Redforever86 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Roberto said: Again? No way, once was enough. Worth a try. Link to comment
minijc Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Roberto said: No one claims it didn't happen previously. What people claim is (And yes I believe massive coincidence) it seems to be happening more regularly. That's how I read it anyways but as I say, I haven't looked that deep. Just what people without the vaccine (not anti vaxxers you'll notice... that term is poor) seem to say. I get ye but that's nae my point, these are people taking old clips and blaming the vaccine for those players collapsing. Few things at play, covid brings on myocarditis in some as does the vaccine, this will be heightened in younger people, especially athletes, also an awful lot of footballers now and filled with supplements and they are pushed to their limits, it's mental to just blame the vaccine. I also find it mental that folk who have spent almost 2 years saying hospitals and doctors use covid as an excuse for any death now blame the vaccines for anyone that has issues even when these folk have no idea if a person has been vaccinated. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: I think it's more likely to be COVID. This pandemic has been a ridiculous stress on everyone at some point, and that won't help either. Especially if they are predisposed to such conditions and don't take care of themselves. Footballers are being asked to play more games in shorter time frames than usual. Not to say that some people might not have had an adverse reaction to the vaccine, but to say it's directly linked to the vaccine and solely the vaccine, is a big old stretch. Aye nae as if footballers are being regularly tested for covid The second bit in bold - LOL Link to comment
NEM Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Studebaker-90 said: I wondered if the booster was responsible for the shooting pain I sometimes get in my anus but remembered I’ve experienced that my entire life’s Shooty arse https://www.johnseton.com/golf-performance-specialist-costablanca-blog/shooty-arse Link to comment
Guest Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, NEM said: Aye nae as if footballers are being regularly tested for covid The second bit in bold - LOL 1st bit- Yah. And some of them are getting COVID. Second part is relevant. When they came back in 2021 they were Wednesday Saturday for a good while, the elite players have more international matches to contend with. But also, crucially, do you have any evidence that more players are experiencing heart issues than before? Link to comment
NEM Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: 1st bit- Yah. And some of them are getting COVID. Second part is relevant. When they came back in 2021 they were Wednesday Saturday for a good while, the elite players have more international matches to contend with. But also, crucially, do you have any evidence that more players are experiencing heart issues than before? Aye and they’re not allowed to play football until they test negative. No it isn’t - they aren’t playing any more games than they were before. The championship in England for example is practically Wednesday Saturday for the entire season and always has been. Nah players and fans collapsing has always been a weekly occurrence…. Link to comment
Guest Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 What is incredibly frustrating is people coming away with anti vax stuff and then speaking to you like you're an idiot. With nothing to back it up. If there's a definitive study on the vaccine causing these footballers to drop, I'll hold my hands up. At the moment though it's just desperate speculation for people who believe what they want to believe. If folks don't want to get the vaccine, fair on. Don't come spouting shite like it's the reason for footballers having heart problems. Link to comment
Guest Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, NEM said: No it isn’t - they aren’t playing any more games than they were before. The championship in England for example is practically Wednesday Saturday for the entire season and always has been. Nah players and fans collapsing has always been a weekly occurrence…. Any evidence of the link? Or just speculative shite to back up your own opinion? I'll go with the latter. Interesting how you think people should respect your choice of not taking the vaccine, yet here you are spouting baseless shit to further make your point. That's not a way for people to respect your stance. Link to comment
Guest Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, Parklife said: Marc-Vivien Foe died of heart issues while still playing, Antonio Puerta collapsed on the pitch and died, Fabrice Muambu collapsed on the pitch and very nearly died. All long before Covid and vaccines for it. Im sure there's unfortunately plenty more but that's just off the top of my head. It probably happens all over. We'd only hear of the relatively high profile ones before. Now, the media are extremely keen to report on every such instance, because that's what's probably getting attention. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Any evidence of the link? Or just speculative shite to back up your own opinion? I'll go with the latter. Interesting how you think people should respect your choice of not taking the vaccine, yet here you are spouting baseless shit to further make your point. That's not a way for people to respect your stance. What baseless shite is that then? You suffering from reading and comprehension problems again? As if I give a fuck what posters on an internet message board think about “my stance” ? Some folk take this place far too seriously. Sad Link to comment
Guest Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, NEM said: What baseless shite is that then? You suffering from reading and comprehension problems again? As if I give a fuck what posters on an internet message board think about “my stance” ? Some folk take this place far too seriously. Sad You're clearly arguing against my points regarding players collapsing and the vaccines. You obviously think there's a link. Baseless. Shite. Yeah, I do get the impression you don't give a fuck what people think of your stance. Not like you ever mention it or make it clear. ? Link to comment
