Byrne Baby Byrne Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Fuck me I'm bored the nicht. Rare Saturday 3pm'r this weekend against Glasgow's 3rd most successful team (after Celtic & Queens Park of course) Brown Logan Taylor Reynolds Considine Jack McLean Hayes McGinn Rooney Shankland 2-0 Aberdeen 13,424 crowd Link to comment
The Boofon Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 League will be well and truly over if we drop points. We'll win. I also think St Mirren might fluke a result against the paedos on Friday. Fucking hope so anyway. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Saturday 3pm at home seems rare these days. Hopefully Reynolds has had plenty of time to recover after being away on international duty. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Saturday 3pm at home seems rare these days. Hopefully Reynolds has had plenty of time to recover after being away on international duty.Takes a while to pick splinters off your arse from sitting on the bench! Link to comment
dave_min Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Takes a while to pick splinters off your arse from sitting on the bench!He didn't even make the bench Link to comment
The Boofon Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 He didn't even make the bench Not surprised. His carpentry skills are atrocious. 2 Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 He didn't even make the benchHe did against Northern Ireland though. Chances are he was sitting on a seat somewhere in the stadium, probably not a wooden one! In fact, the whole splinter thing doesn't really make sense anymore... Not surprised. His carpentry skills are atrocious. Link to comment
dave_min Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 He did against Northern Ireland though. Chances are he was sitting on a seat somewhere in the stadium, probably not a wooden one! In fact, the whole splinter thing doesn't really make sense anymore... I accept your apology. 1 Link to comment
Tommy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Proper fitba's back.In.4-1 AFC.Rooney 2Considine 1Shankland1OG Langfield. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Be weird not being in the pub at 3pm on a Sat Link to comment
reekie_dock Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Am back in after long absence since the Tims game. Will be enjoying the good company oh big Ebbe and all his encouraging words for Langfield Shankland to break into squad and score on his first start oh the season..... 2-0 shankland and rooney Link to comment
Tord31 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I am hoping by Shankland getting taken off at exactly 60 mins today that it has been decided he is starting on Saturday. Also no u20s game until mid April so got to unleash him. Two injury worries only it would appear. Anderson (who many had thought would show face for Consi match) and Hayes (who is back doing some training) Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Driver in contention for a start as well Link to comment
The Boofon Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Driver in contention for a start as wellNot sure if that's deliberate. Link to comment
Site Sponsor RTYD Posted March 31, 2015 Site Sponsor Share Posted March 31, 2015 I may be missing something but I don't think Driver looked at all match fit in the last game he played...okay an assist for Rooney goal but other than that he didn't do much of note in previous game when played out wide. Unless he's to be played behind the striker, I don't feel he deserves to start.Behind the striker is I think his best position. Link to comment
dave_min Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I may be missing something but I don't think Driver looked at all match fit in the last game he played...okay an assist for Rooney goal but other than that he didn't do much of note in previous game when played out wide. Unless he's to be played behind the striker, I don't feel he deserves to start.Definitely nae fit. Looks like he's still a decent enough player mind. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Not sure if that's deliberate.:-) Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 I just don't think we are good enough to ignore someone banging them in like Shankland is. We played Rooney wide and gave Goodwillie a run through the middle. Rooney was still banging them in and we won 70 games in a row without conceding. Worth a go against Partick in my opinion Link to comment
Tord31 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 If Hayes is fit then perhaps wait a bit longer but if there is no Hayes then 100% get Rooney wide left and Shankland in from the start Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Wouldn't drop Rooney for Shankland, wouldn't move Rooney out of position to fit Shankland in, wouldn't try and shoehorn Shankland in in an unfamiliar position just to get him in the team. Looked OK when he's come on for us, but until he scored for the Scotland u21's last week I don't think he's really done anything someone like McManus hadn't done before him. Gaffer will know when the time is right to start him, probably if and when the league is out of sight, we're almost guaranteed 2nd and Rooney has hit his 30. Maybe cos he's nae (firstly) been given the chance as main/central striker & (secondly) cos he's only been given around 15 mins (if that) on average in all his games he's been given OUT OF POSITION. Hard to prove yourself in those circumstances. I'm not saying drop Rooney but maybe (when shanky does get his chances to come on) shove Rooney wide/in behind him rather than tother way about. Reckon Shankland would have had as many as Rooney this season given the same game time & position saying that because given the chances Rooney has also missed. His actual return percentage is nae that great in reality. Great compared to strikers of the recent past but he's actually missed a helluvalot of chances. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Based on what exactly? Shankland had also missed chances Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Based on what exactly? Shankland had also missed chancesAll about percentages (as stated in my post) Rooneys return whilst it is great compared to recent strikers is nae that fantastic given the amount of chances he's actually had. McGinns record was a lot better than his a couple of seasons ago & from less actual chances. Obviously haven't gone into this in massive detail & researched it but pretty sure (based on attending games) most would agree. Link to comment
