manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Redforever86 said: Fury would destroy Ali, taller, longer reach, heavier, modern training and diet etc etc etc. If they were fighting they'd have the same training, diet etc. I suppose it's all about opinions but there is no way on earth Fury is fighting the same standard of boxer Ali was. He looks good because the rest are shite. Ali would've murdered him. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, NEM said: Ken Norton weighing in at 205 lbs blootered Ali but 270 lbs Tyson Fury wouldn't according to manboobs Bunce ? I didn't realise the heaviest cunt won every fight. Sorry. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Look at Furys record, who he's beat, it's a joke. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Roberto said: LOL. Aye... okay. Are you honestly saying he's the best boxer ever? 2 year drugs ban and 30 odd fights against nobodies. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Roberto said: Heavyweight boxer... very much up there. Aye. You listed boxers right, and mention drugs. Might want to rethink that list if you're using that against Fury. Numpty. How? None of them have been banned for performance enhancing drugs as far as I'm aware. Happy to be proven wrong though. Link to comment
minijc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: Look at Furys record, who he's beat, it's a joke. LOL, yet you were wanking off Joshua who skittled a load of bums that didn't even throw a punch back. Link to comment
Parklife Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Who was physically the biggest heavyweight back in the day? Sonny Liston was a big bloke, was he not? How does he compare size wise to fury? Link to comment
minijc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Parklife said: Who was physically the biggest heavyweight back in the day? Sonny Liston was a big bloke, was he not? How does he compare size wise to fury? He was only 6ft1 and around 100kg Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, minijc said: LOL, yet you were wanking off Joshua who skittled a load of bums that didn't even throw a punch back. Aye and I've admitted I was wrong Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, Roberto said: Aye cause being banned means they did/didn't use them. Dafty. Lumbering those boxers in with heavyweight Fury as well. Dafty. Glad others weren't as daft and understood. So we ignore someone with a drugs ban just incase someone else maybe used them? Right then. If you say someone is the greatest of all time surely you mean pound for pound no? Even considering Fury in the conversation for greatest heavyweight of all time us insanity. 30 fights against no cunt, drugs ban, he's a fucking shambles of a "sportsman" any half competent boxer would destroy him, it's just unfortunate there's not many of them in the heavyweight division just now. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Dad said: What about Michael Tyson chebs son - could he best Ali? Like I say it's difficult to judge but I know that big, fat, drug cheating, lump could not get near either. Link to comment
minijc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 You are so full of shit Moobs, clueless on the subject. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Instead of lol put up a reasonable argument for him being the greatest heavyweight of all time? His record of who he's beat? Number of successful defences? There must be something. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Just now, minijc said: You are so full of shit Moobs, clueless on the subject. Put up a reasonable argument then. Why is he the greatest of all Time? Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Anyone claiming he's the greatest heavyweight of all time is a total mongo. Simple as that. 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Roberto said: One of them. Without a doubt. Even the greats have said so themselves. So they are mongos with me. Yey. You're good for a laugh if anything. Who's said that? What greats? Also you didn't say "one of the greats" you said the GOAT after beating Whyte and Usyk? Do me a favour. Link to comment
minijc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I like what Fury has said on the matter, he is without a doubt the best of his generation, going through other generations makes it tough but for various reasons he'd always be in the conversation. The size and weight of him with his movement makes him a nightmare for every boxer, maybe peak Mike Tyson but given what Fury has shown over 3 fights against one of the hardest hitters the sport has seen he knows how to find a way to get through the fights. As for the drugs suspension, a lot of that stunk, from both sides, it's a shame but for me I fail to see what he'd have gained from that specific drug given that there are better drugs he could have taken, ones that would've been harder to find as well in testing. Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Who was physically the biggest heavyweight back in the day? Sonny Liston was a big bloke, was he not? How does he compare size wise to fury? Foreman was considered a monster at the time, and even he was 5 inches shorter than Fury. Link to comment
Redmist1903 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: So we ignore someone with a drugs ban just incase someone else maybe used them? Right then. If you say someone is the greatest of all time surely you mean pound for pound no? Even considering Fury in the conversation for greatest heavyweight of all time us insanity. 30 fights against no cunt, drugs ban, he's a fucking shambles of a "sportsman" any half competent boxer would destroy him, it's just unfortunate there's not many of them in the heavyweight division just now. Come on now min, thats just crazy talk Link to comment
