European Refs...

[BillShankly]

Different breed all together.

 

Standard of the two refs at Pittodrie so far has been poor. They seem to let a lot of play acting and feigning injury go but don't like the slightest contact.

 

Quite incredible tonight when their number 15 was treated by the trainer who was called on by the ref and was then allowed to stay on after being treated. Never seen anything like it.

[scoutman70]

Different breed all together.

 

Standard of the two refs at Pittodrie so far has been poor. They seem to let a lot of play acting and feigning injury go but don't like the slightest contact.

 

Quite incredible tonight when their number 15 was treated by the trainer who was called on by the ref and was then allowed to stay on after being treated. Never seen anything like it.

Apparently this is a new rule so the guy in front of me said. If a yellow card is shown, player doesn't have to leave the field of play

[fine-n-dandy]

Different breed all together.

 

Standard of the two refs at Pittodrie so far has been poor. They seem to let a lot of play acting and feigning injury go but don't like the slightest contact.

 

Quite incredible tonight when their number 15 was treated by the trainer who was called on by the ref and was then allowed to stay on after being treated. Never seen anything like it.

New rules are if the player is injured as the result of a foul he doesn't have to leave the field after treatment. Dinny like it as it will cause far more time wasting when teams ken they won't have to go down to ten men when they fake injuries.

Baffling one for me was when he stopped play when we were attacking when their player just dropped himself in the box for no reason.

[Bamber]

Apparently this is a new rule so the guy in front of me said. If a yellow card is shown, player doesn't have to leave the field of play

 

 

Wrong - its a red card the treated player stays on pitch

 

Law 5 - the referee

Referees have the authority to take action from when they enter the field of play for the pre-match inspection, not from the start of the game - which means players could be sent off for an offence committed while warming up. But yellow cards can only be issued from the start of the match.

 

Players injured by opponents who are then sent off do not need to leave the pitch for treatment.

 

 

<edit> I blame it in the singing section anyway - Imagine singing "Niall Mcginn makes Ronaldo look shite" to a referee from Portugal, asking for trouble .,......

[fine-n-dandy]

 

 

Wrong - its a red card the treated player stays on pitch

 

Law 5 - the referee

Referees have the authority to take action from when they enter the field of play for the pre-match inspection, not from the start of the game - which means players could be sent off for an offence committed while warming up. But yellow cards can only be issued from the start of the match.

 

Players injured by opponents who are then sent off do not need to leave the pitch for treatment.

Commentators got it wrong also then but maybe the ref actually agrees with us then in that Taylor should have see red

[Chewie37]

It's always interesting seeing refs that don't support Glasgow based teams and how they interpret the rules without any bias

[boboisared]

I thought the ref in the first home game was good, dodgy goals disallowed aside but I think two of those were the linesmans fault.

 

Last night's ref was howling though.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Last night's was an interesting blend of trying to ignore players (usually Hayes) going down under contact when they didn't need to but then completely ignoring players making, in particular, ariel challenges without looking at or for the ball which is what led to the Taylor incident. That said, against a bigot side Taylor's was a red and probably an extended ban all day.

 

I thought the linesman was outstanding. His decision to call them offside when they were 4 against 1 on the break. Outstanding sir.

[Foster14]

Nah, the referee was right with the new rules; From the IFAB Laws of the Game 2016/17

 

Injuries

 

 

• allows play to continue until the ball is out of play if a player is only slightly

 

injured

• stops play if a player is seriously injured and ensures that the player is

removed from the field of play. An injured player may not be treated on the

field of play and may only re-enter after play has restarted; if the ball is in

play, re-entry must be from the touchline but if the ball is out of play, it may

be from any boundary line. Exceptions to the requirement to leave the field

of play are only when:

 

••a goalkeeper is injured

••a goalkeeper and an outfield player have collided and need attention

••players from the same team have collided and need attention

••a severe injury has occurred

•• a player is injured as the result of a physical offence for which

the opponent is cautioned or sent off (e.g. reckless or serious foul

challenge), if the assessment/treatment is completed quickly

[Foster14]

Though think he shouldn't have stopped the play for the other guy, though the referee will have no idea how seriously he was injured (or even how he was injured).

[fine-n-dandy]

 

 

Wrong - its a red card the treated player stays on pitch

 

Law 5 - the referee

Referees have the authority to take action from when they enter the field of play for the pre-match inspection, not from the start of the game - which means players could be sent off for an offence committed while warming up. But yellow cards can only be issued from the start of the match.

 

Players injured by opponents who are then sent off do not need to leave the pitch for treatment.

 

 

<edit> I blame it in the singing section anyway - Imagine singing "Niall Mcginn makes Ronaldo look shite" to a referee from Portugal, asking for trouble .,......

