Ke1t Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Love that picture. Belgium World Cup semi final 1986 I think He was brilliant that game too, scored both goals. It's no bad. It's no McLeish vs England, though. 2 Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Hate that misleading photo of DM receiving a short free kick v Belgium. He lost the ball almost instantly. Link to comment
YorkDon Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: Been doing the rounds that een.Terrific pic. Link to comment
Proud Dandy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Ten Caat said: I did say in dire emergency. It hasn't happened because...….well it hasn't happened. I also doubt Messi could play right back...….although I'm sure he'd be ok at left back. In an emergency Your sounding like Derek. Wanting to convert one of the greatest players ever to play the game into a right back ? Link to comment
perthshirered Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 hours ago, rocket_scientist said: I saw Pele in the 1970 World Cup on TV and like you TC, Ronaldo the only one I've seen in action. My opinion of his greatness wasn't based on the one game I saw him play, which he won single-handedly, but on thousands of hours of football over many decades. Anybody spitting "seen much of them aye?" or similar in a debate such as this is a mutant, best ignored. Listen to the resident biff. That meltdown can't be far off you slavering wreck. 1 Link to comment
perthshirered Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Ten Caat said: I'm old enough to remember Pele at the end of his career at New York Cosmos. All on Tv of course. The only one I have seen play in the flesh is Ronaldo. And of course....my opinion is one I respect. Unlike yours..... Seriously though, what kind of Mongol would even mention about Ronaldo being able to do a job in defence if needs be, what relevance is that? In that case can I put forward Matt Elliot as potentially one of the greatest players ever, perhaps Callum Patterson or Dion Dublin too. Messi is easily the best ever because his maw makes a fine plate of mince and tatties. Link to comment
perthshirered Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Just now, rocket_scientist said: You keep to being an antagonistic arsehole and keep us entertained with "hilarious" jokes about mince and tatties. Imagine anyone admitting to coming from Perthshire? Mutant. You don't like Perthshire. A pish stained frothing at the mouth jaikball like yourself would be even more noticeable here than up there., Im not surprised. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, perthshirered said: Seriously though, what kind of Mongol would even mention about Ronaldo being able to do a job in defence if needs be, what relevance is that? In that case can I put forward Matt Elliot as potentially one of the greatest players ever, perhaps Callum Patterson or Dion Dublin too. Messi is easily the best ever because his maw makes a fine plate of mince and tatties. The minute I think your opinion is of any relevance is the minute I take a loup off the Forth bridge. You keep judging mince and tatties. Everyone has to have one talent in life.... Link to comment
alscotoz Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Ten Caat said: Don't agree. Both Maradona and now Messi are both horrendously one footed. Undoubtedly still way beyond the level of other mere mortals but I just cannot put them above Ronaldo or even Pele. Ronaldo can play anywhere along the front line or in midfield. If push came to shove, he also has the physicality that in a dire emergency, he could even fill in as a central defender. Ive also never understood why opposing managers never chose to man mark Maradona or Messi using a smallish but quick player who has a similar low centre of gravity to them. Normally I'd agree with you about being two footed. Drummed into me from an early age and I did same with my kids. But when my son turned around and said Messi only uses his left, what do you say? Messi and maradona, their left foot and body movement is/was SO good, their other foot was almost irrelevant. They were extremely rare exceptions to the rule because they were so good. Maradona and Messi easily the best I've seen but maradona carried teams, he inspired teams, he won trophies for teams they shouldn't have even got close to. Maradona was a freak. So if those 2 were taken out of the equation, your opinion about two footedness stands and definitely gives players an advantage. Respect your opinion, of course, BUT in this case... Link to comment
alscotoz Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 11 hours ago, rocket_scientist said: Bumper got Diego's shirt after the Scotland Argentina game, didn't you? @alscotoz Yeah. Still using it to wipe down the windscreen. Seen better days Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 That Argentina side of 86 was an ordinary side, made world beaters by one player, he single handedly carried them to the trophy, Pele was in a Brazil side with many good players. Link to comment
