Andy Considine

[manboobs109]

Why does he even have an agent? He's only ever been at one club.

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Just now, manboobs109 said:

Why does he even have an agent? He's only ever been at one club.

He's with a great agency as well, shame someone has failed to be professional though.

[manboobs109]

2 minutes ago, minijc said:

He's with a great agency as well, shame someone has failed to be professional though.

In reality he's never needed one though. The club will have looked after him.

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Just now, manboobs109 said:

In reality he's never needed one though. The club will have looked after him.

It could be as simple as one of his mates working for them and taking him on or maybe they just approached him and he seen that it made sense, couple of other players at the club with the same agency too.

[Ke1t]

Doesn't matter if he was 'A great servant to the club'. He got paid for doing his job, and that's the end of the transaction. He's in his mid thirties, and was never a great player even at his peak.

Whether our defence would have been a little steadier with him in there this season is anybody's guess.

Reliable and consistently mediocre doesn't get my balls tingling, though.

 

[Crashnyploshnit]

10 hours ago, The D.O.C.1903 said:

And it all started with that shady cunt cormack! Hey maybe he'll stand outside pittodrie n hand out free tickets on sat? Nah no chance the tory voting cunt would do that. I think the yank wannabe should be hounded out our Club, and I also think once he's left' cormack Park should be renamed 

He may be Tory voting (I would like to know how you know he votes Republican) but he at least has put his hand in his pocket for the good of the club. Too many folk on here complain bitterly about Cormack not spending money yet they are too tight themselves to help increase the clubs coffers, the club they supposedly support. 

[Millertime]

28 minutes ago, The D.O.C.1903 said:

Don't put words in my mouth bro! I never said anything about considine offering more than dunne. He's not even a regular at Mwell

"Not a regular at motherwell" is an understatement and a half 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

1 hour ago, The D.O.C.1903 said:

Don't put words in my mouth bro! I never said anything about considine offering more than dunne. He's not even a regular at Mwell

Aye, that’s cos Dunne left Motherwell in May. 

[King Street Loon]

Goodwin doubling down on the leak coming from Considine his family or his agent during the pre match press conference. 

Poor bugger got asked the same question slightly differently about 4-5 times.

[Ten Caat]

2 hours ago, thurso said:

Is it ten grand. I thought it was a lot less when the people I knew done it but if it is ok 

He's part way through it anyway. No idea if he self funded or if the club paid for it. No matter what, it's a relatively small outlay for the club even if they were funding the full course

Livi's assistant manager Marvin Bartley said he was on the coaching course with him yesterday on Clyde1. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Millertime said:

"Not a regular at motherwell" is an understatement and a half 

But I meant in his time I watched him flounder to become a regular there, any way its a pish standard unless as back up only. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Crashnyploshnit said:

He may be Tory voting (I would like to know how you know he votes Republican) but he at least has put his hand in his pocket for the good of the club. Too many folk on here complain bitterly about Cormack not spending money yet they are too tight themselves to help increase the clubs coffers, the club they supposedly support. 

I'm not one of the tight fisted I can assure you' I complain about him because I feel he's bad for the club overall and fan ownership would be the ideal thing. 

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

12 hours ago, zeroisgod76 said:

Maybe... just maybe some people aren't clever enough to understand. In NO job (footballer or not) would you just accept a potentially large wage cut without at least negotiating it. Its not that hard to understand.

Do some people genuinely think that as he's now 35 he should just have snapped their hand off at whatever amount they offered him?

The fact that the club have gone public on this... with vague references to finances has thrown Considine under the bus.

As has been pointed out the clubs claim of a 6 figure offer could simply be £2k a week. He may have previously been on £4k a week for all we know. Requesting a 50% increase on the offer would have taken it up to £3k a week which would still be a £52k a year wage cut. The club have cleverly worded it so that the idiots in our support think he was being greedy and after an extortionate amount of money when the likelihood is this wasn't the case.

You have no right to be speaking about idiots when you are comparing the career of a professional athlete to an office worker ? he’s 35 years old and has just missed an entire season. I doubt many clubs would be offering him a 2 year deal. Even Ryan giggs was only getting 1 year deals at Man U at that age. 
 

