Murray you completely immobile cunt = ok possibly bordering on the edges of offensivity but funny none the less.

 

Glad to help.

[Dynamo]

Anyone who finds anything offensive is a complete faggot. Hope that helps.

[The Boofon]

Anyone who finds anything offensive is a complete faggot. Hope that helps.

 

Cheers you hun bastard.

[spamspamspam]

Playing devils advocate for a second I suppose, if you're that way inclined, you could claim it is sectarian in a way as sectarianism can be between two groups and not just two faiths but taking that to the letter would also mean that any sevco supporter calling an Aberdeen supporter a fan of bestiality sectarian as well as they are saying that the difference between a dandy and a sevconian is one fucks sheep and the other doesnt, a social divide so to speak.

 

If however, as I suspect, your sevco chum is claiming that hun is somehow derogatory to his protestant blue nose background then he is indeed spikin shite. As far as I know the fans of the defunct club were branded huns because of their love for the German monarchy that sits in a palace in London and not because of anything else. It then stuck because they were also stinking barbarians and it fits even more now as like the original huns they too were defeated but refused to fully go away.

 

It has nothing to do with religion though, if it did every protestant would be called a hun no matter what team they supported.

[Dynamo]

 

Cheers you hun bastard.

 

Reported

[Tommy]

 

Reported

Quite right.

Nae need for that boot in the baws.

[Pash]

My hun mate was saying yesterday he found us singing 'We're red, you're dead' etc on Sky on Monday night disgraceful and offensive.

 

:mccoist:

[The Boofon]

 

Reported

 

 

Quite right.

Nae need for that boot in the baws.

 

 

 

I think that's the only thing that would ever offend me as well to be honest.

 

Imagine being called a hun. Fuck that.

[Ingolfsson]

Playing devils advocate for a second I suppose, if you're that way inclined, you could claim it is sectarian in a way as sectarianism can be between two groups and not just two faiths but taking that to the letter would also mean that any sevco supporter calling an Aberdeen supporter a fan of bestiality sectarian as well as they are saying that the difference between a dandy and a sevconian is one fucks sheep and the other doesnt, a social divide so to speak.

 

If however, as I suspect, your sevco chum is claiming that hun is somehow derogatory to his protestant blue nose background then he is indeed spikin shite. As far as I know the fans of the defunct club were branded huns because of their love for the German monarchy that sits in a palace in London and not because of anything else. It then stuck because they were also stinking barbarians and it fits even more now as like the original huns they too were defeated but refused to fully go away.

 

It has nothing to do with religion though, if it did every protestant would be called a hun no matter what team they supported.

 

Aye, this has been the basis of my argument, which has been a fucking one-sided affair I am pleased to report.

 

Lesson learned for this hun

[Tommy]

 

 

 

 

 

I think that's the only thing that would ever offend me as well to be honest.

 

Imagine being called a hun. Fuck that.

It's not too late to apologise.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

 

I am in an online argument with a hun acquaintance. He's claiming that the term hun is sectarian. I think he's talking shite.

 

You are correct. The term originally appeared in English newspapers, when the huns were called "huns" (invaders) after one of the many times they rioted when down in England for a friendly. There is a wealth of anecdotal evidence online from this, especially from English football fans.

 

Ask your hun acquaitance who the term is sectarian against.

 

When he says "protestants" inform him there is no such thing as a "protestant" - this is a meaningless collective term which refers to 10s of 1000s of different types of non-conformist Christianity, none of which have much in common with the others.

 

"Protestant" doesnt tell you anything about a persons religion, (if they have one), all it really means is "not Catholic". (when you grasp that some Scots identify mainly as "not Catholic" then you get your first insight into the problems our society has).

 

A court in Scotland has ruled that the word hun is sectarian, which is absurd and an insult to our intelligence. This is part of Scotlands pretence that our social difficulties are a natural phenomena which occurs whenever different religions coexist.

 

Scotland prefers to indulge in this pretence, than face the facts that - for 100s of years - Mainstream Scotland went out of its way to dehumanise and demonise its Catholic minority population.

 

For example, up until the year 2002 - in the 21st century - official Church of Scotland paperwork described Catholics as "immoral drunks" who were "responsible for most crime" and who were "racially inferior" to non-Catholics. But always remember - its the existence of Catholic schools which cause the social problems, isnt it?

 

I dont know if anyone has ever read "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler (I have) - he essentially said the same things about the Jews, which the Church of Scotland said about Catholics. Recently I attended a lecture by Professor Tom Devine, who pointed out that the Berlin based International Protestant League said in the 1930s that "The Catholic problem in Scotland is the same as the Jewish problem in Germany".

