Tommy Robinson Quits Edl....

[Ke1t]

Probably old news to the rest of you, but I just found out about it.

 

Robinson says there are too many NAZIs and right wing extremists in the organisation now... and I notice he's chatting to Muslims now.

 

Nick Griffin, on the other hand, is saying how votes for the EDL will be coming the way of the BNP, and that Robinson is more or less a Jew-controlled traitor to the cause, derisively mentioning how Robinson "Took his shoes off in a mosque"... the horror.

 

I'm interested to hear Daytripping's opinion on all of this, given your admiration of Tommy Robinson, and whether your opinion on the EDL has changed given Tommy Robinson's admission that its ranks are filled with NAZIs and right wing extremists.... or if your opinion on Tommy Robinson himself has changed in light of recent developments over there on the far right of fringe politics.

 

 

http://youtu.be/QEYKgKOv7-c

 

[Jocky Balboa]

The EDL is a Zionist funded org. Do the maths, Kelt.

[dave_min]

Maybe he just realised he was being a bit of a dick?

[tightbreeks]

he was in a situation similar to alex salmond's just now. maybe big al will call it a day as well.

 

coat, get my

[cow]

Just finished watching the 50 minute video and I highly recommend watching it.

[Ke1t]

The EDL is a Zionist funded org. Do the maths, Kelt.

 

I'm confused by the whole thing.

 

Why would Israel, presumably Israel, fund Tommy Robinson's EDL, only for Tommy Robinson to begin portraying Muslims as normal people?

 

Surely the ultimate goal of Israel is to portray Muslims as nothing but wild-eyed terrorists who are out to rape children, blow up buildings, and wage jihad against western civilisation?

 

So, with that in mind, wouldn't the entire project be counter productive?

[TwoStars]

Tommy does speak a lot of sense at times, however he also speaks a lot of shite.

 

The rest of the EDL members are a waste of oxygen. They are embarrassing and have no idea what they are talking about.

 

Summed up by this young chap.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M

[spamspamspam]

 

I'm confused by the whole thing.

 

Why would Israel, presumably Israel, fund Tommy Robinson's EDL, only for Tommy Robinson to begin portraying Muslims as normal people?

 

Surely the ultimate goal of Israel is to portray Muslims as nothing but wild-eyed terrorists who are out to rape children, blow up buildings, and wage jihad against western civilisation?

 

So, with that in mind, wouldn't the entire project be counter productive?

 

 

You mean kinda like when umerika funded Bin laden?

 

I thought Israel's ultimate goal was to slowly take over enough territory and build up enough wealth to be able to buy America from the Saudi's and claim that as thenew promised land with Washington being renames New Bethlehem, New York would become new new new Jerusalem and New Orleans being given to Mexico because even YHWH cant save their voodoo souls.

[The Boofon]

Probably old news to the rest of you, but I just found out about it.

 

Robinson says there are too many NAZIs and right wing extremists in the organisation now... and I notice he's chatting to Muslims now.

 

Nick Griffin, on the other hand, is saying how votes for the EDL will be coming the way of the BNP, and that Robinson is more or less a Jew-controlled traitor to the cause, derisively mentioning how Robinson "Took his shoes off in a mosque"... the horror.

 

I'm interested to hear Daytripping's opinion on all of this, given your admiration of Tommy Robinson, and whether your opinion on the EDL has changed given Tommy Robinson's admission that its ranks are filled with NAZIs and right wing extremists.... or if your opinion on Tommy Robinson himself has changed in light of recent developments over there on the far right of fringe politics.

 

 

http://youtu.be/QEYKgKOv7-c

 

 

I'd guess that Tommy is doing a "Homeland"

 

He's undercover without a doubt.

[The Cockney Don]

They`re all a bunch of CUNTS

[daytripping]

Tommy is a very intelligent person but he created something that got out of hand, he could never have dreamed it would get so big. What started as a well intentioned campaign group against extreme Islam soon started to attract the racist element, the far left didn't help either with the trouble they caused at marches.

