minijc Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 9 minutes ago, pittodriepie83 said: It’s the story I got via someone who was told directly from Wilder that he was taking the job & taking him in as a coach. Fair enough but I have my doubts, Wilder would have been the manager had a glaiket cunt been better at his job. Link to comment
pittodriepie83 Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, minijc said: Fair enough but I have my doubts, Wilder would have been the manager had a glaiket cunt been better at his job. I was surprised too but the story I got was he was ready to sign, Cormack then began dictating that he had to have x amount of youth players in the squad/starting each week as part of the “Aberdeen model”. Wilder said he’d pick a team to win & if it included youth then great, but wasn’t going to pick them for the sake of it. Wilder then felt DC would be sticking his nose in to team selection, and next minute the deal was off. Not sure if it was called off by our side or Wilder’s side. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 Just now, pittodriepie83 said: I was surprised too but the story I got was he was ready to sign, Cormack then began dictating that he had to have x amount of youth players in the squad/starting each week as part of the “Aberdeen model”. Wilder said he’d pick a team to win & if it included youth then great, but wasn’t going to pick them for the sake of it. Wilder then felt DC would be sticking his nose in to team selection, and next minute the deal was off. Not sure if it was called off by our side or Wilder’s side. I think this story is dubious after Glass was previously allowed to pick a team without anyone from our youth system breaking a long standing tradition. If a rookie like Glass was allowed to do it I doubt Cormack would have subsequently insisted that an experienced manager wasn't. Link to comment
pittodriepie83 Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 5 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I think this story is dubious after Glass was previously allowed to pick a team without anyone from our youth system breaking a long standing tradition. If a rookie like Glass was allowed to do it I doubt Cormack would have subsequently insisted that an experienced manager wasn't. I agree it seems strange but only passing on what Wilder himself said. Whether he’s embellished the story, who knows. But nothing would surprise me with Cormack, Glass was getting the job as soon as Cormack took over anyway so probably wasn’t an in depth interview to discuss that stuff. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 4 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Unlikely to be any one of any substance. 1) Dave Cormack’s track record suggests he doesn’t want an experienced, “strong” minded manager who will question things. 2) No-one with credibility will want to report to a DoF such as Steven Gunn 😆 But I do agree with the point that was made. Instead of spunking £750k on the likes of Gueye & Morris, try & invest in a proven manager, as hard as that might be. I’d rather buy out a successful manager from a contract than spend £500k on a player. I’ll give the club the time to sort this out and see what happens come April/May, but the last 3 appointments have been horrendous & don’t fill you with confidence. This appointment gives the Club time to complete its planned detailed review of the football operation which began at the end of last year and will inform and support the process of selecting and appointing a new management team ahead of season 2024/25. Regarding the review, Cormack said: “Ambitious clubs regularly invest in independent advice to support internal coaching, data analysis, recruitment, and medical teams with the goal of improving performance through continuous learning and development. “The highly experienced team of independent advisors, who do this work with some of the best clubs across the globe, will make recommendations to allow us to understand what we can improve upon in terms of best practice going forward. “The review will include benchmarking the Club against similar teams that currently outperform us in Europe. “With this work well underway, and due to be completed by early April, we are aiming to have a new management team confirmed by the end of the season.” The above is what Cormack said at the Warno unveiling, regarding the review. If he doesn’t follow through on all elements, not just the new manager but also the DoF, then surely, he needs to be held to account by the supporters and shareholders? Fucked if I’m renewing my season ticket if he appoints more Gunner and Glass types. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 10 minutes ago, pittodriepie83 said: I agree it seems strange but only passing on what Wilder himself said. Whether he’s embellished the story, who knows. But nothing would surprise me with Cormack, Glass was getting the job as soon as Cormack took over anyway so probably wasn’t an in depth interview to discuss that stuff. You're not passing on what Wilder said. You're passing on what someone told you Wilder said. In addition to this Robson must have had a few starting line ups without club developed players too. His entire run last season was based on a team that didn't come through our youth system. Link to comment
