Mcinnes - Best Turnaround ever?

[Stoney]

Do we regard the job Mcinnes has done as the best in the clubs history? Last season we were a point of 9th when he took over and 13 points behind second placed Motherwell. Signing only a handful of players and with hardly any money to spend who could complete?

 

Thinking back to previous managers,

 

Obvious choice would be SAF, But Mcneil left us in pretty good shape, Runners up in two cups and only two points behind the league champions Rangers.

 

Next i thought, Calderwood did a pretty decent job considering the mire we were left in under Paterson, but he did spend heavily and only managed to get us fourth in the league, also getting knocked out in the third round of the league cup and humiliated against Dundee United in the Scottish cup.

 

Cant think if any other outstanding candidates? Wasnt around during the Eddie Turnbull era but perhaps the old heads could weigh in.

[tup]

I think Brown did the hard work to pave the way for this.

 

McGhee had all but ruined the club.

 

I thought we would do this well last season but for whatever reason it didna happen.

 

Injuries were a big factor.

[Dynamo]

McInnes has done very well especially considering the shambles that was dinosaur Brown and arsehole McGhee.

 

But as i'm sure he'll be the first to tell you, he's not done yet.

[ericblack4boss]

real case for saying yes, but im going to defend Paterson , he was forced to drastically cut the costs, if he had been allowed to bring in Robson, McDonald and Severuin when he wanted, and mAanaged to ship out Mackie then he might have had a far better than side than he actually had.

[Stoneybloke]

 

Cant think if any other outstanding candidates? Wasnt around during the Eddie Turnbull era but perhaps the old heads could weigh in.

Eddie was no doubt a great manager, but it took him 5 years to win a trophy.

[Tord31]

Brown takes some credit for binning quite a bit of the dross to be fair and making decent signings in Anderson, Reynolds, Hayes and McGinn - which he does take a small amount of credit for. Pity he couldn't get them to play as a team and his methods were out of date but he did put the players in place.

 

McInnes has the chance to be the second greatest manager in our history and it is certainly the best turnaround ever since Turnbull process was over many seasons.

[Stoney]

Brown takes some credit for binning quite a bit of the dross to be fair and making decent signings in Anderson, Reynolds, Hayes and McGinn - which he does take a small amount of credit for. Pity he couldn't get them to play as a team and his methods were out of date but he did put the players in place.

 

McInnes has the chance to be the second greatest manager in our history and it is certainly the best turnaround ever since Turnbull process was over many seasons.

 

Considering how far behind we are in financial terms behind rangers and celtic and given the nature of european competition now, how could Mcinnes elevate himself to Fergie status....

 

The nature of the beast has changed an awful lot since those times.

[Tord31]

Any manager that wins the league for Aberdeen during my lifetime I personally would view as the greatest manager in the history of the club. Older fans may of course disagree rightly so. That would be the only achievement that would surpass all previous achievements imo - as you say given the change in landscape.

 

Keeping the momentum going for 12-18 months would probably be enough to cement 2nd place in our history which is pretty scary.

[spamspamspam]

I can only go by the ones I remember

 

Fergie - no need to comment

Porterfield was a mistake, worst person available to replace Fergie

Smith - decent, had backing from the board though

Willie Miller - did OK

Aitken - fucking ruined us

Miller carried on ruining us

Ebbie - well, lowest finish ever says it all. Aye, 2 cup finals but no chance in either.

Paterson - No comparisons can be made with all before him on this list, mainly because they were given millions and his team was stripped back and money cut so much he had to scrape D1 for players.

Calderwood - fucking cancerous cunt. Bought his way to mediocrity, Did OK to start off with, ended up spending £125'000 on fucking Tommy Wright. Threw rattle when asked to use the kids coming through and left us with Aluko, Foster, Mulgrew and Langfield all crying that he had talked himself out of a job and set us up for another 4 years of garbage and turn around of players with almost eternal contracts on the likes of Mackie.

McGhee - left with lazy petulant twats in the squad. Tried to get them to look after themselves, even had the inherited coach bitching about cold baths. Sports science was laughed at, training was said to be hard but I#d say they had been getting off easy and stood no chance. Saying that he didnt help himself either, Celtic this, I'm marvellous that, cant compete, players are shite...

