maryhilldon Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ke1t said: He launched a bunch of missiles at Iran, which just seemed to be a spontaneous "I'm hard" exercise without thinking through what would happen next. (Attacks on American bases) That's more about doing the bidding of Israel and their hawkish lobby in America. And you said the Libya intervention was a Nato backed conflict , weren't Iraq and Afghanistan also Nato backed? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, maryhilldon said: That's more about doing the bidding of Israel and their hawkish lobby in America. And you said the Libya intervention was a Nato backed conflict , weren't Iran and Afghanistan also Nato backed? I assume you mean Iraq. No.. that was The Coalition of the Willing, because most NATO countries wanted nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq. Remember, it was America, Tony Blair's UK, and I think the Marshall Islands and various other places. Afghanistan was more than even just NATO. Funny thing was we didn't even need to have a war... Afghanistan offered to turn OBL over to a third party for trial, and Bush said, nah, we'll just invade you. Both Wars under Bush, though, and neither necessary from any military standpoint. Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ke1t said: I assume you mean Iraq. Aye, already edited it. Well it'll be interesting to see how the Biden admin conduct themselves in foreign policy matters. Trump was all bluster and rhetoric but didn't really get involved militarily compared to previous admins. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 That documentary about Gary Locke sure was wide ranging. Are you sure this was all covered? 1 2 Link to comment
Guest Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Ke1t said: 100% it is. But an 'Act of War' doesn't necessarily lead to a war, and in the case of the Clinton and Obama administrations they calculated, rightly, that their actions wouldn't start a war or expand a current war. In fact, the bombing of the Serbs went a long way to halting genocide and ending a war. So we could actually reset their 0 to -1. In the case of Bush, (Cheney, let's be honest) there was a direct, unprovoked invasion on two counts, and an asinine war without end for the third. So, is it only a war if one side doesn't retaliate? Link to comment
The Buzzard Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: Won't change each others minds but I at least will say you've made an articulate argument without being a dick about it or personally offensive. Fair play. I know from reading your past posts that the most offence you have taken from reading these posts is the references to people with disabilities - pretty sure that it's something close to home for you. It's not for me to speak on behalf of others but I'd guess nobody really means to cause you offence in that area. All the other stuff, I'm sure you can take on the chin. Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: Fair enough lad. I wasn't having a pop at you in particular. I was just musing really. No worries mate, it's a forum, happy we all muse. ?? I try not to offend, especially on another fans forum. But the nature of forums is an average of 4 posts before an argument. ? Hope you're well. 1 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, The Buzzard said: I know from reading your past posts that the most offence you have taken from reading these posts is the references to people with disabilities - pretty sure that it's something close to home for you. It's not for me to speak on behalf of others but I'd guess nobody really means to cause you offence in that area. All the other stuff, I'm sure you can take on the chin. Thanks mate, appreciate that. And yes it is. So without being a bore about it, it's on people like me to try to ask that people, who you're right are probably decent and don't mean offence, just to think about the language they use. I'd hate to think anybody sees a disabled kid and thinks, oh magic that reminds me how to be funny or the big man in the pub later or on the forum tonight. But forums are rarely the place for mature understanding, I get that. Thanks again Buzzard. ?? 1 Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: Thanks mate, appreciate that. And yes it is. So without being a bore about it, it's on people like me to try to ask that people, who you're right are probably decent and don't mean offence, just to think about the language they use. I'd hate to think anybody sees a disabled kid and thinks, oh magic that reminds me how to be funny or the big man in the pub later or on the forum tonight. But forums are rarely the place for mature understanding, I get that. Thanks again Buzzard. ?? You should know by now that the majority of people who type stuff like that wouldnt say it face to face in real life. Its for mock outrage and reaction. Giving them that reaction feeds their egos my man. Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: So without being a bore about it, it's on people like me to try to ask that people, who you're right are probably decent and don't mean offence, just to think about the language they use. Yet you're casting up my use of a word a single time, which I conceded was poor and apologised for, many months later to have a sly wee dig at me. ?♂️ 1 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: No worries mate, it's a forum, happy we all muse. ?? I try not to offend, especially on another fans forum. But the nature of forums is an average of 4 posts before an argument. ? Hope you're well. One post is normally enough to kick off an argument here. Aye, as well as can be expected, thanks. Just scunnered like most others. Hope you and yours are we well too. Cheers 1 Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: Boo fucking hoo. Casting up? Grow up. Man up. If it's sly wee digs you object to, do you want a full frontal? Sickening. Are you involved in this conversation, dickhead? Nope, so fuck off. 2 1 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Yet you're casting up my use of a word a single time, which I conceded was poor and apologised for, many months later to have a sly wee dig at me. ?