Match Thread (Europa League) Aberdeen V Real Sociedad (2 - 3) (Agg 2 - 5)

[dave_min]

Are Premier Sports showing the Dons game tomorrow?

[TTID]

BT Sport. Excellent. I shall settle down with a few tins & watch the comeback. Good luck.

[fine-n-dandy]

 

Maybe, just maybe, AFC thought of fans unable to get to Thursday's game, like those offshore or who missed out on a ticket?

 

Would any other company have offered to do an outside broadcast at such short notice? Doubtful. Without that, there's no way anyone outside of Pittodrie Stadium would be able to watch the game on Thursday.

 

Are we suggesting, then, that the club should be putting profit before fans?

Who gives a fk about Redtv fans.

You are suggesting that Aberdeen should give away screening rights to one of our biggest Euro games in years for free just so a few £4.99 a month subscribers can see the game?

I subscribe to Redtv also, before you come out with any shitey defence for them.

 

Maybe just maybe you haven't thought through what you are actually speaking about.

The Spanish would/will pay handsomely for the game. Just like the Germans did a half a dozen years ago.

It's (just about) ok IF we have allowed BT to screen it in the UK for fk all profit (if this is the case) but it is most certainly not ok if they are then allowed to "cover their costs" by selling on those rights outside the UK without passing any (or all) profits back to Aberdeen.

 

There could be a whole other deal in place for any outside UK screening but nothing has been announced by the club which implies to me that they have not been the smartest about all this.

[rossafc92]

Who gives a fk about Redtv fans.

You are suggesting that Aberdeen should give away screening rights to one of our biggest Euro games in years for free just so a few £4.99 a month subscribers can see the game?

I subscribe to Redtv also, before you come out with any shitey defence for them.

 

Maybe just maybe you haven't thought through what you are actually speaking about.

The Spanish would/will pay handsomely for the game. Just like the Germans did a half a dozen years ago.

It's (just about) ok IF we have allowed BT to screen it in the UK for fk all profit (if this is the case) but it is most certainly not ok if they are then allowed to "cover their costs" by selling on those rights outside the UK without passing any (or all) profits back to Aberdeen.

 

There could be a whole other deal in place for any outside UK screening but nothing has been announced by the club which implies to me that they have not been the smartest about all this.

 

It wasn't just RedTV subscribers that I was on about. I was on about the principle of putting fans before cash in general.

 

It's all well saying the club should have stood up and demanded payment (going on the basis that they're not getting money from BT Sport for this, which none of us actually know), but with such little time to play with, that might have been an impossibility.

[dj_bollocks]

With the "facts" that we have it perhaps comes across as a bit naive of the club to not make any money out of this transaction. I can see why they've done it, but the impression that I get is that we've pissed away a small pay day… How much have been spent on EPL friendlies in the US that were broadcast at 1am at night ?

[fine-n-dandy]

 

It wasn't just RedTV subscribers that I was on about. I was on about the principle of putting fans before cash in general.

 

It's all well saying the club should have stood up and demanded payment (going on the basis that they're not getting money from BT Sport for this, which none of us actually know), but with such little time to play with, that might have been an impossibility.

Which is down to poor negotiating/planning & lack of balls if that is the case.

 

 

Fuck the over seas fans imo when the club can make cash from the Spanish for this game.

 

As I said it's (kind of) ok for them to give up profit for UK screening for the home fans that may have missed out on a ticket etc. but not ok to give away "exclusive" screening rights to BT if (& it is all based on IF as have said numerous times) they are then able to "cover their costs" & punt on some of those rights to the Spanish etc.

[AFCaketin]

Who gives a fk about Redtv fans.

You are suggesting that Aberdeen should give away screening rights to one of our biggest Euro games in years for free just so a few £4.99 a month subscribers can see the game?

I subscribe to Redtv also, before you come out with any shitey defence for them.

 

Maybe just maybe you haven't thought through what you are actually speaking about.

The Spanish would/will pay handsomely for the game. Just like the Germans did a half a dozen years ago.

It's (just about) ok IF we have allowed BT to screen it in the UK for fk all profit (if this is the case) but it is most certainly not ok if they are then allowed to "cover their costs" by selling on those rights outside the UK without passing any (or all) profits back to Aberdeen.

 

There could be a whole other deal in place for any outside UK screening but nothing has been announced by the club which implies to me that they have not been the smartest about all this.

 

None of us know what deals have been done...except for our own BT call centre chiefy Millertime. No point in getting worked up about it and moaning for the sake of moaning.

 

George Yule has far more credentials than you as far as business goes. I couldn't really give two fucks that it is on the tele tbh, as I will be there - nobody would have offered much for the game anyway I would imagine (massive game for us but to the neutral, it is only a qualifying round for the diddy Europa league). If I wasn't able to make the game (as I am sure a lot of folk can't given it is midweek, holiday season etc.) then I would be delighted that the club have come to an agreement for it to be on tv.

[Dynamo]

Back to the game.

