Robin Williams - Deid...

[tommo1903]

Don't agree with you there RS, not that you'll mind. Not something I suffer from but it is a very real illness, I'm far from an expert but know it can be caused by a chemical in-balance in the brain, some of the modern drugs can work miracles.

 

The old pull yourself together may be the answer in some cases but not the majority. Just my humble opinion.

 

Agree with that.

 

If people want help they should get it.

[dj_bollocks]

Depression is or can be debilitating. Your most powerful body part, your brain, not working properly and you can't put a plaster on it or rehab it like a wound or a leg break. Sure there are people who say they're depressed when a twat from One Direction breaks a finger nail, but depression is real, and like alcoholism, or an addiction it will always be there if you suffer from it. You just have to be able to cope with it, and if you're really lucky, you might be able to conquer it.

[dj_bollocks]

Also, trying to get help for depression on the NHS is one of the longest waiting lists there is… #truefact

[DD1903]

It is a terrible condition. I've seen it effect people close to me, plus some at work. The change in them is frightening and all consuming as well.

 

As Dj says, the wait on the NHS is frightening. My mate was in a bad way, eventually after much persuasion by family and friends he went to the docs. He was then referred by them and told he should hear something in around 6 weeks, but if he hasn't 'call this number'. Ridiculous

[Redstar]

The link between tanning the coke and depression is well documented...if you indulge in Class A's just bear in mind...that piper needs to be paid.

[Guest]

Good point redstar. Some depression is induced, by abuse, inadvertently.

 

Some comes on unexpectedly, whether neurologically or psychologically.

 

Other cases, there's fuck all wrong with them. They're just shit people better off dead.

 

The medical profession can't afford to make the wrong diagnosis.

[spamspamspam]

The link between tanning the coke and depression is well documented...if you indulge in Class A's just bear in mind...that piper needs to be paid.

 

Tyrosine, vit D and bananas

 

Sulted

[fatjim]

A lot of people self diagnose these days. They might not necessarily be suffering from depression but just decide they are.

 

This happens a lot with dyslexia as well.

People can't spell and are very quick to self diagnose as being dyslexic.

 

Self medicating is better of course.

[dj_bollocks]

It is a terrible condition. I've seen it effect people close to me, plus some at work. The change in them is frightening and all consuming as well.

 

As Dj says, the wait on the NHS is frightening. My mate was in a bad way, eventually after much persuasion by family and friends he went to the docs. He was then referred by them and told he should hear something in around 6 weeks, but if he hasn't 'call this number'. Ridiculous

 

That's if you're even considered… You have to be borderline psychotic / suicidal to get help at the moment. Otherwise it's websites and/or sort it out yourself...

[dj_bollocks]

The depression self assessment is here… You be the judge...

 

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/depression.aspx

[fatjim]

The depression self assessment is here… You be the judge...

 

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/depression.aspx

 

Fuck according to that I am depressed but I felt my answers to the questions was more down to indifference.

[looksgoodinred]

an interesting read.

 

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/2010/10/20/being-suicidal-what-it-feels-like-to-want-to-kill-yourself/

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Jim Jeffries is a personal fav.

 

I wondered what he'd been doing since he left football!

[elephantstone78]

Depression is or can be debilitating. Your most powerful body part, your brain, not working properly and you can't put a plaster on it or rehab it like a wound or a leg break. Sure there are people who say they're depressed when a twat from One Direction breaks a finger nail, but depression is real, and like alcoholism, or an addiction it will always be there if you suffer from it. You just have to be able to cope with it, and if you're really lucky, you might be able to conquer it.

Good post.

Totally agree. Absolutely a real illness but a minority put it on to claim benefits and what not.

My mrs works in psychiatry and said u can spot the real ones from the fakes straight away. Same out GPs are not able to do likewise.

[elephantstone78]

Bye robin. You were a great actor and seemed a decent guy. A big talent never more do in your serious roles: dead poets society, good will hunting, one hour photo and good morning Vietnam. You were not good in Popeye however.

[Guest]

Good post.

Totally agree. Absolutely a real illness but a minority put it on to claim benefits and what not.

My mrs works in psychiatry and said u can spot the real ones from the fakes straight away. Shame our GPs are not able to do likewise.

 

I'm pretty sure they can. They're just obliged to go through the same diagnosis and treatment procedures and have to take their words for it.

 

The costs and risks of getting it wrong aren't worth it.

 

Munchausen by Proxy gets fame and bright lights but some of the fakers are Munchhausening themselves cos of their pathetic lives.

 

Doctors get used by the lonely and the attention they get fills a basic human void. Sad really but the way of the entitlement culture world we live in.

[looksgoodinred]

 

I'm pretty sure they can. They're just obliged to go through the same diagnosis and treatment procedures and have to take their words for it.

 

The costs and risks of getting it wrong aren't worth it.

