Don Fonte Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Like disappearing in the 2nd-half yesterday when things got tough? Fuck him and all that's sailed in him.Amen. Everyone getting caught up in this shit he's playing well every week. Bit of pressure and he's lost. And he's a hun. And a prick. Fuck him. 2 Link to comment
dave_min Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 doesn't offer the versatilityHow versatile do you need to be on the bench? Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Shinnie if you're being realistic. With Tierney set to play as a central defender in this squad, Shinnie is likely in the squad as back up left wing back to cover Robertson so I couldn't see Jack playing out there. Looks to me like Shinnie's commitment to going away with Scotland during the summer just before his wedding has been rewarded & put him ahead of Barry Douglas who pulled out of that squad as he had a itchy toe nail which made him unavailable to play Link to comment
Poodler Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 In the Spiders Web, there is a picture of the Scotland squad with Jamie Langfield in it Always raises a chuckle from me, when in. 1 Link to comment
Henry Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Amen. Everyone getting caught up in this shit he's playing well every week. Bit of pressure and he's lost. And he's a hun. And a prick. Fuck him.Sonoftherock is just looking forward to the Scotland chapter of Ryan Jack’s autobiography when it comes out in ten years. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 It's Scotland, we don't pick players on current form......it takes ages for players to be considered out with the current favourites and by the time we pick them they've gone off the boilExtremely true. Especially with strikers Kris Boyd banging them in? Pick Steven FletcherSteven Fletcher banging them in? Pick Kenny MillerKenny Miller banging them in? Play 4-6-0Griffiths banging them in? Time to give Chris Martin from Coldplay a run 2 1 Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 How versatile do you need to be on the bench? ability to cover multiple positions offers options Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Can you not have the rest of your squad on the bench in international football now or was that just an experiment? Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 if celtic fans gave a shit about Scotland I'd enjoy Belgium playing boyata to troll them but since they don't I hope he suffers a serous injury Link to comment
OddJob Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Couldn't get too upset with that. A few of the young players have said Mulgrew has been brilliant for them, talking them through games etc. Don't rate him to highly but it's maybe a means to an end.Aye it’s no shock that I’m not a fan of Mulgrew but as you say from a more experienced player like him to be a mentor for the young players and it is a very young squad which is great to see. Here’s hoping over the next few years there’s another bunch of youth players ready to make the step up Link to comment
Reliablesource Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Don't talk about football. You have zero knowledge on the subject.Don't feed the troll. 1 Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Extremely true. Especially with strikersKris Boyd banging them in? Pick Steven FletcherSteven Fletcher banging them in? Pick Kenny MillerKenny Miller banging them in? Play 4-6-0Griffiths banging them in? Time to give Chris Martin from Coldplay a run Exactly this! Look at Ryan Christie, he was on fire, not picked, form dipped, in you go you looked okay a season ago, it’s a constant joke In the Spiders Web, there is a picture of the Scotland squad with Jamie Langfield in it Always raises a chuckle from me, when in.Waterboy? Link to comment
boboisared Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Shinnie if you're being realistic.Shinnie is there as a defender though. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Aye it’s no shock that I’m not a fan of Mulgrew but as you say from a more experienced player like him to be a mentor for the young players and it is a very young squad which is great to see. Here’s hoping over the next few years there’s another bunch of youth players ready to make the step upThe cunt can't even look after his own kids ffs how can he mentor others. Hand them an iPad & say 'I'll be back in a minute'? 3 Link to comment
dave_min Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Shinnie is there as a defender though.And to put the cones out at training. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Shinnie is there as a defender though. Aye, that was my interpretation of the comments... Shinnie will back-up Robertson and Tierney will play as part of a back 3 (realistically this will be a back 5) Link to comment
Mr John Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 ...and Matt Ritchie. Looks so good for Newcastle, but has never turned up for Scotland. He's scored 3 in 16 games, not sure how many assists. Given the recent under performance of our national squad, he is essentially, the best of a bad bunch.We do have a glut of wingers though, so it would be nice to see Fraser/GMS picked ahead of him, or Robertson moved up to a more attacking wide role with Tiernay/Shinnie backing him up. They're all quicker. On current form, I think GMS should be in the squad. He has had an excellent start to the season. Similarly Devlin should be in ahead of Jack hendry, not sure why he is there at all to be honest. Has McTominay actually played for Man United this season? Delighted to see that the only sevco addition is the 3rd choice goalkeeper. GMS - yes, he's only played once before unbelievably. Devlin has had a good start for us and if he and McKenna go on to be a solid partnership could be this generation's Miller and Mcleish, but Hendry is old firm, so will get the nod, sadly. Hopefully he gets injured and Septic are left with nae centre-backs. Ha ha! Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 He's scored 3 in 16 games, not sure how many assists. Given the recent under performance of our national squad, he is essentially, the best of a bad bunch.We do have a glut of wingers though, so it would be nice to see Fraser/GMS picked ahead of him, or Robertson moved up to a more attacking wide role with Tiernay/Shinnie backing him up. They're all quicker. GMS - yes, he's only played once before unbelievably. Devlin has had a good start for us and if he and McKenna go on to be a solid partnership could be this generation's Miller and Mcleish, but Hendry is old firm, so will get the nod, sadly. Hopefully he gets injured and Septic are left with nae centre-backs. Ha ha! Andy Robertson could play left wing for Scotland no problem at all which means he could play Tierney at left back. Signs are he might go with a back 3 though. In that case he could play Tierney left wing back and Robertson has the ability to play left of the 3 in midfield, like Shinnie does for us. There's plenty of ways he can get Robertson and Tierney in the same team without playing Tierney at right back. Robertson has to be the first name on the teamsheet, he's our best player by a country mile. Fraser should definitely be in the team ahead of Paterson or Forrest either at right wing when playing 4 at the back or right wing back when he plays 3 at the back. Another player who should be one of the first on the teamsheet and given a run of games. Looks like he wants Mulgrew in the defence regardless of 3 or 4 at the back. McKenna is a stick on to be in there too. Probably between Hendrie and Souttar for the other spot though Devlin has a chance if he keeps his early Aberdeen form up. The boy from Leeds was highly rated before, not sure if he is getting a game under Bielsa? There's a real opportunity to play a young and exciting team here which can form the basis for the next two or three tournaments. Problem is up front. The options there are pretty threadbare. Griffiths, McBurnie or shoehorning Phillips in there seem to be the only real options at the moment. We need some young strikers coming through and getting first team games. 1 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Andy Robertson could play left wing for Scotland no problem at all which means he could play Tierney at left back. How do you know this? He has literally never played there. Apart from being on the same flank, the positions are not really the same at all Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Andy Robertson could play left wing for Scotland no problem at all which means he could play Tierney at left back. Signs are he might go with a back 3 though. In that case he could play Tierney left wing back and Robertson has the ability to play left of the 3 in midfield, like Shinnie does for us. There's plenty of ways he can get Robertson and Tierney in the same team without playing Tierney at right back. Robertson has to be the first name on the teamsheet, he's our best player by a country mile. Fraser should definitely be in the team ahead of Paterson or Forrest either at right wing when playing 4 at the back or right wing back when he plays 3 at the back. Another player who should be one of the first on the teamsheet and given a run of games. Looks like he wants Mulgrew in the defence regardless of 3 or 4 at the back. McKenna is a stick on to be in there too. Probably between Hendrie and Souttar for the other spot though Devlin has a chance if he keeps his early Aberdeen form up. The boy from Leeds was highly rated before, not sure if he is getting a game under Bielsa? There's a real opportunity to play a young and exciting team here which can form the basis for the next two or three tournaments. Problem is up front. The options there are pretty threadbare. Griffiths, McBurnie or shoehorning Phillips in there seem to be the only real options at the moment. We need some young strikers coming through and getting first team games.If Robertson is our best player then play him in his position. LWB. Link to comment
Henry Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Could play Shay Logan at left wing. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 How do you know this? He has literally never played there. Apart from being on the same flank, the positions are not really the same at all Because he's got all the attributes to play there? He's got good control, pace, can beat a man and get a cross in Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If Robertson is our best player then play him in his position. LWB. Ideally, yes. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 How do you know this? He has literally never played there. Apart from being on the same flank, the positions are not really the same at all Also, Gareth Bale used to be a left back. But Spurs realised he had the attributes to play further forward. Van Bronkhurst was an attacking midfielder in Holland and at Rangers. When he went To Barcelona he played left back as he had the attributes to play there and they had better forward players. Ideally you want to have 11 players playing in their favourite positions. But it can't be set in stone. Link to comment
Poodler Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Could play Shay Logan at left wing. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Also, Gareth Bale used to be a left back. But Spurs realised he had the attributes to play further forward. Van Bronkhurst was an attacking midfielder in Holland and at Rangers. When he went To Barcelona he played left back as he had the attributes to play there and they had better forward players. Ideally you want to have 11 players playing in their favourite positions. But it can't be set in stone.Gareth bale wasn't a very good left back though and was being played out of position by redknapp Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Gareth bale wasn't a very good left back though and was being played out of position by redknappFair enough. The general point though was that it's sometimes better to play someone out of their favoured position for the benefit of the team as a whole provided they have the attributes to play there. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Fair enough. The general point though was that it's sometimes better to play someone out of their favoured position for the benefit of the team as a whole provided they have the attributes to play there.I don't think Robertson has the attributes, and believe the team would benefit having him play in his strongest position... Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I don't think Robertson has the attributes, and believe the team would benefit having him play in his strongest position...Which is fair enough. I think Tierney and Robertson on the left is a better option than say Robertson and Russell but there's plenty of ways to skin the cat. Link to comment
dave_min Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I’m not usually one for controversy, but I’d say that Gareth Bale is better at football than Shinnie. Link to comment
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