♂️ In all honesty didn't catch that you'd apologised. Apologies aren't easy on forums for anyone. So genuinely that was good on your part and appreciated. And I'm not point scoring. No personal digs, let's keep it to football. You watching the Cup final? ? C'mon. I've teed it up for you to say hope yous get fucked ya diet hun....?♂️ 1 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: One post is normally enough to kick off an argument here. Aye, as well as can be expected, thanks. Just scunnered like most others. Hope you and yours are we well too. Cheers Isn't there some kind of research or something that says every forum discussion is only 20-30 posts away on average from referencing Hitler? Or did I just make that up. ? I suppose forums would be boring if we all agreed. Even the Celtic one will be full of folk arguing. And they're going for four trebles. Hoping for normality back soon. Hey, a vaccine. I'm happy if they start with politicians, scientific advisers and journalists. THEN the public. But imagine that first pint in a busy pub with no masks on.....?? Hope you and family well too. ? 1 Link to comment
Henry Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: I suppose forums would be boring if we all agreed. No they fucking wouldn't. 1 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Henry said: No they fucking wouldn't. Oh yes they fuckin would ?? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 hours ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: So, is it only a war if one side doesn't retaliate? I assume you mean 'does' retaliate. No. Iran retaliated against the US attack, for example. Didn't go to war. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Yeah the liberals prefer to have their wars/riots at home in the streets tbf Make America Riotous Again Link to comment
Guest Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Ke1t said: I assume you mean 'does' retaliate. No. Iran retaliated against the US attack, for example. Didn't go to war. I'd say you're already at war then. Link to comment
Guest Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Yeah the liberals prefer to have their wars/riots at home in the streets tbf Make America Riotous Again Yeah, for no reason at all as well! Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 9 hours ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Yeah, for no reason at all as well! Do they need a reason for a riot? Other than if there hasn’t been a riot for a couple of weekends? Baby mammas go out window shopping through the week to compile their lists, then when weekends come some fall guy has to go get shot by a cop so the rest can go collect their booty’s shopping. Link to comment
Guest Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 4:02 AM, fine-n-dandy said: Do they need a reason for a riot? Other than if there hasn’t been a riot for a couple of weekends? Baby mammas go out window shopping through the week to compile their lists, then when weekends come some fall guy has to go get shot by a cop so the rest can go collect their booty’s shopping. Had my suspicions, but you've now just confirmed you're a colossal mongo. Cba arguing with you. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Nothing to argue with. It’s pretty much the way of it. Link to comment
davieb Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 10:00 AM, Wester Hailes Skins said: You another lefty Aberdeen socialist up there? Loving the SNP. Hating Trump. And picking on those with disabilities. It was maybe the only bit of the hour I was proud of. Trump lost, get over it yah loser! Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, davieb said: Trump lost, get over it yah loser! He's not lost yet. Courts decide. Not TV networks. 1 1 Link to comment
davieb Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: He's not lost yet. Courts decide. Not TV networks. lol that's funny, parroting what the other losers have been scripted to say! It's actually the states that decide, and there goes Arizona and Georgia as well, the deadbeat draft dodger has fucked it up big time! Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 The netflix Sunderland one was brilliant. Jack rodwell on 60k a week, never plays for them, Martin hun Bain, the CEO, asked him to leave and rodwell was like ha ha ha, no chance. And when the new owners came in and hun bain got his jotters, the new owners checked out the training ground. They had one of those cryo chambers that cost 10s of thousands of pounds. The new owners are like, who uses this, Martin Bain is the only one. Ha ha. Shame for the fans, but what a mess of a club. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Aye the Sunderland one was good. I'm enjoying the Hearts one. Stendel is hilarious, like a character out of Allo Allo. You can tell Budge thinks he's a numpty already. Levein trying to convince everyone it wasn't his fault. Naismith looking shifty and untrustworthy. And Gary Locke as the village idiot. Great viewing. Link to comment
Simply Red Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Levein comes across like he’s been the victim of sexual abuse at the hands of budge and the only reason he got sacked was cos he finally told her he wasnt touching her burger with his tongue ever again just to stay in a job. Gary Locke’s a fucking imecile. I bet all his colleagues would agree. Stendel haha. Mcphee ahaha. Fuck sake what a shambles. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Simply Red said: Levein comes across like he’s been the victim of sexual abuse at the hands of budge and the only reason he got sacked was cos he finally told her he wasnt touching her burger with his tongue ever again just to stay in a job. Gary Locke’s a fucking imecile. I bet all his colleagues would agree. Stendel haha. Mcphee ahaha. Fuck sake what a shambles. They let Gary Locke manage that club once. Unbelievable. I know they were skint but bloody hell. And to make matters worse, 3 other senior clubs appointed him as manager too. Link to comment
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