pittodriepie83 Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 12 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: You're not passing on what Wilder said. You're passing on what someone told you Wilder said. In addition to this Robson must have had a few starting line ups without club developed players too. His entire run last season was based on a team that didn't come through our youth system. You’re right. I’m passing on what someone very close to Wilder said. Someone who wouldn’t have any reason to make it up. Like I say, whether it’s been embellished or not, who knows. I’m not particularly arsed who believes what, just passing some info on. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 23 hours ago, starryfish said: Realistically who will we attract? We'll attract the quality of manager we're willing to pay for. Cormack has paid peanuts up until Warnock and has had numpties in charge. Just now he's paying more and got a much better manager in in Warnock. Fairly simple. Most managers are mercenaries the same way the players are. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 If Cormack and his band of merry men don’t get the management team right this time just give up supporting Aberdeen football club full stop. Save your hard earned cash, until Cormack and his yes men see the light. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 22 hours ago, sooth_stander said: This appointment gives the Club time to complete its planned detailed review of the football operation which began at the end of last year and will inform and support the process of selecting and appointing a new management team ahead of season 2024/25. Regarding the review, Cormack said: “Ambitious clubs regularly invest in independent advice to support internal coaching, data analysis, recruitment, and medical teams with the goal of improving performance through continuous learning and development. “The highly experienced team of independent advisors, who do this work with some of the best clubs across the globe, will make recommendations to allow us to understand what we can improve upon in terms of best practice going forward. “The review will include benchmarking the Club against similar teams that currently outperform us in Europe. “With this work well underway, and due to be completed by early April, we are aiming to have a new management team confirmed by the end of the season.” The above is what Cormack said at the Warno unveiling, regarding the review. If he doesn’t follow through on all elements, not just the new manager but also the DoF, then surely, he needs to be held to account by the supporters and shareholders? Fucked if I’m renewing my season ticket if he appoints more Gunner and Glass types. Somebody need to find out who is actually doing the review. Knowing us it'll be "Cormack & Gunn Sports Consultancy". Charlatan. Get him in the bin. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 22 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: Somebody need to find out who is actually doing the review. Knowing us it'll be "Cormack & Gunn Sports Consultancy". Charlatan. Get him in the bin. The thing about this review is….. the BBC got hold of the story; had they not, would Cormack have made mention of it, at the Warno unveiling? I very much doubt it. The other thing, this Chris Badlan fella, is he the new de facto DoF? He’s come in as HoR but looking at his history, looks more suited to the DoF role Link to comment
Johnnyred1 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Everyone knows that we don't need a review. The result is that unless you invest a shit load of money on players whilst trying to unearth some good potential at the same time that could bring profit, you will be farting in the wind like every other team. 1 Link to comment
Hoofball Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 34 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: The thing about this review is….. the BBC got hold of the story; had they not, would Cormack have made mention of it, at the Warno unveiling? I very much doubt it. The other thing, this Chris Badlan fella, is he the new de facto DoF? He’s come in as HoR but looking at his history, looks more suited to the DoF role Badlan may well have his eye on the DoF job but wanted to get his foot in the door first and then outmuscle Gunn, which I doubt would be hard for someone with previous DoF experience Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 31 minutes ago, Hoofball said: Badlan may well have his eye on the DoF job but wanted to get his foot in the door first and then outmuscle Gunn, which I doubt would be hard for someone with previous DoF experience We don’t currently have a DoF though, that much is obvious, as all the previous Cormack appointed managers have reported directly to him, and now Burrows, so if we do create a proper and not pretendy DoF as part of this strategic review, then it will be a major redesign from the club. Link to comment