 

Essentially, for centuries Scotland has been a deeply bigoted and hostile place for Catholics - because mainstream identity was founded on little more than hatred for Catholics. This was a result of the reformers paranoia, who were hell bent that Scotland would not re-adopt Catholicism, at any cost. They were amusing in their naivety, like King Canute or something.

 

We see this anti-Catholic hatred has remained prominent, at all levels of Scottish society, even today even though the perverted quasi-Christianity which spawned it has largely declined and is almost gone. The reason for this is that a resentment of Catholics is all some Scots (huns) have in terms of their own identity, its how they understand themselves. Many of the grown men who support the huns (and sellick) have the complete pantomime as the entireity of their identity, its the centre of their universe.

 

Like all bullies / cowards, Scotland isnt that keen on owning up to this inglorious history and taking responsibility for it. This is why we instead pretend that its a "two way issue", a natural phenomenon, somehow linked to Catholic schools. (Scotland has always prefered to blame Catholics for the abuse Catholics themselves have suffered).

 

This pretence is why we need to invent sectarian abuses against what we like to call "both sides" - hence why we are pretending that the word "hun" is sectarian to protestants, even though "protestant" isnt an identity and doesnt mean anything.

 

So, the term isnt sectarian, but Scotland pretends that it is, as part of an effort to distort understanding of why our society is the way it is.

 

The idea that the word is "sectarian" is ridiculous given every football team in the nation calls the huns "huns" - not just sellick. If I ever got into trouble for using the word, I would happily go to court and take great pleasure in ridiculing the whole pathetic spectacle.

[The Boofon]

It's not too late to apologise.

 

 

I make no apologies to huns.

[tup]

You should apologise for PMing bluto though.

[Tommy]

 

 

I make no apologies to huns.

Understandably.

It's Dynamo i was concerned for.

He takes that stuff to heart.

[chaos_defrost]

 

 

 

You are correct. The term originally appeared in English newspapers, when the huns were called "huns" (invaders) after one of the many times they rioted when down in England for a friendly. There is a wealth of anecdotal evidence online from this, especially from English football fans.

 

Ask your hun acquaitance who the term is sectarian against.

 

When he says "protestants" inform him there is no such thing as a "protestant" - this is a meaningless collective term which refers to 10s of 1000s of different types of non-conformist Christianity, none of which have much in common with the others.

 

"Protestant" doesnt tell you anything about a persons religion, (if they have one), all it really means is "not Catholic". (when you grasp that some Scots identify mainly as "not Catholic" then you get your first insight into the problems our society has).

 

A court in Scotland has ruled that the word hun is sectarian, which is absurd and an insult to our intelligence. This is part of Scotlands pretence that our social difficulties are a natural phenomena which occurs whenever different religions coexist.

 

Scotland prefers to indulge in this pretence, than face the facts that - for 100s of years - Mainstream Scotland went out of its way to dehumanise and demonise its Catholic minority population.

 

For example, up until the year 2002 - in the 21st century - official Church of Scotland paperwork described Catholics as "immoral drunks" who were "responsible for most crime" and who were "racially inferior" to non-Catholics. But always remember - its the existence of Catholic schools which cause the social problems, isnt it?

 

I dont know if anyone has ever read "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler (I have) - he essentially said the same things about the Jews, which the Church of Scotland said about Catholics. Recently I attended a lecture by Professor Tom Devine, who pointed out that the Berlin based International Protestant League said in the 1930s that "The Catholic problem in Scotland is the same as the Jewish problem in Germany".

 

Essentially, for centuries Scotland has been a deeply bigoted and hostile place for Catholics - because mainstream identity was founded on little more than hatred for Catholics. This was a result of the reformers paranoia, who were hell bent that Scotland would not re-adopt Catholicism, at any cost. They were amusing in their naivety, like King Canute or something.

 

We see this anti-Catholic hatred has remained prominent, at all levels of Scottish society, even today even though the perverted quasi-Christianity which spawned it has largely declined and is almost gone. The reason for this is that a resentment of Catholics is all some Scots (huns) have in terms of their own identity, its how they understand themselves. Many of the grown men who support the huns (and sellick) have the complete pantomime as the entireity of their identity, its the centre of their universe.

 

Like all bullies / cowards, Scotland isnt that keen on owning up to this inglorious history and taking responsibility for it. This is why we instead pretend that its a "two way issue", a natural phenomenon, somehow linked to Catholic schools. (Scotland has always prefered to blame Catholics for the abuse Catholics themselves have suffered).

 

This pretence is why we need to invent sectarian abuses against what we like to call "both sides" - hence why we are pretending that the word "hun" is sectarian to protestants, even though "protestant" isnt an identity and doesnt mean anything.

 

So, the term isnt sectarian, but Scotland pretends that it is, as part of an effort to distort understanding of why our society is the way it is.