NEM Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: You're clearly arguing against my points regarding players collapsing and the vaccines. You obviously think there's a link. Baseless. Shite. Yeah, I do get the impression you don't give a fuck what people think of your stance. Not like you ever mention it or make it clear. ? Quote me on the baseless shite please ? Link to comment
Guest Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, NEM said: Quote me on the baseless shite please ? You're arguing against my assertion that it's not vaccine related. It's logical for me to conclude that you think they are. Which is baseless shite. Unless you're telling me, you don't think players are dropping because of the vaccines? Which then makes me wonder, why would you argue with anything I said at all? Just because you've not explicitly stated something doesn't mean I can't see where you're coming from. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: You're arguing against my assertion that it's not vaccine related. It's logical for me to conclude that you think they are. Which is baseless shite. Unless you're telling me, you don't think players are dropping because of the vaccines? Which then makes me wonder, why would you argue with anything I said at all? Just because you've not explicitly stated something doesn't mean I can't see where you're coming from. Ah so you’re just making it up in your head then. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Are there bushfires again this year or is just the heat? ? https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/10/three-players-drop-out-of-australian-open-with-chest-issues-while-djokovic-awaits-his-fate/ Link to comment
tutankamun Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Even Piers is nearly getting it 1 Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Matt Le Tissier has called for an investigation to see if there is some sort of reasoning for the supposed increase in heart problems in players. He’s been ridiculed and not just for his barnet for doing so. Why would that be? If it’s covids related, then it’s important to know, if it’s total chance, it’s good to know. 1 Link to comment
Ramandu Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: You're arguing against my assertion that it's not vaccine related. Too early to assert that imo. I think there's a decent chance it's contributed, but can't assert anything at the moment. I recall when the Pfizer vaccine was being rolled out and there were initial reports of heart issues, well meaning people were too quick to rubbish it all. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Ramandu said: Too early to assert that imo. I think there's a decent chance it's contributed, but can't assert anything at the moment. I recall when the Pfizer vaccine was being rolled out and there were initial reports of heart issues, well meaning people were too quick to rubbish it all. Exactly. The fact it’s being flatly denied should raise alarm bells - it clearly warrants a proper investigation and open discussion. But nah just ridicule anyone who dares to mention it ? 1 Link to comment
Quagmire Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said: Every one ey forgets Phil O'Donnell poor cunt. He was a fine player. Maybe wasn't heart issues - cah mind, probably was - but he died on the pitch. Early-Covid. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Covid cock now FFS ? Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, tutankamun said: Covid cock now FFS ? The anonymous fat Dundonian man said “that’s my story and I am sticking to it. At least I’ve still an inch left” Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 58 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said: The anonymous fat Dundonian man said “that’s my story and I am sticking to it. At least I’ve still an inch left” You’re fae Dundee Bri. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Redforever86 said: You’re fae Dundee Bri. Eh don’t identify as a man today. Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said: Eh don’t identify as a man today. Well, when you've not seen it for that long, it's hard to remember I guess. You fat monstrosultay. Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said: Every one ey forgets Phil O'Donnell poor cunt. He was a fine player. Maybe wasn't heart issues - cah mind, probably was - but he died on the pitch. He had a heart attack on the pitch. 'Everyone' hasn't forgotten, it's common knowledge. Just Google it if you're not sure Link to comment
Guest Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I believe Lilian Thuram had to retire slightly earlier than planned due to a heart issue. Im sure it's something else, mind. Link to comment
Parklife Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said: Every one ey forgets Phil O'Donnell poor cunt. He was a fine player. Maybe wasn't heart issues - cah mind, probably was - but he died on the pitch. Fair point. Bizarre that I forgot the one that happened in Scotland. My mistake. Link to comment
Parklife Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 7 hours ago, NEM said: Exactly. The fact it’s being flatly denied should raise alarm bells - it clearly warrants a proper investigation and open discussion. But nah just ridicule anyone who dares to mention it ? Have a proper discussion then. Which vaccinated players have been having heart issues? How's does this number compare with non-vaccinated players currently, or players from 2015-2020? Link to comment
Guest Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Parklife said: Have a proper discussion then. Which vaccinated players have been having heart issues? How's does this number compare with non-vaccinated players currently, or players from 2015-2020? No. Best to speculate in alignment with your predetermined view. Link to comment
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