Brown - mr saftey, garbage fitba, dull results, no drive, nadda. A continuation of McGhee and Calderwood. However I'd aslo say his presence at the club is one of the most valuable things we have personnel wise. His football knowledge is second to none and he is respected by coaches and managers all over Europe and probably the world. THe man has more connections than Heathrow.

McInnes - took a team that was consistently 9th and hadnt got past the semi final stage of a cup in 4 managers and has them 2nd and already has the league cup in the bag.

 

He's only made 1 poor signing, Zola. He's done something no one else has in 19 years with no money to spend on transfer fees, some of the guys before him spent millions.

 

I dont think a manager anywhere has turned a club around so much in such a short time and I think its all down to him. We've always had decent SPL/SPFL standard players, now we've got a manager that actually knows how to use them and get the best out of them.

[King Street Loon]

As much as I'm delighted with how things are going, I'd call it the best turnaround if we maintained the level of performance next season. Not necessarally winning cups, but closing the gap at the top and at least getting to finals.

[Stoney]

As much as I'm delighted with how things are going, I'd call it the best turnaround if we maintained the level of performance next season. Not necessarally winning cups, but closing the gap at the top and at least getting to finals.

 

Depends how much celtic spend i guess.

Look how many million they spent this season, it was quite frankly ridicules for what they got.

[fine-n-dandy]

 

Depends how much celtic spend i guess.

Look how many million they spent this season, it was quite frankly ridicules for what they got.

But they're the best run club in the Country, if not the world.

[ericblack4boss]

I can only go by the ones I remember

 

Fergie - no need to comment

Porterfield was a mistake, worst person available to replace Fergie

Smith - decent, had backing from the board though

Willie Miller - did OK

Aitken - fucking ruined us

Miller carried on ruining us

Ebbie - well, lowest finish ever says it all. Aye, 2 cup finals but no chance in either.

Paterson - No comparisons can be made with all before him on this list, mainly because they were given millions and his team was stripped back and money cut so much he had to scrape D1 for players.

Calderwood - fucking cancerous cunt. Bought his way to mediocrity, Did OK to start off with, ended up spending £125'000 on fucking Tommy Wright. Threw rattle when asked to use the kids coming through and left us with Aluko, Foster, Mulgrew and Langfield all crying that he had talked himself out of a job and set us up for another 4 years of garbage and turn around of players with almost eternal contracts on the likes of Mackie.

McGhee - left with lazy petulant twats in the squad. Tried to get them to look after themselves, even had the inherited coach bitching about cold baths. Sports science was laughed at, training was said to be hard but I#d say they had been getting off easy and stood no chance. Saying that he didnt help himself either, Celtic this, I'm marvellous that, cant compete, players are shite...

Brown - mr saftey, garbage fitba, dull results, no drive, nadda. A continuation of McGhee and Calderwood. However I'd aslo say his presence at the club is one of the most valuable things we have personnel wise. His football knowledge is second to none and he is respected by coaches and managers all over Europe and probably the world. THe man has more connections than Heathrow.

McInnes - took a team that was consistently 9th and hadnt got past the semi final stage of a cup in 4 managers and has them 2nd and already has the league cup in the bag.

 

He's only made 1 poor signing, Zola. He's done something no one else has in 19 years with no money to spend on transfer fees, some of the guys before him spent millions.

 

I dont think a manager anywhere has turned a club around so much in such a short time and I think its all down to him. We've always had decent SPL/SPFL standard players, now we've got a manager that actually knows how to use them and get the best out of them.

Porterfield, a very strange appointment, he was as negative as Brown, he used to tell his side before kick off "it's 0-0 , we've got a point don't lose it" summed up by his buys only Charlie Nicholas was an inspirational signing.

 

Smith- along with Jocky Scott, they came so close with a side that despite costing money was full of class, but the divorce of Scott and Smith signalled the end for Alex.

 

W.Miller- made one big error, he didn't leave the club to learn his trade elsewhere, had he done so his reign may have proved better, without doubt the most prolific forward line ( Shearer, Pattelainen,Jess, Booth,) seen at Pittodrie since McGhee, Strachan, Black, Hewitt.