 

Munchausen by Proxy gets fame and bright lights but some of the fakers are Munchhausening themselves cos of their pathetic lives.

 

Doctors get used by the lonely and the attention they get fills a basic human void. Sad really but the way of the entitlement culture world we live in.

 

don't forget too, that as much as the pharma industry charges, it costs health care systems less than actually spending time talking to people.by doctors as well as other professionals. sometimes what's needed is some encouragement and support, and to be able to talk through things, particularly with many people not located near close or extended family, and with community/social bonds not as strong as they used to be in many places.

 

and for those that are diagnosed with depression, they tend do better with talk therapy in addition to medication.

[dervish]

A lot of people self diagnose these days. They might not necessarily be suffering from depression but just decide they are.

 

This happens a lot with dyslexia as well.

People can't spell and are very quick to self diagnose as being dyslexic.

 

Self medicating is better of course.

 

How do you self medicate for dyslexia? Binge on alphabet spaghetti?

[fatjim]

 

How do you self medicate for dyslexia? Binge on alphabet spaghetti?

 

Don't be silly you just pop an E.

[Ke1t]

 

Don't be silly you just pop an E.

 

How would you be able to tell it was an E?

[CHICO]

Did people suffer from depression 50 years ago?

 

If so, why would it be a multi-zillion fold increase in the modern era?

 

Piss-weak people looking for a cop out?

 

Or pharma giants looking to make money and being helped along by the compliant NHS?

 

Dont comment on something you obv know fcku all

about..

Nothin to do with piss weak people.A friend of mine suffered

badly with depression and committed Suicide after his 2

Year stint serving in the Army in Northern Ireland

during the troubles..

How do you know whats going on in other folks heads.

If a kid of yours got burnt to death in a fire im sure you would be

Feckin depressed for a while after..

Think before you open your gob.

[lukas989]

I see Robin Williams as a guy whose death would have hit me way way harder if it had been just after Good Morning Vietnam; i.e someone who since then spoilied his legacy with the shite that was his career after that period (save for Good Will Hunting that made me greet like a big blouse). Much like Steve Martin. If he had died then - in his prime - he would have been up there with Jimmy Hendrix or Kurt Cobain or River Phoenix. Well Maybe no - but a lot closer.

[Guest]

Dont comment on something you obv know fcku all

about..

Nothin to do with piss weak people.A friend of mine suffered

badly with depression and committed Suicide after his 2

Year stint serving in the Army in Northern Ireland

during the troubles..

How do you know whats going on in other folks heads.

If a kid of yours got burnt to death in a fire im sure you would be

Feckin depressed for a while after..

Think before you open your gob.

No need to take that tone CHEEKO. If I know nothing about "it", educate me.

 

Given you don't know the difference between depression and sadness, I'm not holding my breath.

 

My best mate died when we were 20. My little brother died last year. These were completely unexpected. I've faced tragedy but I didn't get depressed. You missed the whole point.

[CHICO]

No need to take that tone CHEEKO. If I know nothing about "it", educate me.

Given you don't know the difference between depression and sadness, I'm not holding my breath.

My best mate died when we were 20. My little brother died last year. These were completely unexpected. I've faced tragedy but I didn't get depressed. You missed the whole point.

No 2 peoples brains work the same and have the same

Feelings and emotions.

Just because you never got depressed over happenings

doesnt mean that someone else doesnt.

Depression is a combination of things it also works with

Happiness..Tony Hancock And Spike Milligan both

Funny men who amused people to hide their depression.

Hancock took his life as well.

As for being weak, I think you would have to be strong

To take your life..

[Guest]

As I said, you missed the whole point. Had you read more than one post, which you didn't even consider the intent behind, you may have understood that everybody agrees that depression is a very real condition.

 

As for people having different thoughts, thank you for this nugget of wisdom. Squaddies suffer one of the highest suicide rates. We used to see the MP's getting them out of the lock up garages every week in Germany. The bigger question is why.

[CHICO]

I suppose you think the men nearly 1500 Who survived the Somme

And other battles of the first World War and who took their own

Lives after were weak as well...Feckin Hillarious dont you think..

[Guest]

I suppose you think the men nearly 1500 Who survived the Somme

And other battles of the first World War and who took their own

Lives after were weak as well...Feckin Hillarious dont you think..

Why would that be funny?

 

Are you a whack job cheeko?

[looksgoodinred]

As I said, you missed the whole point. Had you read more than one post, which you didn't even consider the intent behind, you may have understood that everybody agrees that depression is a very real condition.

 

As for people having different thoughts, thank you for this nugget of wisdom. Squaddies suffer one of the highest suicide rates. We used to see the MP's getting them out of the lock up garages every week in Germany. The bigger question is why.

 

why what, Rocket?

[Guest]

Why did squaddies kill themselves at an alarming rate? The MoD kept a kid on it but growing up, we saw it weekly.

[Guest]

Many of them were just before they were due to go back to Ulster for their next tour of duty.