Considine has every right to ask for more money. Aberdeen have every right to say no and end negotiations based on that. There's nothing much more to it. 
 

fuck knows where he’ll end up. Think I recall a 33 or so year old Derek Whyte rejecting an extension with us and he ended up going to Partick for a season and getting relegated 

[Kiriakov33]

The leak was from ACs side so I really don’t know why the club is getting blamed for anything.  The outcome of the meeting between Goodwin and AC was that the club had withdrawn the offer and they would jointly announce it today.  Leak was either from his mates, sponsor or agent trying to amend their original fuck up. 
IMO  the club have done nothing wrong.   AC has been a great servant to the club but the club have been a great servant to him.   I have a feeling he will bitterly regret not accepting the original offer.

[Jigsaw666]

Truth be told he'll be forgotten by the first match of next season. Doubt I'll be hearing "we should never have got rid of Considine" at any time thereafter regardless of our results.

[King Street Loon]

7 minutes ago, Jigsaw666 said:

Truth be told he'll be forgotten by the first match of next season. Doubt I'll be hearing "we should never have got rid of Considine" at any time thereafter regardless of our results.

You can guarantee that the usual trolls on here will be saying it.

[JamieMT]

Would like to have seen Andy Considine play another season and then transition into the coaching set-up. Sadly it isn't to be.

Underrated player, taking this season in isolation, our defence took a massive hit when he suffered his injury. Bigger picture, i think he would have enjoyed more success and acclaim had he stayed at Centre Back. He was never a Left Back (by his own admission too), but he was willing to play where he was required and that should add to the appreciation for him. A player always about the team, not himself.

Regarding his departure, i can appreciate both sides. The player isn't wrong in wanting a longer contract and higher wage, the club isn't wrong in offering the opposite.

As far as the media games go, whoever leaked the story did no one any favours, least of all Andy. But i don't think Goodwin came out of this smelling of Roses either. His statement while not inaccurate chose to omit certain facts to paint a very specific picture and in failing to acknowledge Considine's contribution over the years, he showed a lack of class.

[aberdeen1970]

I suspect Goodwin never wanted him anyway. 

The date he got offered the new deal predated Goodwin's appointment so the counter offer gave him the ideal opportunity to withdraw the contract. 

At the end of the day it's the right decision, we need younger blood to kick start a new era, just a pity its ended up getting messy. 

[JamieMT]

"At the end of the day it's the right decision, we need younger blood to kick start a new era, just a pity its ended up getting messy."

Can't argue any of that. As long as we make the right signings, a parting of the ways is the right decision. Just wish it could have been handled better.

[Andy_123]

57 minutes ago, Jigsaw666 said:

Truth be told he'll be forgotten by the first match of next season. Doubt I'll be hearing "we should never have got rid of Considine" at any time thereafter regardless of our results.

There are still folk on twitter saying we shouldn’t have got rid of Logan for Brown last summer, so you can guarantee Considine won’t have been forgotten by everyone by next season

[WesthillWanderersFC]

50 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I suspect Goodwin never wanted him anyway. 

The date he got offered the new deal predated Goodwin's appointment so the counter offer gave him the ideal opportunity to withdraw the contract. 

At the end of the day it's the right decision, we need younger blood to kick start a new era, just a pity its ended up getting messy. 

The lads on ABZ podcast made that point tonight. 
Goodwin was maybe doing the decent thing & knew “politically” how it would look if he withdrew the original 12 month offer made.

The agents counter offer of 2 years gave him the opportunity to remove it, & release Considine

All fine by me….strongly caveated with a no to Charles Dunne. 

[super_al]

3 hours ago, JamieMT said:

Would like to have seen Andy Considine play another season and then transition into the coaching set-up. Sadly it isn't to be.

Underrated player, taking this season in isolation, our defence took a massive hit when he suffered his injury. Bigger picture, i think he would have enjoyed more success and acclaim had he stayed at Centre Back. He was never a Left Back (by his own admission too), but he was willing to play where he was required and that should add to the appreciation for him. A player always about the team, not himself.

Regarding his departure, i can appreciate both sides. The player isn't wrong in wanting a longer contract and higher wage, the club isn't wrong in offering the opposite.

As far as the media games go, whoever leaked the story did no one any favours, least of all Andy. But i don't think Goodwin came out of this smelling of Roses either. His statement while not inaccurate chose to omit certain facts to paint a very specific picture and in failing to acknowledge Considine's contribution over the years, he showed a lack of class.

Its the right decision. Lets move on.