slippers Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 34 minutes ago, Hoofball said: Badlan may well have his eye on the DoF job but wanted to get his foot in the door first and then outmuscle Gunn, which I doubt would be hard for someone with previous DoF experience He’s the new head of recruitment. Nothing to do with DOF. I had heard we are looking to add someone to oversee the football operation though. 1 Link to comment
Hoofball Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 22 minutes ago, slippers said: He’s the new head of recruitment. Nothing to do with DOF. I had heard we are looking to add someone to oversee the football operation though. I’m fully aware he isn’t the DoF and is HoR. I was replying sooth_stander who thinks he may become DoF as that was his job at Blackpool 1 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Hoofball said: Badlan may well have his eye on the DoF job but wanted to get his foot in the door first and then outmuscle Gunn, which I doubt would be hard for someone with previous DoF experience As long as he’s remembered his pea shooter. Link to comment
Hoofball Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 1 minute ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: As long as he’s remembered his pea shooter. I don’t think it would require any weapons, just an aggressive look would be enough to scare Gunn Link to comment
Tord31 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 I notice the guy Kolaric (linked at the same time as Tonio Teklic as a way to pass Varazdin cash as a workaround for the big sell on clause) moved on. I wondered if we'd be back in for him since we like to have long term targets these days. Club dropped that quote after Jensen signed and clearly we chased Phillips across a couple of windows Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 3 hours ago, Tord31 said: I notice the guy Kolaric (linked at the same time as Tonio Teklic as a way to pass Varazdin cash as a workaround for the big sell on clause) moved on. I wondered if we'd be back in for him since we like to have long term targets these days. Club dropped that quote after Jensen signed and clearly we chased Phillips across a couple of windows I can see why Robson would have been chasing him for a while. Link to comment
redone Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 On 2/18/2024 at 5:12 PM, minijc said: Fair enough but I have my doubts, Wilder would have been the manager had a glaiket cunt been better at his job. Which glaiket cunt ?…and what exactly should he have done better ? Link to comment
Tommy Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 Mbappe won’t be coming. Real Madrid have beaten us for the first time. Link to comment
Arthur FN Shelby Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 2 hours ago, Tommy said: Mbappe won’t be coming. Real Madrid have beaten us for the first time. Fuck, stuck with Morris then. Link to comment
TerryMcDermott Posted February 21, 2024 Share Posted February 21, 2024 18 hours ago, Tommy said: Mbappe won’t be coming. Real Madrid have beaten us for the first time. Don’t think it’s totally official yet is it? Still a chance. 1 Link to comment
RabidGiraffe Posted February 21, 2024 Share Posted February 21, 2024 20 hours ago, Tommy said: Mbappe won’t be coming. Real Madrid have beaten us for the first time. 17 hours ago, Arthur FN Shelby said: Fuck, stuck with Morris then. Mborris, a clown on the right wing 1 Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted February 21, 2024 Share Posted February 21, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 1:05 PM, Tommy said: Mbappe won’t be coming. Real Madrid have beaten us for the first time. It will be a miracle if we manage to beat Kilmarnock twice. And we will never beat Real Madrid again. 1 Link to comment
Dad Posted February 21, 2024 Share Posted February 21, 2024 29 minutes ago, shooftahmooftah said: It will be a miracle if we manage to beat Kilmarnock twice. And we will never beat Real Madrid again. A 'miracle' if we beat Killie a couple times - shut the fuck up shooftah for the love of fuck We'll mess the cunts right up 1 2 Link to comment
Tommy Posted February 21, 2024 Share Posted February 21, 2024 40 minutes ago, shooftahmooftah said: It will be a miracle if we manage to beat Kilmarnock twice. And we will never beat Real Madrid again. We will deal with Killie and will never lose to Real Madrid. 1 Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted February 21, 2024 Share Posted February 21, 2024 3 hours ago, Tommy said: We will deal with Killie and will never lose to Real Madrid. Only on the basis that we're unlikely to play them again. 1-0. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted February 21, 2024 Share Posted February 21, 2024 5 hours ago, Dad said: A 'miracle' if we beat Killie a couple times - shut the fuck up shooftah for the love of fuck We'll mess the cunts right up Ok Showawadaddy but not with the goos loos roos in between the sticks. Link to comment
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