maryhilldon Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 So its an offence to pickup a bird in a club or bar then go back to hers for a shag, unless she's drinking soft drinks!? Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 No, it's you who's missing the point. Not enough evidence to prove "beyond reasonable doubt" in a Criminal case but there's enough evidence to prove based on the "balance of probabilities" required in a Civil case. It's pretty simple to understand. It's basically the judge guessing what happened. Not exactly fair. Civil court should be for civil offences, not crimes like rape. 1 Link to comment
Pudgie Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 It's basically the judge guessing what happened. Not exactly fair. Civil court should be for civil offences, not crimes like rape.I think thats what everyone is struggling with. Would you see a murder (obviously with the grieving family claiming damages) go through civil court? It seems to be that the judge sided not on evidence given but with the quality of witness. Being a good witness can win you a civil case and being branded a rapist without conclusive is a dangerous precedent to set. And I'm not saying either party is innocent or guilty in this I just think it should be a matter for criminal courts only. Link to comment
Parklife Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I think thats what everyone is struggling with. Would you see a murder (obviously with the grieving family claiming damages) go through civil court? .Possibly the most famous murders in history resulted in a civil case and award. OJ Simpson was taken to a civil court by Ron Goldman's family and forced to make a massive pay out. 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Possibly the most famous murders in history resulted in a civil case and award. OJ Simpson was taken to a civil court by Ron Goldman's family and forced to make a massive pay out.Different country, different legal system. Daft Americans can entertain that pish all they want. Shouldn't be happening here. 1 1 Link to comment
Pudgie Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Possibly the most famous murders in history resulted in a civil case and award. OJ Simpson was taken to a civil court by Ron Goldman's family and forced to make a massive pay out. As moobs said, in America where it seems like people would rather take a civil case than a criminal one and sue their asses off. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Mods - please delete the elements of this thread that imply Aberdeen fans think non-consensual sex is ok. I'm just glad the cunt never played for us when this was announced- the fact he is an ex-player we signed in full knowledge of the circumstances is embarrassing enough 2 2 Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Your house parties would be shit.Nah mate- all the birds I invite are well up for it! Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 This is like the OJ Simpson trial all over again. Goodwillie is pretty much finished I'd say.I'm hearing he is going out clubbing this weekend. Link to comment
HairyPie Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 If having sex with someone when you're blind drunk and doing things you wouldn't normally do when sober is a crime, then there are at least a score of fat ugly bitches I should be taking civil action against. 3 Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Because the level of proof is completely different. No, the moral of the story is don't rape drunk women. This is of course correct. But in fact, it goes well beyond this because it's more if a case of : Dont even shag drunk women if they consent as they might change their mind the following day and turn against you. Makes you wonder if the same would apply to a guy who was that drunk and a woman insisted he have sex despite him not "being fit to consent"? Link to comment
RAZOR Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 One thing's for sure Bluto is in the clear.Main evidence being that he's still a virgin. 1 Link to comment
reekie_dock Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 And most women are still sober enough to knock him back before 8pm 2 Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 One thing's for sure Bluto is in the clear.He's deemed nae fit to consent even when sober. Link to comment
a don in oz Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 It's basically the judge guessing what happened. Not exactly fair. Civil court should be for civil offences, not crimes like rape. That. Very much that. Totally disagree with civil court being used to find someone guilty of a crime that a criminal court said they couldn't take anywhere, especially something as absolutely destroying to a person's reputation as this.If he raped someone, then a judge should have said let's roll in criminal court. Let the peers do their thing, find guilty and sentence the bastard.Instead some judge thinks yeah he probably did it and he is now a rapist and out to the tune of a lot of money. He's done. Rape is terrible - I've known too many women who have been raped and it's sickening - but this is also bad. There's no justice here. Link to comment
Pudgie Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 That. Very much that. Totally disagree with civil court being used to find someone guilty of a crime that a criminal court said they couldn't take anywhere, especially something as absolutely destroying to a person's reputation as this.If he raped someone, then a judge should have said let's roll in criminal court. Let the peers do their thing, find guilty and sentence the bastard.Instead some judge thinks yeah he probably did it and he is now a rapist and out to the tune of a lot of money. He's done. Rape is terrible - I've known too many women who have been raped and it's sickening - but this is also bad. There's no justice here. Aye, and as far as I can see Goodwillie and Robbertson are now rapists but not criminals. It just seems daft, and I know the courts and required evidence are different, that they're now both viewed as rapists without the required evidence. Rapists should be given punishment, of that there's no doubt and bringing them to justice more often is a good thing, but requiring less evidence to do so isn't a wholly positive move as far as I can see. Link to comment
Poodler Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I had an annoying ex who would constantly pull my penis out my trousers to suck it or wank it when I was blootered despite me aggressively telling her to "fuck off", " piss off" etc. She used the rule of thumb that if my penis went erect I was a consenting adult, even if I was unconscious. Woke up startled many times with her floppy milkers causing an uncomfortable draught while she rid my pishy hard on, couldn't even remember how I got to bed but yet through all the trials n tribulations of the evening past my cock still wanted to play games. Rape?? Fuck off. Good clean fun.Teeheehee If they were floppy then, God help her now Link to comment
Big Man Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 David Goodwillie was not found guilty of rape. He was just found to be responsible for a rape. Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Rape is terrible - I've known too many women who have been raped and it's sickening - but this is also bad. There's no justice here. 1 Link to comment
Redstar Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 ...its almost a confession Link to comment
tiktak Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Can speculate all we like, only three folk know the truth. If they did it they've been lucky to avoid the monkey house and if they didn't then paying the damages will hurt like fuck. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Can speculate all we like, only three folk know the truth. If they did it they've been lucky to avoid the monkey house and if they didn't then paying the damages will hurt like fuck.Only two people. She can't remember anything. 1 Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Never shag a bird with a bad memory unless your lawyer is present. Thats how it works at Westhill partys. Link to comment
Big Man Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Can speculate all we like, only three folk know the truth. If they did it they've been lucky to avoid the monkey house and if they didn't then paying the damages will hurt like fuck. One of them has forgotten I think. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Never shag a bird with a bad memory unless your lawyer is present. Thats how it works at Westhill partys.I heard you also need approval of a legal representative of the Goose community nearby. Link to comment
robbojunior Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 He's most likely going to get raped by Liverpool tonight if selected. Link to comment
reekie_dock Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Playing we fire spit roasting a dame when yer a football player and she's bleezing. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 He's most likely going to get raped by Liverpool tonight if selected.Not in the squad for tonight's game Link to comment
Redstar Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Not in the squad for tonight's gameThe verdict won't have sat well with the God fearing Adams...contract paid up and shown the door by the end of the month would be my guess. Link to comment
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