[fine-n-dandy]

This does bode well for summer. Dare say Goodwin would have done everything he could to keep a player like Considine at St Mirren. Nice that he has better hopes for Aberdeen but not if Dunne is actually a real target (& for a fkn fee) ?

Paying a fee for Dunne would be just as bad as when Mcinnes tried to buy Tansey. Still ended up getting his man though ?

[strachanmcgheegoal]

9 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I suspect Goodwin never wanted him anyway. 

The date he got offered the new deal predated Goodwin's appointment so the counter offer gave him the ideal opportunity to withdraw the contract. 

At the end of the day it's the right decision, we need younger blood to kick start a new era, just a pity its ended up getting messy. 

Exactly.  We’re thinking of the heart on sleeve Consi that played for us.  Goodwin is looking at the there-to-be-got-at Consi that he used to put teams against.

[zeroisgod76]

10 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

You have no right to be speaking about idiots when you are comparing the career of a professional athlete to an office worker ? he’s 35 years old and has just missed an entire season. I doubt many clubs would be offering him a 2 year deal. Even Ryan giggs was only getting 1 year deals at Man U at that age. 
 

Considine has every right to ask for more money. Aberdeen have every right to say no and end negotiations based on that. There's nothing much more to it. 
 

fuck knows where he’ll end up. Think I recall a 33 or so year old Derek Whyte rejecting an extension with us and he ended up going to Partick for a season and getting relegated 

Wow you're dense. I've not compared a professional athletes career with an office worker. I've pointed out that an office worker coming to retirement age would be an idiot to just accept a huge paycut for working the same hours Monday-Friday, same intensity but only working part time on a Saturday. Similarly so would a footballer. I'm not saying he's worth the same wage as he was previously on but there is absolutely no issue with him negotiating what he felt would be a good deal for him.

[bonzodaddy73]

I was fortunate enough to watch Miller and Mcleish as a kid and just shake my head at the downfall in standard since those days. The fact some folk are acting like Considine was some sort of defensive messiah is laughable he was bang average on a good day!

No room for sentiment in this day and age, lucky he got offered anything if I'm being honest. Also I'm pretty certain he will be accepting a lot less at whatever club signs him. 

Thanks for the limited memories, you did next to fuck all for 18 years.

[zeroisgod76]

16 minutes ago, bonzodaddy73 said:

I was fortunate enough to watch Miller and Mcleish as a kid and just shake my head at the downfall in standard since those days. The fact some folk are acting like Considine was some sort of defensive messiah is laughable he was bang average on a good day!

No room for sentiment in this day and age, lucky he got offered anything if I'm being honest. Also I'm pretty certain he will be accepting a lot less at whatever club signs him. 

Thanks for the limited memories, you did next to fuck all for 18 years.

I don't think anyone is claiming he's some sort of defensive messiah. The sad thing is though, despite his limited abilities we have still missed him this season since his injury.

[Schapenneuker]

30 minutes ago, zeroisgod76 said:

I don't think anyone is claiming he's some sort of defensive messiah. The sad thing is though, despite his limited abilities we have still missed him this season since his injury.

Considine is/was by a million miles the best defender at the club. 

I don't know if that's a compliment to big Andy or a condemnation of the rest of our defence. A bit of both. 

Like lots of defenders, Andy improved at the end of his career. He was a much better player a year ago than he was 10 years ago for instance ..... and I don't believe for the last few years he could be described as 'average'. I would have said he was one of the best defenders in the country, tbh.

What he's always missed and could do nothing about, is that extra yard of pace. If he'd had that, he probably wouldn't have been at Pittodrie all his career and would have gained loads of caps. 

 

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28 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said:

Considine is/was by a million miles the best defender at the club. 

I don't know if that's a compliment to big Andy or a condemnation of the rest of our defence. A bit of both. 

Like lots of defenders, Andy improved at the end of his career. He was a much better player a year ago than he was 10 years ago for instance ..... and I don't believe for the last few years he could be described as 'average'. I would have said he was one of the best defenders in the country, tbh.

What he's always missed and could do nothing about, is that extra yard of pace. If he'd had that, he probably wouldn't have been at Pittodrie all his career and would have gained loads of caps. 

 

Settle.

[Parklife]

32 minutes ago, Schapenneuker said:

I would have said he was one of the best defenders in the country, tbh.

 

 

I like Andy but fucking hell 

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