Robin Williams - Deid...

[360]

Selfish drink-driver Alan Brazil adds his two cents...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqgLwDRdfvw

[CHICO]

Why would that be funny?

Are you a whack job cheeko?

No it was saying do you think it feckin Hillarious.

[Guest]

No it was saying do you think it feckin Hillarious.

Why would I?

 

What possible leap of ignorance could you take to lead you to think this even possible?

[CHICO]

I like Chicos posting style

 

Like angry poems

NOT LAST NITE BUT THE NITE BEFORE.

TWO TOM CATS CAME KNOCKING AT MY DOOR.

I WENT DOWN STAIRS TO LET THEM IN.

THEY KNOCKED ME DOWN WITH A ROLLIN PIN.

THE ROLLIN PIN WAS MADE OF BRASS.

SO I TURNED THEM ROUND AND SMACKED

THEM ASKED THEM ALL TO TEA AND ALL THE FAMILY.

[Guest]

Selfish drink-driver Alan Brazil adds his two cents...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqgLwDRdfvw

Brazil one of the biggest pricks on the planet.

[CHICO]

Why would I?

What possible leap of ignorance could you take to lead you to think this even possible?

Well you were the one posting that they were weak?

And in another saying better off without some.

And im far from ignorant loon...Just dont like folks who are

Judgemental of other peoples lives..

Who do you think you are judging people who have taken their life.

You the feckin Messiah or Superbeing or somethin.

Wouldnt surprise me your an inhabitant of ELLON...LOL

[looksgoodinred]

No need to take that tone CHEEKO. If I know nothing about "it", educate me.

 

Given you don't know the difference between depression and sadness, I'm not holding my breath.

 

My best mate died when we were 20. My little brother died last year. These were completely unexpected. I've faced tragedy but I didn't get depressed. You missed the whole point.

 

you seem like you're somewhat intractable, but i like you Rocket. and i'm glad you haven't had to suffer through a depression. x

[lukas989]

NOT LAST NITE BUT THE NITE BEFORE.

TWO TOM CATS CAME KNOCKING AT MY DOOR.

I WENT DOWN STAIRS TO LET THEM IN.

THEY KNOCKED ME DOWN WITH A ROLLIN PIN.

THE ROLLIN PIN WAS MADE OF BRASS.

SO I TURNED THEM ROUND AND SMACKED

THEM ASKED THEM ALL TO TEA AND ALL THE FAMILY.

 

Kind of fell by the way side at the end there. Otherwise - very Tupac or Biggie or whoever.

[Guest]

Well you were the one posting that they were weak?

And in another saying better off without some.

And im far from ignorant loon...Just dont like folks who are

Judgemental of other peoples lives..

Who do you think you are judging people who have taken their life.

You the feckin Messiah or Superbeing or somethin.

Wouldnt surprise me your an inhabitant of ELLON...LOL

 

Listen up you fucking moron.

 

I did NOT say that all depressives were weak. Some of us acknowledged the claimant culture wankers that abuse the system. I was talking about the frustrations that the medical profession face and the exploitation of this new depressed population phenomenon that results in big profits for the pharmas.

 

I did NOT judge anybody who has committed suicide. On the contrary, I said that it was tragic and a waste.

 

Edit: That was a great poem. Thanks.

[Guest]

 

you seem like you're somewhat intractable, but i like you Rocket. and i'm glad you haven't had to suffer through a depression. x

 

Are you grooming me? How do I know you're not a bunny boiler? x x x

[looksgoodinred]

 

Are you grooming me? How do I know you're not a bunny boiler? x x x

 

i'm just nice

but to be fair, you won't lol but regardless, you're safe enough tucked away here on the Hat i expect

x

[The Cockney Don]

NOT LAST NITE BUT THE NITE BEFORE.

TWO TOM CATS CAME KNOCKING AT MY DOOR.

I WENT DOWN STAIRS TO LET THEM IN.

THEY KNOCKED ME DOWN WITH A ROLLIN PIN.

THE ROLLIN PIN WAS MADE OF BRASS.

SO I TURNED THEM ROUND AND SMACKED

THEM ASKED THEM ALL TO TEA AND ALL THE FAMILY.

http://youtu.be/thL6DbBtnDM

[dj_bollocks]

http://youtu.be/thL6DbBtnDM

 

Too much cat… Not enough pussy...

[fatjim]

 

How would you be able to tell it was an E?