 

Cautioned or sent off

Nah, the referee was right with the new rules; From the IFAB Laws of the Game 2016/17

 

Injuries

 

 

• allows play to continue until the ball is out of play if a player is only slightly

 

injured

• stops play if a player is seriously injured and ensures that the player is

removed from the field of play. An injured player may not be treated on the

field of play and may only re-enter after play has restarted; if the ball is in

play, re-entry must be from the touchline but if the ball is out of play, it may

be from any boundary line. Exceptions to the requirement to leave the field

of play are only when:

 

••a goalkeeper is injured

••a goalkeeper and an outfield player have collided and need attention

••players from the same team have collided and need attention

••a severe injury has occurred

•• a player is injured as the result of a physical offence for which

the opponent is cautioned or sent off (e.g. reckless or serious foul

challenge), if the assessment/treatment is completed quickly

[Chewie37]

That's weird though? If someone does a Ronaldo/Pepe and rolls around in agony so the tackling player gets booked, they don't have to go off? Then magically are okay again?

[fine-n-dandy]

That's weird though? If someone does a Ronaldo/Pepe and rolls around in agony so the tackling player gets booked, they don't have to go off? Then magically are okay again?

Yeah & if a team still want to waste time they can just run into one of their on players & go down injured & nae have to leave the field.

The new rule is going to be a fkn farce. Especially for Scottish refs.

[Chewie37]

Don't know if the rugby style, keep playing and treat injured players without any stoppage would work. It just seems to be cheating and play acting is promoted/encouraged by stupid rule changes in football.

 

Rolling subs could be a method of stamping it out, it works in other sports

[donsdaft]

The injured player having to go off was always stupid (that's a new rule to me)

 

Your star player gets scythed down at the edge of the box and then is not allowed to take the free kick.

 

Cheats will always find a way to cheat, it's up to referee's to stop them.

 

I'm not holding my breath mind.

 

They are not helped however by commentators and pundits spikkin shite like "there was contact" and "he was entitled to go down"

 

People watch these programs and take that kind of bollocks as gospel.

[SheepieBaaBaa]

Yeah & if a team still want to waste time they can just run into one of their on players & go down injured & nae have to leave the field.

The new rule is going to be a fkn farce. Especially for Scottish refs.

 

No they can't....in that situation they would have to leave the field because the player who "injured" them wouldn't be cautioned or sent off.

[SheepieBaaBaa]

Think of it another way. We are 0:0 away at Celtic in the last game of the season, needing a point to secure league victory.

 

Hayes gets chopped down shamelessly by Brown in the 1st minute of injury time.

 

Old Rule: We have to play on with 10 men while he is treated and Celtic run up the field and score against our 10 men.

 

Is that fairer? or is it better

 

New rule: we get to treat him on the field and then continue.

 

New rule is fairer/better/any similar adjective.

 

There's scope to use it to cheat, but on balance, the new ruling is better. There will always be some way to cheat.

[Chewie37]

Think of it another way. We are 0:0 away at Celtic in the last game of the season, needing a point to secure league victory.

 

Hayes gets chopped down shamelessly by Brown in the 1st minute of injury time.

 

Old Rule: We have to play on with 10 men while he is treated and Celtic run up the field and score against our 10 men.

 

Is that fairer? or is it better

 

New rule: we get to treat him on the field and then continue.

 

New rule is fairer/better/any similar adjective.

 

There's scope to use it to cheat, but on balance, the new ruling is better. There will always be some way to cheat.

Not really, Brown wouldn't be booked, so we'd still be down to ten

[Rabiusmaximus]

Think of it another way. We are 0:0 away at Celtic in the last game of the season, needing a point to secure league victory.

 

Hayes gets chopped down shamelessly by Brown in the 1st minute of injury time.

 

Old Rule: We have to play on with 10 men while he is treated and Celtic run up the field and score against our 10 men.

 

Is that fairer? or is it better

 

New rule: we get to treat him on the field and then continue.

 

New rule is fairer/better/any similar adjective.

 

There's scope to use it to cheat, but on balance, the new ruling is better. There will always be some way to cheat.

This scenario would never happen, as brown would chop down Hayes, ref would play on, Celtic would score, then Hayes would get booked for diving.

[G31DON]

 

No they can't....in that situation they would have to leave the field because the player who "injured" them wouldn't be cautioned or sent off.

You haven't read all the exceptions. If two players from same team injure each other they get to stay on the pitch. An example might be both going for a defensive header and hurting each other.

[SheepieBaaBaa]

You haven't read all the exceptions. If two players from same team injure each other they get to stay on the pitch. An example might be both going for a defensive header and hurting each other.

 

I admit, that is pretty shitty and stupid then and revise my earlier comment. I will leave it in place though just to show what a gent I am and how I can admit when I'm wrong.

[Chewie37]

Don't feel bad Sheepie, it's open to referee interpretation anyway, which in Scotland we all know what that means