fine-n-dandy Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 when will we get it, or will we get? Money seems to be the main gripe from the SPFL for getting it (though most of us know it's fear of reducing corruption ) but it will have to be introduced eventually. Problem is though with all the shite from the stands this season getting a bit more press. Mostly from the arse cheeks as per usual, it has to be said.We will likely end up spending any cash on extra cameras for the stands rather than the pitch. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Said it often enough. Don’t understand why we won’t trial it for free using existing live coverage first. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Rumour is the erse cheeks don't want VAR so we won't get it. There's probably more pressing things for Scottish clubs to spend money on though. Link to comment
The Brocher Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Both the cheeks have opposed video /tv evidence since the 1970s because they think they will be adversely affected. Too bloody right they would Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Rumour is the erse cheeks don't want VAR so we won't get it. There's probably more pressing things for Scottish clubs to spend money on though.Exactly so let’s call their bluff by arguing over something that costs nothing and highlights the hypocrisy of current live game coverage. We’ve nothing to lose in that debate! Link to comment
1903Fitba Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Would have put a stop to the Hun hysteria regarding the Durrant incident. Blatant dive. Yellow for simulation. 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 Said it often enough. Don’t understand why we won’t trial it for free using existing live coverage first.Big screens up. Replay the fkd up calls by refs to humiliate them during rest of game. I am aware they are not allowed to do this during games for fear of trouble for poor calls but this only highlights the need for VAR really. The fact they fear showing a replay of potentially mistaken decision by a ref to the crowd at the game. If the ref isn't sure, he blows whistle then asks for VAR. easy peasy. Far better reliability rate than JUST a ref & fourth official, or linesman. Clearly the arse cheeks would be against such a dramatic shift in reliability from officials. Link to comment
Fridge Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Agreed with the bias and it would fuck the Weegie fucks more than is but it has been a total farce so far. Bad enough watching on tv let alone in the stadium when you don’t have a fucking clue what the ref is checking whether or not a goal that you just fell down the stairs celebrating might be chalked off. Should have someone watching on VAR and if there is a clear blatant fuck up from the ref immediately tell him in his ear. If there is any debate just fucking play on with how the ref calledIt. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 It hasn't been a farce. There has been some short delays but hardly farcical.Positives have far outshone the negatives on VAR so far. Link to comment
TheRock Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Said it often enough. Don’t understand why we won’t trial it for free using existing live coverage first.What does this actually mean? Like a 5th official just watching the TV feed and radio'ing the match referee if he sees anything that's been missed? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 So instead of employing 4 useless cunts we'll just make it 5 then. VAR is just another waste of time as there's no real additional accountability Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Me too MT. Zero cost. See what works - obvious ball over line, obvious goals being stopped, blatant fouls leading to injury (since the games stopped anyway). Use what we have to get as many decisions right as possible first. Then decide if we want to spend squillions broadening it out. Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 So instead of employing 4 useless cunts we'll just make it 5 then.VAR is just another waste of time as there's no real additional accountabilityWhat? You don't think losing a game and potentially cups and leagues because the rules have actually been enforced is being held accountable? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 What? You don't think losing a game and potentially cups and leagues because the rules have actually been enforced is being held accountable?In theory yes. But in practice it will just be another compliance officer debacle. The person watching the footage decides which incidents to alert to the referee. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 The compliance officer bs/3 man anonymous panel was a farce from the very start. As soon as they introduce the word ANONYMOUS in there you know it is simply another form of bias/corruption/control. VAR is a hard one for them to cheat with. Yes there is still some cases where there is room for error/debate (as the WC proved) but as a whole there is no hiding during a game for blatant mistakes that are easily picked up on in video replay, rather than as it is now where we are given the old 'swings & roundabouts' shite after the game. 2 Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Wasn’t there a World Cup match where the ref made a blatant mistake and the stadium producer played it back on the big screen and the ref refused to change his mind? Might’ve been in Korea or something, but I’m sure FIFA changed the rules on playback on big screens after that VAR isn’t going to cost a fortune as they try to make out, you honestly telling me that in this day and age with technology available two or three cameras couldn’t be set up to cover an area for debatable decisions? 1 Link to comment
boboisared Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Wasn’t there a World Cup match where the ref made a blatant mistake and the stadium producer played it back on the big screen and the ref refused to change his mind? Might’ve been in Korea or something, but I’m sure FIFA changed the rules on playback on big screens after that VAR isn’t going to cost a fortune as they try to make out, you honestly telling me that in this day and age with technology available two or three cameras couldn’t be set up to cover an area for debatable decisions?Vaguely remember something like this with Spain. Spanish players surrounding the ref pointing up to the giant screen. Link to comment
TheRock Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Aye, I remember that but VAR wasn't being used. The referee was left in the difficult position of knowing he got the decision wrong but didn't feel he could change it based on video evidence. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 VAR will make little difference at the top end of Scottish foorball, the games a bogey! Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 No. The game is exactly as they want it (once they get two competitive clubs again). Now run along like a good little diddy club fan, pay yer dues and appreciate what you’re watching. Preferably without singing or the use of banners. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 No. The game is exactly as they want it (once they get two competitive clubs again). Now run along like a good little diddy club fan, pay yer dues and appreciate what you’re watching. Preferably without singing or the use of banners. So the games a bogey then..... like I said. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Christ no. Rude health. Spectator numbers are up (because we’re all too stupid to know it’s because the Tim’s are actually turning up again and because the Kilmarnocks of this world are giving them multiple stands) viewing numbers are up - see above plus old firm wankey chat blah blah - and Stephen Gerard’s here ergo it must be good for all of us. Bonuses all round Mr Doncaster. Link to comment
AllyDon Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 In theory yes. But in practice it will just be another compliance officer debacle. The person watching the footage decides which incidents to alert to the referee. What could possibly go wrong? i'm not against VAR, but I do tend to agree with aberdeen1970. Depends who is operating the VAR what is brought to the referees attention and if referees are currently showing deliberate bias to the arse cheeks then getting them to re-look at an incident isn't likely to make them change their mind. Issue still remains with VAR that there appears to be no accountability for incorrect decisions made by referees and until that changes VAR will just remain an expensive waiste of time. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Christ no. Rude health. Spectator numbers are up (because we’re all too stupid to know it’s because the Tim’s are actually turning up again and because the Kilmarnocks of this world are giving them multiple stands) viewing numbers are up - see above plus old firm wankey chat blah blah - and Stephen Gerard’s here ergo it must be good for all of us. Bonuses all round Mr Doncaster. So the games a bogey..... like I said. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Mike (or mic even) up the ref for all to hear. Like rugby 'ball'. Be a great laugh. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Mike (or mic even) up the ref for all to hear. Like rugby 'ball'. Be a great laugh.Agreed. No hiding place for referees then. Link to comment
TheRock Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Players would be told to stop swearing, and I guess the only way to stop it would be to start dishing out cards. Would soon stop it. But I dunno, we don't want to end up like rugby and calling the referee 'sir' and what not. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Players would be told to stop swearing, and I guess the only way to stop it would be to start dishing out cards. Would soon stop it. But I dunno, we don't want to end up like rugby and calling the referee 'sir' and what not.If they earn it they can be called sir with respect If they don't they can easily be called sir with great contempt I agree though. All sir cuntos Link to comment
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