 

I'm sure Tommy will go on to much greater things, the EDL will die a slow death without him.

[Sheep#1]

 

Summed up by this young chap.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M

 

Ah yes, this eloquent young gent. I'm no bleeding heart liberal leftie, but ffs.

[Jocky Balboa]

 

I'm confused by the whole thing.

 

Why would Israel, presumably Israel, fund Tommy Robinson's EDL, only for Tommy Robinson to begin portraying Muslims as normal people?

 

Surely the ultimate goal of Israel is to portray Muslims as nothing but wild-eyed terrorists who are out to rape children, blow up buildings, and wage jihad against western civilisation?

 

So, with that in mind, wouldn't the entire project be counter productive?

 

Kelt,

 

You are one of many who haven't quite pieced it all together. Yet.

 

What the Zionist agenda encompasses is to enforce multiculturalism in Western nations, through mass immigration and every conceivable far-left cause (ask who invented Communism, who pushed for integration in America, neo-liberalism, neo-conservatism, etc. etc.) while advocating the EXACT. POLAR. OPPOSITE. position for Israel and it's "right to remain a Jewish state". Internationalist for all but themselves, if you will.

 

So, with regards to the Muslim question, they want the people of the West to believe "diversity is good, diversity is a strength, diversity cures all ills" and thus accept Muslims into our lands en masse, BUT peddle lies about Iraq, Syria, Iran and any powerful Middle Eastern power as a threat to Israel and the Western world (when we know it is bullshit).

 

They know that mass immigration of Muslims will eventually result in mass conflict between them and us, upon their failure to integrate into the Western way of life, which will in turn play right into their hands... increasing sympathy for Israel.

 

Do your research and you will see these facts are irrefutable.

[Guest]

One thing Tommy or whatever his real name is gets my respect for is the way he conducted himself in establishment interviews.

 

That smarmy cunt Andrew Neil made a cunt of himself with Tommy and Paxman never got the better of him.

 

The Luton man of Irish descent has/had some excellent sentiments but his "cause" was hijacked by the lowest common denominators.

 

He himself had a scummy background and history but if the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act is worth the paper it's written on, and the philosophy behind it's origin is credible, then his word post-sentence-served is as valuable as anyone's. Personally, I believe the incarcerated have an equal voice. It's up to the listeners whether to believe it or not. That's freedom of speech. With the exception that repeating offenders of speaking shite get their mouths blown off with a sufficiently powered handgun.

 

No idea who funded him but wouldn't be surprised if the Juden were behind it. I wouldn't have expected him to have taken their dough but hey, once a crim, always a crime eh? Make a mistake once and you're fucked for ever.

[Scrumpy]

 

Summed up by this young chap.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M

Because he's not articulate (and probably pissed by the slurring) you would have everyone dismiss what he has to say - even though you understand exactly what he is trying to say. Poor argument TwoStars. Aberdeen (and most of Scotland) is still mollycoddled and needs to wake up. Ever wonder why there isn't an EDL equivalent in Scotland? Don't worry, it's coming. I'm no EDL supporter but at least this English guy is out on the street to protest about something that affects his daily existance - something he believes in. I wonder when TwoStars last went out on to the street to protest about anything?

[zander]

Because he's not articulate (and probably pissed by the slurring) you would have everyone dismiss what he has to say - even though you understand exactly what he is trying to say. Poor argument TwoStars. Aberdeen (and most of Scotland) is still mollycoddled and needs to wake up. Ever wonder why there isn't an EDL equivalent in Scotland? Don't worry, it's coming. I'm no EDL supporter but at least this English guy is out on the street to protest about something that affects his daily existance - something he believes in. I wonder when TwoStars last went out on to the street to protest about anything?

SDL?