 

Aitken- purple haired cunt, squandered millions on Kiriakov, Tzvetanov, Bernard,

 

A Miller- a poor, lazy choice showed no imagination, and was doomed to failure.

 

Skovdahl- uncle Ebbe, a likeable kind of cunt, got us to two finals and third in league, but his first season was littered with thumpings

 

Paterson- forced to make swinging cuts, and despite being an alky he still saw Mackie was shite.

 

Calderwood- think I've made my feelings on him made very clear.

 

McGhee- agree with spam x3, tried to install discipline and professionalism to a bunch of lazy, uncaring , shower of cunts.

 

Brown- his biggest achievement was somehow taking a team that goalkeeper didn't have a save to make. And yet lost games.

[Tord31]

maybe if we go on to have a good spell maybe just maybe the McGhee hatred could soften. Between McGhee and Brown they did ship out all the shite Calderwood had left us with pretty much. Must have been 20+ players releasd by those two

[CraigHill]

maybe if we go on to have a good spell maybe just maybe the McGhee hatred could soften. Between McGhee and Brown they did ship out all the shite Calderwood had left us with pretty much. Must have been 20+ players releasd by those two

Don't necessarily hate McGhee, he's just a fucking awful manager whose appointment set us back massively. Don't think that can soften, regardless of how we do now.

[rossafc92]

maybe if we go on to have a good spell maybe just maybe the McGhee hatred could soften. Between McGhee and Brown they did ship out all the shite Calderwood had left us with pretty much. Must have been 20+ players releasd by those two

 

I despise him. And always will.

 

His first press conference was a sackable offence in itself.

 

Pretends a fan spat on him.

 

Labels a 9-0 defeat as "just three points".

 

Can't be arsed typing more. No doubt we were getting relegated under him. Managed to do plenty of transfer in the summer of 2010 to have that team molded into his own.

[E-P-K]

 

I despise him. And always will.

 

His first press conference was a sackable offence in itself.

 

Pretends a fan spat on him.

 

Labels a 9-0 defeat as "just three points".

 

Can't be arsed typing more. No doubt we were getting relegated under him. Managed to do plenty of transfer in the summer of 2010 to have that team molded into his own.

 

 

Due to being offshore I missed the final, got home Wednesday night, and first thing yesterday I watched the re-run, and McGhee IMO is a little bitter, he made negative comments that the 40K Dons supporters were quiet near the end, and the Anderson challenge was def a penalty.

[ericblack4boss]

I've said on here often that McGhee was shafted, days after his appointment the setanta deal went tits up eradicating his budget in one fell swoop.

Then he tried to install some semblance of good practice, fitness, and professionalism to an odious, bunch of shithouses who had created cliques and had no interest in being good pro's.

Perhaps that sullied dingus against the club,

Whilst I don't dispute the man was an arrogant prick he was up against it from the start.

[Jonty]

Think you can guess th type of cunt McGhee is by he fact the non playing staff at Pittodrie threw a party when he got sacked.

 

His record at Bistol Rovers was also pisch.

 

Yet he's turned up as Scotland assistant. Fucks sake.

[ollie1903]

I've said on here often that McGhee was shafted, days after his appointment the setanta deal went tits up eradicating his budget in one fell swoop.

Then he tried to install some semblance of good practice, fitness, and professionalism to an odious, bunch of shithouses who had created cliques and had no interest in being good pro's.

Perhaps that sullied dingus against the club,

Whilst I don't dispute the man was an arrogant prick he was up against it from the start.

The players would have had zero respect for him from the start, owing to the fact that he said he didn't want to be here and wanted to be the manager of another club and another set of players

[tightbreeks]

I think peter pawlett does the best turn you around, or a spun you around.

 

we've got bouncebackability. hmm.

[rossafc92]

I've said on here often that McGhee was shafted, days after his appointment the setanta deal went tits up eradicating his budget in one fell swoop.

Then he tried to install some semblance of good practice, fitness, and professionalism to an odious, bunch of shithouses who had created cliques and had no interest in being good pro's.