anderson72 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Rubbish about Rooneys percentages, he has good return rate.Rooneys holds the ball up well and is strong, and also has a strikers / poachers brain, which had help, net him a few goals.Rooney has good track record at this level, and works weĺl in the teams type of play. Shankland I like a lot, he will become a very good player, and congratulations to Aberdeen for seeing his potential, but its Rooney for me before throwing in the raising star, as we want to win the game, get the points in the bag and then throw caution to the wind, and start changing key personnel in team line ups. Rant finished Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Rubbish about Rooneys percentages, he has good return rate.Rooneys holds the ball up well and is strong, and also has a strikers / poachers brain, which had help, net him a few goals.Rooney has good track record at this level, and works weĺl in the teams type of play. Shankland I like a lot, he will become a very good player, and congratulations to Aberdeen for seeing his potential, but its Rooney for me before throwing in the raising star, as we want to win the game, get the points in the bag and then throw caution to the wind, and start changing key personnel in team line ups. Rant finished I'm not arguing that he's a good TALLY but his actual return rate for chances is WORSE than that of McGinn's from a couple of seasons ago as our main striker. Try arguing that Rooney hasn't had MORE chances from our more attacking play than McGinn did when he was played as our main striker. Rooney may have a decent work rate etc. but he is basically a penalty box striker & that is it. Don't mistake my opinion on this as me seeing this as a negative. Shankland would return as much as Rooney imo because I think he has more to his game than Rooney than just a penalty box striker. His inexperience at top level would reduce his return but even then it would be as much as Rooney given same game time & preferred position. This is all just my opinion & you are entitled to treat it as BS but the stats between Rooney & McGinn are there for all to see. Link to comment
buchanskii Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 We were too quick to get rid of Zola and Magennis imo. Zolas shower room presence alone struck fear into the opposition and put vulgar thoughts into the female populous support, thus increasing attendance. Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Rooney makes a lot of chances by being in the right place at the right time. McGinns goals per shot ratio was higher that season. Everything he hit seemed to go in including the shots from areas that now hit the wood work. Rooney is with out a doubt the best striker we have had for ages, play him up top. Wether you add Shankland up there with him is a different matter. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Shankland currently has a 0% goals to chances ratio You are talking drivel Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I can't see how anyone can say Shankland would be on the same goal tally of Rooney with any degree of certainty given he's completely unproven at any level above youth/League 1. I'm hopeful he'll be a player, but demanding he's thrown up top and our 25 goal striker has to make way isn't the way I'd play it at this stage of the season. Not altogether comfortable with the hype and pressure that's on the boy already, hopefully he'll have what it takes to handle it unlike Fyvie etc.Rooney is a 15 goal striker. Do not kid yourself on with the Euro goals.We're talking league goals & this seasons top scorers (in all teams) are pretty low on average as far as league form goes. Shankland will thrive on the pressure. Give him the chance & he'll prove it (only my opinion mind) If we had your kind of trust/opinion in young players, the likes of Jess would never have been the player he was for us. Shankland currently has a 0% goals to chances ratio You are talking drivelShankland has NOT been given any game time up front as main striker. He's been given the odd fleeting chance as "in the hole" type striker when we are no longer pushing for goals. I'm not advocating "dropping" Rooney for him (not in the slightest) but I do say we need to give him a fairer crack of the whip. Let Rooney drop in a little when Shankland comes on for a change.Stick DG down the pecking order BEHIND Shanky for a while as well. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Would give him longer off the bench for sure, I think the way he's been playing at a lower level makes him a fantastic option to come on when we need a spark. I think that probably seems the most logical. We've given Smith and Low a crazy amount of chances in comparison, both who have offered very little. Based on what exactly? Shankland had also missed chances Alas, someone else has also noticed this. Link to comment
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