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One rule for football, another rule for everything else. Passport number, flight details, accommodation etc needing in order to collect European away tickets. Why is all of that information relevant if I pitch up at the stadium with my ID?

Ridiculous suggestion this bus nonsense is anyway. The Police already have powers they can enforce. Pubs don't have to serve drunk people. Use the laws that already exist.

There's probably a human rights issue here to be fair. But that's doesn't matter because it's football.

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6 hours ago, torry_battery_ram said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66722982

What does everyone think about this controversial plan?

 

 

I think it's a load of pish.

6 hours ago, Tord31 said:

Supporters Buses are almost dead anyway. Final boot in the balls to kill them off... if this or even a watered down version comes to fruition

So is this.

Our Supporters club is still thriving and will often have enough interest for 2 buses for certain games.

Agree the potential new rules could maybe kill it though.

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38 minutes ago, King Street Loon said:

I think it's a load of pish.

So is this.

Our Supporters club is still thriving and will often have enough interest for 2 buses for certain games.

Agree the potential new rules could maybe kill it though.

Fantastic that your supporters club is still doing well but many not running anymore in comparison to bygone years.

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12 hours ago, Tord31 said:

Supporters Buses are almost dead anyway. Final boot in the balls to kill them off... if this or even a watered down version comes to fruition

 

5 hours ago, Tord31 said:

Fantastic that your supporters club is still doing well but many not running anymore in comparison to bygone years.

That's because they're so expensive now that clubs can no longer be okay with being 3/4 full, they need to fill it every game to pay their costs.

And that's not easy when your supporters club is only getting 15 tickets for Hearts away.

We're slowly doing away with the away day in Scotland. Soon it'll be home support only all over the country.

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5 hours ago, Dunty said:

 

That's because they're so expensive now that clubs can no longer be okay with being 3/4 full, they need to fill it every game to pay their costs.

And that's not easy when your supporters club is only getting 15 tickets for Hearts away.

We're slowly doing away with the away day in Scotland. Soon it'll be home support only all over the country.

im more speaking about home games than away games.

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Ridiculous and totally unfair to treat all football fans like they are hooligans out to cause bother.

In no other situation are ordinary people assumed guilty and their freedoms restricted like that.

I agree that it’s not unlike some pish the SNP would try to introduce but bearing in mind the vitriol the SNP would get on here from the Unionists, you can’t have both ways, so yeah, Fuck the Tories.

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It's been binned (for now)

 

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This included any pub stops only being allowed at premises which serve a "substantial meal" with alcohol bought.
 

The move was widely criticised and the senior commissioner has now halted work on the proposed guidelines.
 

In a statement, Richard Turfitt, the Senior Traffic Commissioner for Great Britain, which regulates bus travel across Britain, said he had "listened to the strength of feeling expressed".
 

He added: "It is clear to me that there is further work required to understand the full impact of the introduction of any proposed guidance in Scotland".
 

Mr Turfitt said he had asked his officials to cease a public consultation exercise on the guidelines while his organisation takes stock.
 

The commissioner had previously argued the changes were needed due to concerns that incidents of football-related disorder "do still occur and may be increasing".
 

But Scotland's football authorities argued the move would serve to "demonise football fans", while first minister Humza Yousaf said the plan was "ludicrous".
 

A joint statement issued on behalf of the Scottish FA, Scottish Professional Football League, and Scottish Women's Premier League welcomed the change of heart.
 

It said: "We are pleased that the Senior Traffic Commissioner for Great Britain has withdrawn the proposed consultation and that common sense has prevailed.
 

"We are also grateful to clubs, fans and politicians across the country for their unanimous support in opposing and ultimately preventing these unreasonable and unworkable guidelines from being implemented."

Among the most controversial voluntary guidelines was the suggestion that stops at pubs on the way to and from matches would be agreed in advance and only allowed in premises where alcohol can bought "ancillary to a substantial meal".
 

In addition, buses would have to arrive no earlier than two hours before, and not later than one hour before, the start of the game, and then leave within 30 minutes of the finish.
 

The same voluntary guidelines are already in place in England and Wales and the Commissioner had argued they have worked well there, adding that it has "seldom been necessary" to take any action against coach operators.
 

Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross said: "This is the right outcome and a victory for football fans across Scotland who had united against these ludicrous proposals.
 

"It is only right that the traffic commissioner has seen sense and withdrawn the consultation.

"The proposals were insulting and completely disproportionate and have ended up on the scrapheap where they belong."

 

 

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