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Goodwillie Rape Accusations

dj_bollocks

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As far as I'm aware there is no legal definition for a woman taking advantage of a man. It's not called rape anyway.

I'm pretty sure it is. Google at work is deciding it's on it's lunch break, but was there not a case of two lassies capturing a guy and raping him whilst he was tied up? The poor bastard certainly wasn't lucky as they were both absolute monsters iirc.

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I'm pretty sure it is. Google at work is deciding it's on it's lunch break, but was there not a case of two lassies capturing a guy and raping him whilst he was tied up? The poor bastard certainly wasn't lucky as they were both absolute monsters iirc.

If he's not aroused then how does he get hard?

 

http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/commonmyths2.php

 

"In law, only a man can commit the offence of Rape [sec 1 (1) SOA 2003], as this is defined as penetration with a penis. Non-consensual penetration with something other than a penis is defined as Sexual Assault by Penetration. For those who've experienced sexual violence that involved penetration by something other than a penis, whoever the perpetrator was, these legal definitions can feel restrictive, and as if their experience is not considered as serious".

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If he's not aroused then how does he get hard?

 

http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/commonmyths2.php

 

"In law, only a man can commit the offence of Rape [sec 1 (1) SOA 2003], as this is defined as penetration with a penis. Non-consensual penetration with something other than a penis is defined as Sexual Assault by Penetration. For those who've experienced sexual violence that involved penetration by something other than a penis, whoever the perpetrator was, these legal definitions can feel restrictive, and as if their experience is not considered as serious".

Fucking hell, never realised that. I'd just assumed that all non consensual sex was rape.

 

Viagra could have been used or much like from the female perspective he could have been to drunk to know and consent to what he was doing. Seems like a daft argument that "well he managed to get it up" is essentially what is being used to prevent non consensual female on male sex being described as rape.

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Fucking hell, never realised that. I'd just assumed that all non consensual sex was rape.

 

Viagra could have been used or much like from the female perspective he could have been to drunk to know and consent to what he was doing. Seems like a daft argument that "well he managed to get it up" is essentially what is being used to prevent non consensual female on male sex being described as rape.

I actually found it out on here, ha ha.

 

Viagra doesn't make you sexually aroused min. You need to be aroused for it to work. I stuck it in a boy at works drink once and then panicked, thought if I stuck one in my drink too it would soften the blow if he had a heart attack or something. Neither of us ended up with stiffies but I had a mad sensation running up and down my legs.

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DD1903 Grand Master

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That's not the Scottish definition, but it is very similar. I'd imagine a guy being forced to pump a burd would be some sort of sexual assualt. The new definition of rape in Scotland now includes males raping males. Used to be sodomy for that.

 

The Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2009 states that rape occurs when a person intentionally or recklessly penetrates another person’s vagina, anus or mouth with their penis, where the victim does not consent and the person responsible has no reasonable belief that the victim is giving consent.

 

In circumstances where penetration is initially consented to but consent is later withdrawn, the person responsible will have committed rape.

 

The victim can be male or female.

 

http://www.wecanstopit.co.uk/what_is_the_law.aspx

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I actually found it out on here, ha ha.

 

Viagra doesn't make you sexually aroused min. You need to be aroused for it to work. I stuck it in a boy at works drink once and then panicked, thought if I stuck one in my drink too it would soften the blow if he had a heart attack or something. Neither of us ended up with stiffies but I had a mad sensation running up and down my legs.

Pun very much intended I hope :laughing:

 

Well fuck me, every day's a school day. Might need to do a bit of reading up on viagra. I hadn't realised that it didn't just raise the sail regardless of circumstances.

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If he's not aroused then how does he get hard?

 

http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/commonmyths2.php

 

"In law, only a man can commit the offence of Rape [sec 1 (1) SOA 2003], as this is defined as penetration with a penis. Non-consensual penetration with something other than a penis is defined as Sexual Assault by Penetration. For those who've experienced sexual violence that involved penetration by something other than a penis, whoever the perpetrator was, these legal definitions can feel restrictive, and as if their experience is not considered as serious".

 

 

Scots Law is different.

 

And women have in the past been convicted of the Common Law offence of Rape - defined as "forcibly inserting their male member into another without consent".

 

This was an "art and part" conviction - "aiding and abetting" as it is more widely (but incorrectly) known.

 

If you are guilty of an offence by art and part, you are guilty of the same offence as if you actually carried it out on your own.

 

In the example above, a women assisted a man in raping a women by restraining her.

 

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I believe the worst a women can be prosecuted with at the moment would be "sexual assault"

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