The Hobbit Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I think Brown and Thompson will be in his first match squad, if they arent, he's a mad man. In fact Whittaker should be in with a shout as well, he's a great player. Agree 100% Brown, Thompson, Gow, Maloney and Whittaker should all be brought into the squad ASAP. With Burke, O Connor and Riordan not far behind. Link to comment
Guest CAPSLOCK Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Cared enough to post!! YEAH, I CARED ENOUGH TO HIT REPLY AND TYPE A DOZEN WORDS. YOU GOT ME. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Someone must have worked wonders with him then, because he was mostly useless for us. bollocks. i agree with yer point about brown and thomson tho. i reckon those 2 along with burke, adam, hart, wilson and riordan should all be in there. dropping pressley weir dailly murty murray neilson and hughes. Link to comment
Bobby Peru Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I think Brown and Thompson will be in his first match squad, if they arent, he's a mad man. In fact Whittaker should be in with a shout as well, he's a great player. we shouldn't read too much into this squad, i suppose. if this is just an introduce the new management team exercise, then fine. but why berti failures like richard hughes and steven thompson are involved is a little baffling, when those we suspect WILL be involved in the first competitive games, such as brown, kevin thompson, shaun maloney (forgot about him for a mo) and derek riordan, aren't. Link to comment
The Hobbit Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 we shouldn't read too much into this squad, i suppose. if this is just an introduce the new management team exercise, then fine. but why berti failures like richard hughes and steven thompson are involved is a little baffling, when those we suspect WILL be involved in the first competitive games, such as brown, kevin thompson, shaun maloney (forgot about him for a mo) and derek riordan, aren't. The only reason to bring people to such a gathering is becasue he intends to pick them. To have a get together of players for training/meet the management/bonding without Maloney, Brown, K Thompson and Gow beggars belief. Link to comment
MG_Don Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Robbie Neilson who has hardly played in the last few months or Michael Hart who's played really well all season. It doesn't take a genius, well you wouldn't think so anyway. Link to comment
snoyl Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I think thier should have been more hibs players if am honest and a little surprised thier isn't after all aren't they the heart of the samba playing football?? A few other players that shoudn't be in the squad yet again!!! I think it would really piss me off and you wonder why people don't want to play for thier country!!! Link to comment
K-9 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Robbie Neilson who has hardly played in the last few months or Michael Hart who's played really well all season. It doesn't take a genius, well you wouldn't think so anyway.But remember McLeish has bee out of the country for a few months in Australia so is basically picking the players now who got the team into the great position they find themselves in, will watch them and then decide which ones he wants to keep and which ones he wants to replace. Link to comment
JimmyJimmy Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Is McFadden not injured at the moment and expected to take quite a while to recover? I think it would make more sense to get a player who is actually fit? Astonished Maloney is not there, Link to comment
Guest El Padre Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 bollocks. McNaughton didn't even know what position he played when he was with us, and that wasn't just a calderwood thing. He could run, and dribble a bit, apart from that he had absolutely nothing. Cant pass, cant cross, cant tackle. Useless. Link to comment
paulkaneatemyhamster Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 McNaughton didn't even know what position he played when he was with us, and that wasn't just a calderwood thing. He could run, and dribble a bit, apart from that he had absolutely nothing. Cant pass, cant cross, cant tackle. Useless. wouldn't say he was usesless, but his best role was as right full back, although he played well along side Anderson for a bit, and with Hart in the team would he get a regualr game ? Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 McNaughton didn't even know what position he played when he was with us, and that wasn't just a calderwood thing. He could run, and dribble a bit, apart from that he had absolutely nothing. Cant pass, cant cross, cant tackle. Useless. I agree with most of that.... he wasn't useless, I'd rather have him than Byrne or fozzie, but he wasn't much better. Some people need to dry their eyes and remember the below par performances McNaughton would consistantly provide time after time, rather than the occassional fancy turn against Rangers. He will be found out in the Championship. Link to comment
K-9 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Most of the touted players have been announced to play in up and coming B International SCOTLAND B SQUAD Goalkeepers Paul Gallacher (Norwich City) Allan McGregor (Rangers) Defenders Christophe Berra (Heart of Midlothian) Kirk Broadfoot (St Mirren) Gordon Greer (Kilmarnock) Jay McEveley (Derby County) Steven Whittaker (Hibernian) Midfield Charlie Adam (Rangers) Scott Brown (Hibernian) Chris Clark (Aberdeen) Stephen Pearson (Derby County) Michael Stewart (Hibernian) Kevin Thomson (Hibernian) Forwards Craig Beattie (Celtic) Alan Gow (Falkirk) Shaun Maloney (Celtic) Darren Mackie (Aberdeen) Derek Riordan (Celtic) Link to comment