[caledonia]

Just finished watching the 50 minute video and I highly recommend watching it.

just did the same if you mean the one in kelts post and Tommy comes out of it very good indeed

[Jocky Balboa]

Because he's not articulate (and probably pissed by the slurring) you would have everyone dismiss what he has to say - even though you understand exactly what he is trying to say. Poor argument TwoStars. Aberdeen (and most of Scotland) is still mollycoddled and needs to wake up. Ever wonder why there isn't an EDL equivalent in Scotland? Don't worry, it's coming. I'm no EDL supporter but at least this English guy is out on the street to protest about something that affects his daily existance - something he believes in. I wonder when TwoStars last went out on to the street to protest about anything?

 

The Islamification of Europe will reach Scotland eventually, it is only a matter of time, BUT we need to look at the causes, not merely the symptoms.

[Dandyesque]

 

The Islamification of Europe will reach Scotland eventually, it is only a matter of time, BUT we need to look at the causes, not merely the symptoms.

 

 

Meanwhile, Turkey is secular...

[Ke1t]

 

The Islamification of Europe will reach Scotland eventually, it is only a matter of time, BUT we need to look at the causes, not merely the symptoms.

 

Maybe being Muslim is magic, which is why it's the fastest growing superstition in the world.

 

Generally I've no concern what religious people do to one another, though, be that cheating each other out of money like the televangelists or cutting each other's hands off like the Muslims.

 

If they choose to believe in fairies then other mad shit will naturally follow.

[Jocky Balboa]

 

 

Meanwhile, Turkey is secular...

It is indeed a secular constitutional republic, as laid out by Mustafa Kemal (AKA "Ataturk") almost a century ago. However, it should be noted that it is the military enforcement of this constitution that prevents Turkey from sliding into Muslamic derka derka-ism.

[TwoStars]

Because he's not articulate (and probably pissed by the slurring) you would have everyone dismiss what he has to say - even though you understand exactly what he is trying to say. Poor argument TwoStars. Aberdeen (and most of Scotland) is still mollycoddled and needs to wake up. Ever wonder why there isn't an EDL equivalent in Scotland? Don't worry, it's coming. I'm no EDL supporter but at least this English guy is out on the street to protest about something that affects his daily existance - something he believes in. I wonder when TwoStars last went out on to the street to protest about anything?

 

What did he have to say?

[fatjim]

Tommy is a very intelligent person but he created something that got out of hand, he could never have dreamed it would get so big. What started as a well intentioned campaign group against extreme Islam soon started to attract the racist element, the far left didn't help either with the trouble they caused at marches.

 

I'm sure Tommy will go on to much greater things, the EDL will die a slow death without him.

 

Compared to you he may seem intelligent but to be fair he is a bit thick. He gets out of his depth very quickly and in the main he talks nonsense.

He has had a bit of an epiphany that everyone should be taken on an individual basis. His prejudices have been shown up as being narrow minded and at least he has had enough intelligence to see that.

[dave_min]

 

 

Meanwhile, Turkey is secular...

 

Only after you carve it though.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

The Islamification of Europe will reach Scotland eventually, it is only a matter of time, BUT we need to look at the causes, not merely the symptoms.

 

Interesting points.

 

I dont think there is any coherent "master plan" of trying to islamify Europe, but it is occuring naturally via mass immigration coupled with the higher birth rate of islamic communities.

 

And immigration begets more immigration, because muslim immigrants, EU citizens, are entitled to get married in (eg) Pakistan and then bring the spouse over here. We cant stop immigration, because our own birth-rates are too low; for example in Scotland, our indigenous birthrate has been insufficient to even maintain (let alone grow) our population for about 40 years, (since early 70s), which is heavily connected to womens entry to the work-force, as well as abortion and contraception.

 

I think what happens is that immigrant communities (of any type) when small in number are keen to be accepted and so are quite meek, but when they being to have "districts" or areas of their own, they naturally assert themselves to a higher degree. Usually this just takes a benign form - foreign language shop signs springing up etc. But when the culture is Sunni Islam - not known for its tolerance of non-Sunni muslims - it can become problematic.

