Tord31 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, NEM said: I think we only hold the cards if we offer him a better deal than the one he’s on currently. Not sure if there’s a time limit on doing that either Aye it does need to be a certain amount of time before the end of the contract plus an increase Link to comment
Tord31 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye, maybe. Unless he accepts the offer and then it costs us if we've signed up a guy who has a beef and we've no intention of investing playing time in. He's local and an Aberdeen fan (ha.. where have we heard that) so surely no beef when we change our manager next week Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, Tord31 said: He's local and an Aberdeen fan (ha.. where have we heard that) so surely no beef when we change our manager next week What if the new manager doesn't fancy him? I also think most on here would want us to have better strikers than Bruce at the moment. So unless he's happy to be a squad player and fight for his place then that's fine. My gut feel is that he wants to be starting now and his best chance of that is via a fresh start imo. Link to comment
minijc Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 12:18 PM, Millertime said: Well that's confirmed the attitude problem then Whether you like the manager or feel wanted should be irrelevant if you want to be the best you can be At the end of your career you want to look back and admire your stats So even if you hate the manager, surely you go out of your way to probably try even harder so that you catch someone else's eye? It's an utter loser mentality I definitely play better at 7s or 5s when I'm raging, it should be a motivator and if it isn't, you aren't going to do anything with your career What's the point when the manager never changes his mind once he's made it up? Anderson was against it due to the type of striker he is and our manager insisting on only going with a target man up top for the majority of games. There are other young players at the club begging for games and they are doing all they can to get in the team but the manager doesn't give them a chance. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: What if the new manager doesn't fancy him? I also think most on here would want us to have better strikers than Bruce at the moment. So unless he's happy to be a squad player and fight for his place then that's fine. My gut feel is that he wants to be starting now and his best chance of that is via a fresh start imo. We need four strikers to sign before September. It wouldn't put me up or down if Anderson is one. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, minijc said: What's the point when the manager never changes his mind once he's made it up? Anderson was against it due to the type of striker he is and our manager insisting on only going with a target man up top for the majority of games. There are other young players at the club begging for games and they are doing all they can to get in the team but the manager doesn't give them a chance. I agree that Anderson has a case regarding whether he should have had more game time. But do you think he's good enough to be first choice at Aberdeen and you'd be happy with him as a first choice next season? We'd be wanting better strikers surely? In that scenario he's still a squad player fighting for a place in the team. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Tord31 said: We need four strikers to sign before September. It wouldn't put me up or down if Anderson is one. I think we are saying the same thing. I'm fine with him being one of the strikers in the squad but I'd be expecting a much better quality of striker as my first choices. Link to comment
minijc Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I agree that Anderson has a case regarding whether he should have had more game time. But do you think he's good enough to be first choice at Aberdeen and you'd be happy with him as a first choice next season? We'd be wanting better strikers surely? In that scenario he's still a squad player fighting for a place in the team. If we played to his strengths (like Hamilton are) I think he could do a job for us, he has good instinct and movement in the box, something we've lacked for a while, a good run in the team in a system that works for the team and him could really see him do good things. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I think we are saying the same thing. I'm fine with him being one of the strikers in the squad but I'd be expecting a much better quality of striker as my first choices. Aye. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Offering Anderson a one year extension on his current terms would be a sensible thing to do I think. He would be a squad player at least initially, but it would let any new manager assess him close up. With a change of system, he might even prove to be a good option moving forward. However the loon might fancy a new challenge elsewhere (and might think he can get a better contract). In that case, we are entitled to a development fee. I suspect this is the most likely outcome Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, minijc said: If we played to his strengths (like Hamilton are) I think he could do a job for us, he has good instinct and movement in the box, something we've lacked for a while, a good run in the team in a system that works for the team and him could really see him do good things. So you'd be happy if Anderson was a first choice next season? I wouldn't. We need to be getting much better than that if we want to be achieving anything. Link to comment
minijc Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: So you'd be happy if Anderson was a first choice next season? I wouldn't. We need to be getting much better than that if we want to be achieving anything. If he continues the form he's in, has a good pre season then why not? We'll be signing at least 2 new strikers, most likely 3, he'd be a good cheap option to have and if he'd in form and worthy of a start I'd be happy. 3 minutes ago, Millertime said: Come on He has played loads of youngsters this season There are others that have done all they can at their level and not been given a sniff, in areas where we've struggled this year. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: So you'd be happy if Anderson was a first choice next season? I wouldn't. We need to be getting much better than that if we want to be achieving anything. Completely agree with that. Good luck to the lad but I don’t think he’s good enough. I doubt he’ll sign a contract with us even if/when we offer one (think we have to offer one to get any “training compensation”?). If Accies stay up, that would be the logical move for him so he can still play regular football at the top level. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Millertime said: You can't just say that without saying who you're talking about He has given youth plenty chances this season At what point does a player not be termed a “youth”. Dean Campbell & Connor McLennan have been in & around the first team for years now. They’re the only two really he’s played or given “plenty chances”? Link to comment