 

From the little picture on it and the dealer might inform you.

[caledonia]

Did more stuff than i thought

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000245/

[tup]

If you were dyslexic you might think you'd just bought 10 A's.

[fatjim]

If you were dyslexic you might think you'd just bought 10 A's.

 

I guess if you asked for 10 of them then you deserved it.

[Bobby Connor]

I found him funny in Mork and Mindy when I was five. He has never been to my taste as a comedian since. I don't like loud rabbity comedy and he was just trying too hard the whole time. Went to see Good Morning Veitnam in the cinema and he gave me fucking ear ache.

 

Still, it's quite a tragic story. Shame for his wife and his fans.

[ChutneyLove]

Ally Brazils defining moment in my eyes was blasting over the stands from 6 yards out in the last minute against the Russkis in Malaga '82. Destroyed a 9 year-olds dream of his World Cup party continuing in that split second. Prick.

[Poodler]

I'm depressed now. Just back in aberdeen. Ronnie wood and his bird were behind me in the duty free queue at Ibiza airport but I had the fear about speaking to him due to the fear everyone has at the end of that holiday. Now I'm depressed about it.

 

Williams looked arite in Peter Pan tights. I still have Brazil on every morning but he's tiresome, I wish H&J would get the morning slot

[ChutneyLove]

Poodles min! Welcome back. Your lack of photos from the topless beach in the 'Thought for the Day' thread was majorly disappointing. Glad you and the Poodless had a good time thouogh. How was Ronnie Wood looking, think I've got him in the death pool?

[Ke1t]

 

From the little picture on it and the dealer might inform you.

 

Yeah, dealers are well known for their integrity

[StandFree1982]

He was exceptional in Good Will Hunting. I've never really found him to be hugely funny, but some of his serious acting movies have been brilliant, including One Hour Photo, Good Will Hunting and Dead Poets Society.

[ChutneyLove]

However much of a tosspot Ally Brazil is, the folk pouncing on him now are typical of the facebook fanny world we now live in. Self righteous pricks. Brazil happens to think that people who commit suicide are selfish - his opinion and as a broadcaster for a trashy radio station he is paid to give them. Big fuckin' deal. I saw a photo on a report today of Williams in a shop two weeks ago. Fuck me, if I had seen that snap before I had picked my death pool he would have been straight in as el capitano.

[caledonia]

Police believe arson

But i Doubtfire

[Poodler]

Poodles min! Welcome back. Your lack of photos from the topless beach in the 'Thought for the Day' thread was majorly disappointing. Glad you and the Poodless had a good time thouogh. How was Ronnie Wood looking, think I've got him in the death pool?

He's looking chipper min, you've no chance there. And his bird is sound aswell. She's a wee foreign dirty, one that you would happily let dump on your chest.

 

Sorry about the lack of pictures, I never took my phone out at all, too much blacks around and was too drunk. I'll be back in your thread tonight

[fatjim]

 

Yeah, dealers are well known for their integrity

 

Come on that is a bit of a generalisation.

 

I met my wife through my dealer. At no extra cost I may add.

[BrianFaePerth]

 

 

 

I met my wife through my dealer. At no extra cost I may add.

 

He just charged you the same hourly rate? Decent of him.

[fatjim]

 

He just charged you the same hourly rate? Decent of him.

 

No just a one off fee. Well done in spotting the subtetly of my comment though.

 

[dj_bollocks]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/13/two-thirds-britons-not-treated-depression

 

Two-thirds of Britons with depression get no treatment

 

If these figures related to cancer patients the nation would be in uproar, says new president of Royal College of Psychiatrists

Sarah Boseley, health editor

 

theguardian.com, Wednesday 13 August 2014 13.13 BST

The gap between treatment for mental and physical illnesses may prove impossible to bridge, says Professor Simon Wessely. Photograph: PhotoAlto /Alamy

Less than a third of people with common mental health problems get any treatment at all – a situation the nation would not tolerate if they had cancer, according to the incoming president of the Royal College of Psychiatrists.

While the health secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has pledged to deliver "parity of esteem" for mental and physical health services, the treatment gap is now so huge that it may prove impossible to bridge in the current financial climate, said Professor Simon Wessely of King's College London in his first interview since election to the post.

"People are still routinely waiting for – well, we don't really know, but certainly more than 18 weeks, possibly up to two years, for their treatment and that is routine in some parts of the country. Some children aren't getting any treatment at all – literally none. That's what's happening. So although we have the aspiration, the gap is now so big and yet there is no more money," he said.