 

We see this already in parts of london, with the "muslim patrols" who have taken to harrassing people exhibiting non-islamic behaviour, such as drinking alcohol, appearing to be a gay person or holding hands with someone of the opposite sex.

 

In Glasgow, on Great Western Road, I once saw some bus shelters that had quite clearly been "censored" by someone of islamic persuation - this was at the stretch where there is a large muslim population and several mosques. It was things like H&M bikini or underwear adverts - painted over with black paint. It struck me because the censorship had been on the news from england too. This was a year or two ago, never seen it before or since (though I cant say if the types of adverts have subtley changed or not).

 

In the same area there was once an objection to the relicensing of a pub, because it was near a mosque. This was ridiculed, given the large number of muslim shops selling booze in the area (and also the pubs were there first).

 

These are the kinds of examples which occur when a community has a local dominance and starts to assert itself. The Glasgow examples are not too bad, but the london one is really sinister.

 

In the main the Muslim community makes a really positive contribution to the UK, notably in business and enterprise. They definitely punch above their weight economically. But the challenge of a mutlicultural place is ultimately trying to tolerate one another.

 

Of course Europe has been under pressure from Islamic expansion essentially since the dawn of islam. Usually this was attempted militarily, but now happens via non-violent means.

 

The much maligned Crusades were in large part a series of defensive wars against islamic expansion. Islamic had over-run the near-east - Syria, Jordan, Palestine etc - also also Spain. This meant pilgrims couldnt safely reach Jerusalem and the like. The Byzantines (intact eastern half of the imperial roman empire).were then taking the Islamic heat and they asked the Pope for military assistance. These factors launched the various remarkable pan-european Catholic military efforts known as the Crusades.

 

(The motivations of those taking part would have varied between religious fervour, adventure, spoils of war, glory, fame, sense of duty, desire to escape home for some reason)

 

Catholic armies eventually managed to throw Islam out of Spain, but the main Crusades were ultimately unsuccesful, the Holy Land was islamified and even the Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire fell to Islam.

 

Catholic Europe was then faced with a battle for survival, which it ultimately achieved in various noble victories, including at the very Gates of Vienna, and at Lepanto, one of the most significant naval battles in human history (makes Trafalgar look like dispute in a duck pond). Even parts of eastern Europe which had fallen - Hungary, Romania etc- were ultimately retaken by the Christians.

 

In all these wars, the Muslims hammered us as many times as we hammered them, (probably more in fact), but it makes you think that if even one battle like Lepanto had gone the other way, we might well all be Muslims now! Allah Akhbar!

[fatjim]

I'm sure the pagans were a bit pissed off with christianity came to these shores.

 

Especially when they stole their festivals and made them their own.

[Ke1t]

I'm sure the pagans were a bit pissed off with christianity came to these shores.

 

Especially when they stole their festivals and made them their own.

 

I think the Pagans were probably more pissed off about being murdered en masse by Catholics than the theft of their festivals.

[360]

Let's face stone cold facts.

 

The "muzzies" leave their Muslim countries because they are shitholes and ran by savages.

 

They then come to our HOMELAND, have 10 kids and then go on to self righteously hate preach that we should live under their laws and customs.

 

If they like IT so much, why did they leave in the first place?

 

Not on my watch, not on my SOIL.

[Ke1t]

Let's face stone cold facts.

 

The "muzzies" leave their Muslim countries because they are shitholes and ran by savages.

 

They then come to our HOMELAND, have 10 kids and then go on to self righteously hate preach that we should live under their laws and customs.

 

If they like IT so much, why did they leave in the first place?

 

Not on my watch, not on my SOIL.

 

I suspect those aren't really facts, though, outside of a minority of vocal radicals.

[fatjim]

Exactly the majority of muslims just want to live in peace.

 

The majority of non muslims aren't in the slightest bit effected by the the presence of muslims.

 

Thankfully it's just a minority who are knuckle dragging morons who haven't got a clue what they are talking about and fall for right wing propaganda.