 

I'll be happy with a good performance and really give it a go. But I can't see us beating them by 2 goals (or 3 if they score).

[fine-n-dandy]

 

None of us know what deals have been done...except for our own BT call centre chiefy Millertime. No point in getting worked up about it and moaning for the sake of moaning.

 

George Yule has far more credentials than you as far as business goes. I couldn't really give two fucks that it is on the tele tbh, as I will be there - nobody would have offered much for the game anyway I would imagine (massive game for us but to the neutral, it is only a qualifying round for the diddy Europa league). If I wasn't able to make the game (as I am sure a lot of folk can't given it is midweek, holiday season etc.) then I would be delighted that the club have come to an agreement for it to be on tv.

Nobody is getting worked up about it. We're discussing what MAY be the contract details on what little info that has been released to us & zero info about the club actually capitalising from any deal like they did V Bayern.

 

Just because we don't know the details doesn't mean we cannot/should not discuss the reasoning behind (possibly) giving rights away for free, or selling the rights.

The forum is for discussing things & folk to give their opinions on such things.

 

We all want what's best for Aberdeen & selling the club short (if that is the case) to the likes of BT is detrimental to the club & also what Scottish football is trying to achieve.

 

Edit & the Spanish would have & certainly can afford to have offered plenty money (as far as a club like Aberdeen is concerned) to get rights to screen the game. Just as Bayern did last time

[AFCaketin]

Nobody is getting worked up about it. We're discussing what MAY be the contract details on what little info that has been released to us & zero info about the club actually capitalising from any deal like they did V Bayern.

 

Just because we don't know the details doesn't mean we cannot/should not discuss the reasoning behind (possibly) giving rights away for free, or selling the rights.

The forum is for discussing things & folk to give their opinions on such things.

 

We all want what's best for Aberdeen & selling the club short (if that is the case) to the likes of BT is detrimental to the club & also what Scottish football is trying to achieve.

 

Edit & the Spanish would have & certainly can afford to have offered plenty money (as far as a club like Aberdeen is concerned) to get rights to screen the game. Just as Bayern did last time

 

The way I read your comments, it seems that you are getting a bit worked up. Of course no supporters want the club to be short changed but I don't think we can really compare the Bayern Munich game to this one. That was after christmas in the Europa League proper, this is a qualification round in early August when most people haven't even realised that there is competitive football being played. Therefore, I doubt much money was put on the table by anyone - you would imagine that Premier probably offered something given their willingness to show previous games but BT must have put more incentives in place.

 

Obviously this forum is for discussion, just don't understand why people are jumping to conclusions and criticising the club when they know sweet FA about the deal(s) that have been signed. Loads of folk on here seem to know everything about football management and business, Jose Mourinho/Alan Sugar cross-breeds (EDIT: Not aimed directly at you FnD).

[Patty]

All this talk about thinking about the supporters who never got a ticket... I'm assuming this isn't going to be free to air on BT Sport so BT will be looking to profiteer from it through new subscriptions?

 

That's only based on the assumptions in this topic.

[fine-n-dandy]

 

 

The way I read your comments, it seems that you are getting a bit worked up. Of course no supporters want the club to be short changed but I don't think we can really compare the Bayern Munich game to this one. That was after christmas in the Europa League proper, this is a qualification round in early August when most people haven't even realised that there is competitive football being played. Therefore, I doubt much money was put on the table by anyone - you would imagine that Premier probably offered something given their willingness to show previous games but BT must have put more incentives in place.

 

Obviously this forum is for discussion, just don't understand why people are jumping to conclusions and criticising the club when they know sweet FA about the deal(s) that have been signed. Loads of folk on here seem to know everything about football management and business, Jose Mourinho/Alan Sugar cross-breeds (EDIT: Not aimed directly at you FnD).

No not getting worked up at all. Merely discussing what MAY have been the contract details (as no decent info has been revealed about us getting cash from it or not) & what would/could have been best for Aberdeen.

 

We ALL want whats best for the club because at the end of the day. What's best for the club is best for the fans.

[Guest]

we are getting money from it

 

Who is 'we', based on the fact you work for BT and support AFC?

 

P&J report this morning that it's a non-financial agreement.

[fine-n-dandy]

we are getting money from it

Who's we?

 

Aberdeen FC, or BT Telesales workers?

[tup]

I'm happy these cunts are showing it because it means I can watch it.

[Karl Fletcher]

Part timer

[Dandyesque]

The deal is only to cover screenings in the UK and Ireland

 

Hopefully that should put FnD's overactive imagination to rest

[rossafc92]

Which is down to poor negotiating/planning & lack of balls if that is the case.

 

 

Fuck the over seas fans imo when the club can make cash from the Spanish for this game.

 

As I said it's (kind of) ok for them to give up profit for UK screening for the home fans that may have missed out on a ticket etc. but not ok to give away "exclusive" screening rights to BT if (& it is all based on IF as have said numerous times) they are then able to "cover their costs" & punt on some of those rights to the Spanish etc.