The Hobbit Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Most of the touted players have been announced to play in up and coming B International SCOTLAND B SQUAD Goalkeepers Paul Gallacher (Norwich City) Allan McGregor (Rangers) Defenders Christophe Berra (Heart of Midlothian) Kirk Broadfoot (St Mirren) Gordon Greer (Kilmarnock) Jay McEveley (Derby County) Steven Whittaker (Hibernian) Midfield Charlie Adam (Rangers) Scott Brown (Hibernian) Chris Clark (Aberdeen) Stephen Pearson (Derby County) Michael Stewart (Hibernian) Kevin Thomson (Hibernian) Forwards Craig Beattie (Celtic) Alan Gow (Falkirk) Shaun Maloney (Celtic) Darren Mackie (Aberdeen) Derek Riordan (Celtic) Yup, just saw that. I thought the young loon from Hibs (Fletcher) might get a shout for this as well. Hopefully McLeish is just honouring the call ups to the main squad get together and will use the chance to tell Weir et al to GTF. Link to comment
cowie06 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Most of the touted players have been announced to play in up and coming B International SCOTLAND B SQUAD Goalkeepers Paul Gallacher (Norwich City) Allan McGregor (Rangers) Defenders Christophe Berra (Heart of Midlothian) Kirk Broadfoot (St Mirren) Gordon Greer (Kilmarnock) Jay McEveley (Derby County) Steven Whittaker (Hibernian) Midfield Charlie Adam (Rangers) Scott Brown (Hibernian) Chris Clark (Aberdeen) Stephen Pearson (Derby County) Michael Stewart (Hibernian) Kevin Thomson (Hibernian) Forwards Craig Beattie (Celtic) Alan Gow (Falkirk) Shaun Maloney (Celtic) Darren Mackie (Aberdeen) Derek Riordan (Celtic) Not a bad squad but why is clark there , been mureder for us all season . Link to comment
KGB Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I agree with most of that.... he wasn't useless, I'd rather have him than Byrne or fozzie, but he wasn't much better. Some people need to dry their eyes and remember the below par performances McNaughton would consistantly provide time after time, rather than the occassional fancy turn against Rangers. He will be found out in the Championship. Overhyped sh*t quality league so Im not sure that he will bearing in mind guys like Holt and MacKay shone in it. Link to comment
Bobby Peru Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Overhyped sh*t quality league so Im not sure that he will bearing in mind guys like Holt and MacKay shone in it. exactly what i was thinking, min. can't imagine burnley vs colchester being overflowing with champagne football that would put the spl to shame. super kev and steven thomson have done okay in that league because they were okay spl players. the standard's no better than it is up here. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Overhyped sh*t quality league so Im not sure that he will bearing in mind guys like Holt and MacKay shone in it. I watch Gary Holt regularly, he has been playing in League 1 for the past couple of years, not the Championship. I would say "shining" is the wrong adjective to describe his most recent performances. Link to comment
MoInMaryhill Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Good call, my immediate impression of that squad was the fact that the frontline definetly lacked depth. Everyone makes mistakes, o'connor should definetly be recalled. Also waht about gary mcsheffrey? elidgible to play for us and ireland, what are the odds he goes to them instead I didn't know he was eligible for us, but if McLeish doesn't know, someone needs to tell him. He'll be a Premiership footballer next season, and judging by the scoring charts is far better in the same division that Thompson (who meritied a cal up). As for all the negativity about certain selections (e.g. Neilson), the basic issue is that there is no-one better (Hart is no better than Neilson, so why would he be picked?). I'm both surprised and disappointed that O'Connor, Burke, Maloney, Gow, Riordan and the Hibs trio are not selected though. It's particularly ridiculous (and hopefully not a sign of things to come) that McLeish expects O'Connor to apologise: "Er, hi boss. I've had some personal problems and missed a shift with the last boss a few months back, so I thought I'd better apologise to you urgently". How about: "Garry, you're probably the second best striker we have, and the only one with some variety in his CV, I know you've had personal issues recently, but that's in the past and I'd love to see you turn up next week and forget about the last few months." ? Sigh... Link to comment
JimmyJimmy Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I think what McLeish has to do is inject some youth into the squad. We're building a team for the future (2008/2010) yet we persist with the same old sh*te on our next qualifying failure. I think we should be looking at The Netherlands as an example, with their youthful squad who most likely will all be playing in the next EURO and World Cup competitions with so much experience under their belt already. Link to comment