"I'm giving a talk soon. I'm thinking of starting it: 'So, we have a problem in cancer service at the moment. Only 30% of people with cancer are getting treatment, so 70% of them don't get any treatment for their cancer at all and it's not even recognised.' And there will be a pause and I will say, 'OK – I'm not talking about cancer, but if I was, you'd be absolutely appalled and you would be screaming from the rooftops.'"

Wessely said he had asked Simon Stevens, the NHS England chief executive, how the gap would be bridged but was told that resolving the issue would involve a "much longer conversation with the public".

"I think what he means is basically, if people really want true parity in the sense of actual 90% of mental health patients are treated within 18 weeks, just like they are for other disorders, that is going to have to mean money will have to move from acute to mental health. Genuine money.

"As there is no more money, that would mean significant losses in other sectors. I think he was saying we would need a pretty good political imperative – we would need to know that people were actually on board for that – and I don't know the answer."

A larger proportion of people with psychosis, who have severe mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, are on treatment, but even that figure is still only 65%, according to Wessely, who added: "That doesn't mean they are getting the right treatment or anything like that, but getting something. For most mental disorders it is still the exception not the rule to be recognised, detected and treated. So when we talk about the rise in antidepressant prescribing, before we start leaping to the tundrils and saying the world's coming to an end we should have a look and say, hang on a second, if that is appropriate prescribing then that's good."

The concern over pills for common mental disorders – for depression, anxiety and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), for instance – could be misplaced, Wessely argued. Much of the criticism assumes that GPs are putting many more people on pills because of an absence of counselling or talking therapies, even though the numbers of therapists being trained to provide cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) has substantially risen thanks to a government programme called IAPT (improving access to psychological therapies).

Wessely applauded IAPT but did not accept the argument that talking therapies were necessarily "better", a word that to many people has a moral implication. "If you say they are more effective, I don't really think that's true. I think they are cheaper and easier. CBT is more popular with some people but other people don't like it," he said. "The truth is most people don't get either.

Of course if you are working in areas of high antidepressant prescribing – they tend to be difficult areas like Merthyr Tydfil or Blackpool – of course where you don't have good psychological services then you will use antidepressants. That's not wrong, but what's wrong is you don't have the alternatives."

In the US, the rate of use of stimulant drugs such as Ritalin exceeds the number of people with ADHD, so there is over-medication of the disorder. "But in Britain it is under, which suggests under-prescribing."

The UK is also seriously short of psychiatric beds. "The fact that people are travelling hundreds of miles for a bed, the fact that bed occupancy is now 100% everywhere – in some trusts it is 110% and we're hot-bedding – is a symptom of a system [in crisis].

Relatives and patients hate it. Junior doctors hate it – they spend all their time on the phone. Sometimes bad decisions are made just to get a bed. But we don't think the answer is just let us have some more beds because those will probably fill up as well.

We've been told for years that if we just get community care right we won't need beds. That's clearly not true. We will be announcing a commission on beds but it's really on systems. Beds are symptomatic of a problem."

Wessely, who is married to Clare Gerada, recent head of the Royal College of GPs, strongly believes in the need for general doctors, nurses, midwives and social workers to have more mental health training and for there to be much greater integration of diagnosis and treatment of physical and mental disorders. Trials have shown that picking up and treating depression in people with type 2 diabetes improves the control they have over the disease: they take their medication and keep complications at bay.

And there are patients who are referred by their GP to a specialist because of a suspected heart complaint - which turns out to be panic attacks that have not been picked up for months.

"The whole of our healthcare system is about separating mental and physical. You couldn't devise a system better suited to separating the mental and the physical if you tried," he said. At Kings, psychiatrists have been put into general medical clinics with great results. "Most people have quite complicated views of their illness anyway," he said. They are not resistant to doctors offering cardiac tests and counselling for a recent divorce at the same time.

"Certainly when you look at the cost of investigations, when you look at the cost of treatment that isn't necessary, when you look at the cost of lost working days, when you look at the cost of additional care, actually it does become cost effective. The problem we always have is those savings are not always made to the health service.

"But we know people with physical health problems who also have mental health problems cost about 45% more than those who don't. That's absolutely and unequivocally clear. The cost of their care goes up. They comply less with treatment, they come back more often, they have lower satisfaction and they have more complications."

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