 

 

It's not AFC that hold the cards in this case though. If they had OB facilities, then maybe, but the fact is you've only got the BBC, STV, Sky Sports and BT Sport capable of doing that.

 

I imagine the cost of rigging up etc is too much for the BBC and STV to bother, and Sky don't give a toss anyway. Only really leaves BT Sport.

 

Imagine they will have approached AFC about possibly televising tomorrow's game once the first leg was finished (seeing 2-0 as an aggregate scoreline still worth showing). AFC will have told them to wait until they got a better idea of what the attendance was like. Only once it was a sell out will they have been happy for BT to screen it so they could maximise the crowd. You've probably got less than 24 hours then to have serious talks about the details of screening the game.

 

More than likely a case of take it or leave it from BT (again, presuming no cash is involved). AFC happy to go with that so fans who can't make the game have a chance to see it on tv. If AFC had refused that, then we might have had a similar situation to the final weekend of last season when BT were refused access to Easter Road to show Hibs v Killie. When BT announced that they'd been refused to screen it, it didn't reflect too well on Hibs. There would have been a lot of fans pissed off with the club if they found out that AFC refused to allow BT to screen the game because they weren't getting any cash.

[Pash]

Anyone got a spare ticket for poor wee me?

[fine-n-dandy]

The deal is only to cover screenings in the UK and Ireland

 

Hopefully that should put FnD's overactive imagination to rest

I have already stated this & I also stated that I hoped that they have not just left it at that & that BT cannot punt on their screening to "help cover their costs" to CANAL+ for example.

 

Not having an overactive imagination, if you actually read back you will see that all avenues are pretty much cover & it is ALL speculation. That's what a discussion like this is for.

Nobody is claiming to know anything but the lack of info towards Aberdeen gaining financially from any deal is what has brought about the discussion.

The Bayern game was well publicised as being a good TV money deal.

 

No way this game is not being shown in Spain & all WE all want is that Aberdeen get the financial rewards for this.

[fine-n-dandy]

 

 

It's not AFC that hold the cards in this case though. If they had OB facilities, then maybe, but the fact is you've only got the BBC, STV, Sky Sports and BT Sport capable of doing that.

 

I imagine the cost of rigging up etc is too much for the BBC and STV to bother, and Sky don't give a toss anyway. Only really leaves BT Sport.

 

Imagine they will have approached AFC about possibly televising tomorrow's game once the first leg was finished (seeing 2-0 as an aggregate scoreline still worth showing). AFC will have told them to wait until they got a better idea of what the attendance was like. Only once it was a sell out will they have been happy for BT to screen it so they could maximise the crowd. You've probably got less than 24 hours then to have serious talks about the details of screening the game.

 

More than likely a case of take it or leave it from BT (again, presuming no cash is involved). AFC happy to go with that so fans who can't make the game have a chance to see it on tv. If AFC had refused that, then we might have had a similar situation to the final weekend of last season when BT were refused access to Easter Road to show Hibs v Killie. When BT announced that they'd been refused to screen it, it didn't reflect too well on Hibs. There would have been a lot of fans pissed off with the club if they found out that AFC refused to allow BT to screen the game because they weren't getting any cash.

What a load of shite.

[Hewitt a the pies]

Moan like f*ck if the game isn't screened and moan like f*ck if it is! Hilarious!

[Miglo don]

Who gives a flying fuck what the contractual details of screening the game are!!?

 

Let's get fired right in about them from the off and see what happens, fans have got a massive part to play tonight! COYR.

[fine-n-dandy]

Moan like f*ck if the game isn't screened and moan like f*ck if it is! Hilarious!

Who's moaning about the game being screened?

 

Misses point of discussion completely

[fine-n-dandy]

Who gives a flying fuck what the contractual details of screening the game are!!?

 

Let's get fired right in about them from the off and see what happens, fans have got a massive part to play tonight! COYR.

Shite attitude but trying to cover it with second line

[afc_blockhead]

Anyone got a spare ticket for poor wee me?

 

Yup, 1 in the South Stand

[looksgoodinred]

vuvuzela's for tonight's match!

[dunc_afc]

It might be a small thing but I hope given the opportunity we go against the norm and attack dicks big erection first half. Any small advantage such as the keeper losing the flight of the ball in the glare of the sun could be all it takes.

[MMG]

Players have been playing 3-5-2 in training all week apparently.

[Guest]

vuvuzela's for tonight's match!

 

Made up about this news. Copenhagen match was one of the best football matches I've attended, such was the atmosphere and scoreline. I reckon the vuvuzela's supplied that night, was huge in playing a role in the performance of the side.

 

I know Copenhagen of then and the Real Sociedad of today, are probably not comparable.... but I do think 5000 of these (well done Central Coaches) will help raise the roof.

 

A kind message for all the moaning minnies who attend games - if a young lad or lassie is sitting behind you, and blowing one of these in your shell like, please just bear with it yeah. It's for the good of the team.

 

COYR!