K-9 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I didn't know he was eligible for us, but if McLeish doesn't know, someone needs to tell him. He'll be a Premiership footballer next season, and judging by the scoring charts is far better in the same division that Thompson (who meritied a cal up). As for all the negativity about certain selections (e.g. Neilson), the basic issue is that there is no-one better (Hart is no better than Neilson, so why would he be picked?). I'm both surprised and disappointed that O'Connor, Burke, Maloney, Gow, Riordan and the Hibs trio are not selected though. It's particularly ridiculous (and hopefully not a sign of things to come) that McLeish expects O'Connor to apologise: "Er, hi boss. I've had some personal problems and missed a shift with the last boss a few months back, so I thought I'd better apologise to you urgently". How about: "Garry, you're probably the second best striker we have, and the only one with some variety in his CV, I know you've had personal issues recently, but that's in the past and I'd love to see you turn up next week and forget about the last few months." ? Sigh...O'Connor went awol and left Scotland in the sh*t and too late to get in a replacement. He has to apologise for this and hasn't!! Link to comment
ZeroTolerance Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Maybe McLeish was at the game last night and feels Naismith is worth adding to the squad.. .. .. .. Also needs to check the availability of McSheffrey, another useful striker to have. Get O'Connor to f*ck, he lets his country down, he doesn't deserve another stab at it as he still hasn't apologised.Did David Weir apologise for letting Scotland down? He basically pi$$ed off in the huff because his manager criticised him (and Chris Dailly) for a bad performance against a poor team. Dailly sucked it up and became one of Vogts most important players - Weir didn't and should have never pulled on the dark blue again. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Did David Weir apologise for letting Scotland down? He basically pi$$ed off in the huff because his manager criticised him (and Chris Dailly) for a bad performance against a poor team. Dailly sucked it up and became one of Vogts most important players - Weir didn't and should have never pulled on the dark blue again. i totally agree with this. weir spat the dummy and only got a call up when his bum buddie came along and got the scotland job. hopefully big eck will see that he is too old now to be playng against top level international teams and drop him along with pressley and dailly and replace them with anderson mcmanus and webster. Link to comment
K-9 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Did David Weir apologise for letting Scotland down? He basically pi$$ed off in the huff because his manager criticised him (and Chris Dailly) for a bad performance against a poor team. Dailly sucked it up and became one of Vogts most important players - Weir didn't and should have never pulled on the dark blue again.Completely agree - once you turn your back on your country there should be no return!! Link to comment
BTR Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Nobody knows the facts RE: O'Connor other than it was a family problem. I think the vast majority of people would put their family first in such an instance. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Nobody knows the facts RE: O'Connor other than it was a family problem. I think the vast majority of people would put their family first in such an instance. i dont believe for one second it was a family problem. if it was he wouldnt have been left out of the squad. 99% of bosses will understand if an employee has family issues that need to be dealt with immediately, the same goes in football Link to comment
K-9 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 i dont believe for one second it was a family problem. if it was he wouldnt have been left out of the squad. 99% of bosses will understand if an employee has family issues that need to be dealt with immediately, the same goes in footballFamily problem it may have been but to just not show up with no warning and no phone call, hitting the back pages still no phone call to anyone at SFA then his agent phones up SFA apologising on O'Connor's behalf despite not knowing where he was either. Despite everything O'Connor still never apologised to anyone over the whole thing so can rot in Russia for all i care!! Hasn't played since November anyway. Link to comment
BTR Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 The "official" line was that he had a family problem. However, the story I heard was a little more sinister, although it was supposedly fuelled by his family problems. It's such a waste of a talent, regardless of what went wrong. In my opinion, he is the most complete striker we have. Hopefully he can get a move to a decent side and put his problems behind him. Link to comment
Baggy89 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 judging by the scoring charts is far better in the same division that Thompson (who meritied a cal up). If we're going by scoring charts Iwelumo should be called up also, 15 in the league this season. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 The "official" line was that he had a family problem. However, the story I heard was a little more sinister, although it was supposedly fuelled by his family problems. It's such a waste of a talent, regardless of what went wrong. In my opinion, he is the most complete striker we have. Hopefully he can get a move to a decent side and put his problems behind him. i also heard a much more sinister story. i agree he is the complete striker but i still dont buy the family problems line. as K-9 said he could have picked up the phone which would have taken all of 30 seconds. Link to comment
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