 

The idea that the word is "sectarian" is ridiculous given every football team in the nation calls the huns "huns" - not just sellick. If I ever got into trouble for using the word, I would happily go to court and take great pleasure in ridiculing the whole pathetic spectacle.

 

 

No wonder folk down your way don't like catholics if youz all bang on like that, works the other way too I'd imagine.

[The Boofon]

Understandably.

It's Dynamo i was concerned for.

He takes that stuff to heart.

 

 

He said he doesn't take offense at anything so he's safe enough.

 

You're just as bad you wool shop humping bastard.

[Tommy]

 

 

He said he doesn't take offense at anything so he's safe enough.

 

You're just as bad you wool shop humping bastard.

At least you didna call me a hun.

[King Street Loon]

 

 

 

You are correct.

This would have sufficed.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

No wonder folk down your way don't like catholics if youz all bang on like that, works the other way too I'd imagine.

 

Sometimes the truth is difficult (and long-winded lol).

[Clydeside_Sheep]

This would have sufficed.

 

I know, but you know how I like to always go the extra mile lol

[Ingolfsson]

 

 

 

You are correct. The term originally appeared in English newspapers, when the huns were called "huns" (invaders) after one of the many times they rioted when down in England for a friendly. There is a wealth of anecdotal evidence online from this, especially from English football fans.

 

Ask your hun acquaitance who the term is sectarian against.

 

When he says "protestants" inform him there is no such thing as a "protestant" - this is a meaningless collective term which refers to 10s of 1000s of different types of non-conformist Christianity, none of which have much in common with the others.

 

"Protestant" doesnt tell you anything about a persons religion, (if they have one), all it really means is "not Catholic". (when you grasp that some Scots identify mainly as "not Catholic" then you get your first insight into the problems our society has).

 

A court in Scotland has ruled that the word hun is sectarian, which is absurd and an insult to our intelligence. This is part of Scotlands pretence that our social difficulties are a natural phenomena which occurs whenever different religions coexist.

 

Scotland prefers to indulge in this pretence, than face the facts that - for 100s of years - Mainstream Scotland went out of its way to dehumanise and demonise its Catholic minority population.

 

For example, up until the year 2002 - in the 21st century - official Church of Scotland paperwork described Catholics as "immoral drunks" who were "responsible for most crime" and who were "racially inferior" to non-Catholics. But always remember - its the existence of Catholic schools which cause the social problems, isnt it?

 

I dont know if anyone has ever read "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler (I have) - he essentially said the same things about the Jews, which the Church of Scotland said about Catholics. Recently I attended a lecture by Professor Tom Devine, who pointed out that the Berlin based International Protestant League said in the 1930s that "The Catholic problem in Scotland is the same as the Jewish problem in Germany".

 

Essentially, for centuries Scotland has been a deeply bigoted and hostile place for Catholics - because mainstream identity was founded on little more than hatred for Catholics. This was a result of the reformers paranoia, who were hell bent that Scotland would not re-adopt Catholicism, at any cost. They were amusing in their naivety, like King Canute or something.

 

We see this anti-Catholic hatred has remained prominent, at all levels of Scottish society, even today even though the perverted quasi-Christianity which spawned it has largely declined and is almost gone. The reason for this is that a resentment of Catholics is all some Scots (huns) have in terms of their own identity, its how they understand themselves. Many of the grown men who support the huns (and sellick) have the complete pantomime as the entireity of their identity, its the centre of their universe.

 

Like all bullies / cowards, Scotland isnt that keen on owning up to this inglorious history and taking responsibility for it. This is why we instead pretend that its a "two way issue", a natural phenomenon, somehow linked to Catholic schools. (Scotland has always prefered to blame Catholics for the abuse Catholics themselves have suffered).

 

This pretence is why we need to invent sectarian abuses against what we like to call "both sides" - hence why we are pretending that the word "hun" is sectarian to protestants, even though "protestant" isnt an identity and doesnt mean anything.

 

So, the term isnt sectarian, but Scotland pretends that it is, as part of an effort to distort understanding of why our society is the way it is.

 

The idea that the word is "sectarian" is ridiculous given every football team in the nation calls the huns "huns" - not just sellick. If I ever got into trouble for using the word, I would happily go to court and take great pleasure in ridiculing the whole pathetic spectacle.

 

 

It's a thorny area. Glad I wasn't brought up in west coast.

 

Doing a bit of research online on this, it's all the more depressing that cunts from anywhere east of Harthill, and north of Cumbernauld would choose to follow either team in favour of their local side, or at least one that wasn't affiliated with all this shite. So avoidable. In fact, morally derelict of the parent(s) to allow their son to follow the OF. Total poison.