minijc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Roberto said: He beat 2 of the top 3 hardest hitters. One of them 3 times... However the Klitchsko one always gets over looked. Does my head in. When Joshua beat him though, it counted but not when Fury did... in the man's own backyard unbeaten for years. Yeah, he schooled Vlad and broke him mentally, lost my mind when he was showboating as I felt there was no way he was getting the decision but thankfully he did. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Roberto said: Damn straight. I was on a high after the win. You pulled me up for it, and I answered 'one of the best, yes' or words to that effect. Now we are here. And rightfully people are pulling you up for your shit. I'm happy to say he's the best current heavyweight but there is no way he's the GOAT. Total pish. Compare who he's beaten then look at Ali's record. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, minijc said: I like what Fury has said on the matter, he is without a doubt the best of his generation, going through other generations makes it tough but for various reasons he'd always be in the conversation. The size and weight of him with his movement makes him a nightmare for every boxer, maybe peak Mike Tyson but given what Fury has shown over 3 fights against one of the hardest hitters the sport has seen he knows how to find a way to get through the fights. As for the drugs suspension, a lot of that stunk, from both sides, it's a shame but for me I fail to see what he'd have gained from that specific drug given that there are better drugs he could have taken, ones that would've been harder to find as well in testing. That ranks as one of the stupidest things I've ever read. You believe his "eating whole wild boar" story??? Link to comment
minijc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: That ranks as one of the stupidest things I've ever read. You believe his "eating whole wild boar" story??? No I don't, I just know a fair bit about which drugs do what, it was a body building drug ffs, completely detrimental to what a boxer like him would need. Now could someone in his team slip him something without him knowing, yip, could he have taken it and been fully aware what he was taking yes but again there are better drugs out there that would give him better benefits and less chance of getting popped. There are also other boxers out there that have magically tested clean despite their bodies showing that they are clearly on something too, the old HGH belly on full show with several heavyweights. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 He's no the brightest Mini. He was guilty as fuck. Valid point that there is a fair chance the majority of them are at it though. Link to comment
minijc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: He's no the brightest Mini. He was guilty as fuck. Valid point that there is a fair chance the majority of them are at it though. He's not the brightest, then yeah there's a good chance someone has slipped him something without him knowing. Go watch some of the videos from the run up to the Vlad fight, how cautious he and his team were with what they ate and drank. For me, I'm dubious due to the drug and the lack of benefits for boxer, compare it to the Mexican beef boy who was found with a drug in him that's ideal for what he specifically needed. Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, minijc said: Yeah, he schooled Vlad and broke him mentally, lost my mind when he was showboating as I felt there was no way he was getting the decision but thankfully he did. This and being streets ahead of Wilder who is probably under rated in the UK is what seals it for me. I’d never say any boxer is the best ever, simply can’t compare over generations and the ages when they face different fighters. But Fury would be in the discussion. Ali’s record isn’t even that great, if it wasn’t for his showmanship and being ahead of his time in that regard he wouldn’t be held in such mental esteem. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: This and being streets ahead of Wilder who is probably under rated in the UK is what seals it for me. I’d never say any boxer is the best ever, simply can’t compare over generations and the ages when they face different fighters. But Fury would be in the discussion. Ali’s record isn’t even that great, if it wasn’t for his showmanship and being ahead of his time in that regard he wouldn’t be held in such mental esteem. Disregard. Picked you up wrong. Link to comment
NEM Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, manboobs109 said: Look at Furys record, who he's beat, it's a joke. He beat a world champion who was unbeaten for ten years in his own backyard and has just smoked the hardest punching heavyweight in history for the third time you maniac ? Link to comment
NEM Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, manboobs109 said: I didn't realise the heaviest cunt won every fight. Sorry. You never heard the phrase a good big un beats a good little un? It’s basic common sense min ? Link to comment
NEM Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Redforever86 said: This and being streets ahead of Wilder who is probably under rated in the UK is what seals it for me. I’d never say any boxer is the best ever, simply can’t compare over generations and the ages when they face different fighters. But Fury would be in the discussion. Ali’s record isn’t even that great, if it wasn’t for his showmanship and being ahead of his time in that regard he wouldn’t be held in such mental esteem. Ali vastly over rated cause of his big gob. Great fighter but nowhere near “the greatest” Looks like moobs bought the hype though Link to comment
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