Sheepo Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Completely agree with that. Good luck to the lad but I don’t think he’s good enough. I doubt he’ll sign a contract with us even if/when we offer one (think we have to offer one to get any “training compensation”?). If Accies stay up, that would be the logical move for him so he can still play regular football at the top level. Its too late to get any cash for him, I reckon he will end up at Dundee United or St Johnstone next season if he keeps scoring Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 He's going to have no choice but to play more of them at this rate. First team players dropping like flies. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Millertime said: Campbell is 19, so definitely a youth Ngenwya was given a chance and absolutely shat it 45 minutes was it? Less? Hardly constitutes “plenty chances” although I agree at Ross County he looked like a bunny in the headlights but to be fair the experienced ones alongside him were equally as bad. I think this must be about the longest run of starts Dean Campbell has had. I just don’t think the reserves/development team have enough good players. Calvin Ramsay (a right back/right wing back) apparently is good & if he wasn’t injured he might’ve featured. Maybe next season Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: 45 minutes was it? Less? Hardly constitutes “plenty chances” although I agree at Ross County he looked like a bunny in the headlights but to be fair the experienced ones alongside him were equally as bad. I think this must be about the longest run of starts Dean Campbell has had. I just don’t think the reserves/development team have enough good players. Calvin Ramsay (a right back/right wing back) apparently is good & if he wasn’t injured he might’ve featured. Maybe next season You can start to see the difference regular games is having for Campbell. He's getting forward a lot more now and he's starting to take more responsibility. Link to comment
NEM Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: 45 minutes was it? Less? Hardly constitutes “plenty chances” although I agree at Ross County he looked like a bunny in the headlights but to be fair the experienced ones alongside him were equally as bad. I think this must be about the longest run of starts Dean Campbell has had. I just don’t think the reserves/development team have enough good players. Calvin Ramsay (a right back/right wing back) apparently is good & if he wasn’t injured he might’ve featured. Maybe next season I see a slight flaw in your plan there ? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Millertime said: Do you genuinely think so? Yeah I genuinely do. I'd still like him to be more confident and creative in his play but I think he's starting to look more settled the last couple of games. 1 Link to comment
frankie_mac's_4 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: 45 minutes was it? Less? Hardly constitutes “plenty chances” although I agree at Ross County he looked like a bunny in the headlights but to be fair the experienced ones alongside him were equally as bad. Bag of nerves I thought. Understandable on the night but aye, he wasn't ready. I think he got hung out to dry that night by the manager and by senior players. Early days for him, he's highly thought of apparently 12 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: You can start to see the difference regular games is having for Campbell. He's getting forward a lot more now and he's starting to take more responsibility. Every young player needs the minutes against experienced professionals to learn the game at that level. It's a massive step up from youth development to competing with experienced professionals. If he wasn't getting a run of games this season he needed to go out on loan Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Can Anderson be recalled? Link to comment
TheRock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 He can't play for us again until July 1st Link to comment
Granite95 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 So it's Michael Ruth's turn to sit on the bench and maybe get 5 mins at the end of games Link to comment
Tord31 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Granite95 said: So it's Michael Ruth's turn to sit on the bench and maybe get 5 mins at the end of games Forgot about him. Yes, he might get to sit on the bench for the next 3 games. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, Granite95 said: So it's Michael Ruth's turn to sit on the bench and maybe get 5 mins at the end of games He wasn’t even getting a game at Arbroath. Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/donsnews/out-on-loan-at-hamilton-but-striker-bruce-anderson-has-not-given-up-on-his-dream-of-leading-aberdeens-attack-next-season-and-beyond1/ Anderson talking up Mcinnes and his desire to come back. Almost like those suggesting Mcinnes has "mismanaged him" are talking pish. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 An absolutely nothing story which as been dived on by mongs. Its highly unlikely Anderson will play another game under McInnes. Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said: An absolutely nothing story which as been dived on by mongs. Its highly unlikely Anderson will play another game under McInnes. Are these the same "mongs" who decided Anderson has scored 2 at Hamilton because Mcinnes mismanaged him and claimed Anderson was having a "dig" claiming he "felt wanted" for the first time at Hamilton? Or the same people who claimed Cosgrove training comment was the biggest revelation and dig in the world? I shared this to point out folk are very selective in which comments in the press they latch on to. Link to comment
Granite95 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: He wasn’t even getting a game at Arbroath. Played 16 out of the 21 games from what I can see from wiki and arbroath's fixtures but aye not getting a game..... Link to comment
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