Perhaps that sullied dingus against the club,

Whilst I don't dispute the man was an arrogant prick he was up against it from the start.

 

Sorry but this defence doesn't wash at all.

 

Paul Hartley described the dressing room as the worst he had ever been in by the time of McGhee's departure. That dressing room had plenty of his players in it.

 

Doubt the budget McGhee took on is all that different to McInnes' now.

 

His implementation of supposedly new, modern fitness techniques that people bang on about with him...who, Gordon Marshall, a goalkeeper?

 

Professionalism? Give yourself a shake min. This is a man who claimed he would have preferred the Celtic job, indeed admitted he was holding out for it and that Aberdeen were second best. Like it or not, Calderwood was popular with some players. He goes, and your new boss is someone who actively doesn't want to be there. He was up against it from the start, and it was mostly all his fault.

 

The man is anything but professional, and is the luckiest bastard alive that he's assistant to the national team. Nothing but an old pal's act there.

[ericblack4boss]

Ross, don't dispute his Scotland role is an old pals act.

But of course the players were going to revolt, the previous boss, who allowed nights out, indeed joined in.

A boss who himself was guilty of his own backroom staff being an old pals act for fuck sake.

I don't care who the new boss was. Those players should have been giving their all for the fans. Now you maybe think it's alright for the players to give no effort, and have no respect for the fans that pay their wages. And if you think that's acceptable behaviour then that's fine! But not with me.

[a don in oz]

Don't even fucking try to rewrite history and say McGhee wasn't utterly shit.

 

Nothing that prick did at my club as a manager was worth anything.

[tup]

McGhee is a wanker.

[Sonoftherock]

Brown did well to put out the fire that Calderwood had started, which had gotten out of control under McGhee. In my opinion he doesn't get enough credit for that. It was not a trivial task. Pittodrie was poisonous before he arrived, we were in a fucking mess. However he should have left much earlier. He didn't anything to offer over and above stabilising the club. We didn't concede goals, but we couldn't score goals. We were a bottom six side under Brown. We were never threatening the top six, but in fairness we never looked like we'd be relegated either.

 

In fairness to Brown though, there is an argument that he did built a foundation for a more progressive manager to build upon. I doubt that McInnes would have had so much success following directly from Calderwood or McGhee.

[FASH]

 

 

Due to being offshore I missed the final, got home Wednesday night, and first thing yesterday I watched the re-run, and McGhee IMO is a little bitter, he made negative comments that the 40K Dons supporters were quiet near the end, and the Anderson challenge was def a penalty.

Plus, you'll notice in the highlights that he blatantly lies about the Caley defender getting a touch on the ball at our penalty shout in the first half. After the benefit of about 3 reverse angle replays clearly showing there was no touch on the ball he still says there was definitely a touch.

 

Man's a complete penis.

[ericblack4boss]

Don't even fucking try to rewrite history and say McGhee wasn't utterly shit.

 

Nothing that prick did at my club as a manager was worth anything.

So you say that because he was a wank, I don't dispute that, or the utter depths we plummeted too, the players that the fucking OAF had allowed to suit themselves, and encourage to show no respect for the club or the fans are blameless?

McGhee was forced into playing the likes of Maguire, Paton, Pawlett, Robertson, etc when they had no first team experience they were shoehorned into a struggling side, when they weren't ready that cunt calderwood should have played them ahead of his fucking shitehouses he brought in .

For me McGhee s reign meddling in abject failure was built on foundation's built by hunboi 3.

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

Now now before you all start wanking over that hun Derek McInnes he hasnt done fuck all yet. Wait till he wins us a trophy.

 

Oh wait

 

:Party:

[ericblack4boss]

Agreed Brown was what was needed at the time, and yes he brought McGinn, Reynolds, in and both proved to be excellent signings but there is no doubt he stayed one year too long,

The biggest criticism of Brown, is ironically the one thing that football has lost in the last generation, loyalty, we can't say we are surprised, throughout his whole time as Scotland boss his loyalty to the likes of Billy McKinley, and Scott Gemmill. Always selecting them for squads despite never featuring was a blatant case of loyalty