alscotoz Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/nov/26/maradona-the-footballer-had-no-flaws-maradona-the-man-was-a-victim A good read Link to comment
YorkDon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 4 hours ago, ericblack4boss said: That Argentina side of 86 was an ordinary side, made world beaters by one player, he single handedly carried them to the trophy, Pele was in a Brazil side with many good players. And why there is no comparison between him and Messi. Lionel has had 4 world cups to try and take Argentina to glory.He's undoubtedly world class, and up there in terms of best ever, but at Barca he's had Spain's golden generation to help him-Iniesta, Xavi etc. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Thread title is horrendous. Needs changing. Link to comment
Simply Red Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, The Boofon said: Thread title is horrendous. Needs changing. 100% 1 Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, YorkDon said: And why there is no comparison between him and Messi. Lionel has had 4 world cups to try and take Argentina to glory.He's undoubtedly world class, and up there in terms of best ever, but at Barca he's had Spain's golden generation to help him-Iniesta, Xavi etc. And in an era where players get more protection Link to comment
Henry Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 2:14 PM, rocket_scientist said: I saw Henry in the flesh. Should've introduced yourself. 3 Link to comment
Ke1t Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 hours ago, The Boofon said: Thread title is horrendous. Needs changing. Already asked it be changed, but Admin ignoring the request. I'm starting to like it, though. Getting into the groove, if you will. Link to comment
G31DON Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 You have to factor in Maradona's cocaine consumption, partying until 3am, and being in the pocket of the Camorra mafia, when considering GOAT. Messi and Ronaldo should both get fucked up before their next match, in tribute, and see how they get on, with free passes to defenders to kick the shit out of them. Not surprised his life turned to shit, his life looked hellish in the Diego film, when he wasn't playing football. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Those photos are a bit wild. Start of a new craze? Link to comment
YorkDon Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 21 hours ago, ericblack4boss said: And in an era where players get more protection When you watch clips of fitba from the 80’s and before, they seem to genuinely be attempting to injure each other-mental. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 10 hours ago, G31DON said: You have to factor in Maradona's cocaine consumption, partying until 3am, and being in the pocket of the Camorra mafia, when considering GOAT. Messi and Ronaldo should both get fucked up before their next match, in tribute, and see how they get on, with free passes to defenders to kick the shit out of them. Not surprised his life turned to shit, his life looked hellish in the Diego film, when he wasn't playing football. His off field habits for me is a huge tarnish to his reputation and why he was never considered as an Ambassador for football. An absolutely immense player but I’d pick Pele ahead of Maradona for those reasons Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: His off field habits for me is a huge tarnish to his reputation and why he was never considered as an Ambassador for football. An absolutely immense player but I’d pick Pele ahead of Maradona for those reasons Off field stuff should have zero to do with his reputation on it. 3 Link to comment
Zander1903 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Off field stuff should have zero to do with his reputation on it. This^^ everyone has their Demons Link to comment
1903Fitba Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, afc1903mad said: His off field habits for me is a huge tarnish to his reputation and why he was never considered as an Ambassador for football. An absolutely immense player but I’d pick Pele ahead of Maradona for those reasons You sound like a right bender. 1 1 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Off field stuff should have zero to do with his reputation on it. Hey, everyone has an opinion and mines is swayed by being involved in grassroots football. You’re fine to have your own thought process. ‘We have pointed to Maradona occasionally I.e. the rainbow kewpie up pie skill challenge, but to be considered for the GOAT accolade, the whole package I has to be considered. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, 1903Fitba said: You sound like a right bender. Quite ironic really and an oxymoron given you have brought up such thoughts in a homophobic way and have “suck a dick” as your position. ? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Hey, everyone has an opinion and mines is swayed by being involved in grassroots football. You’re fine to have your own thought process. ‘We have pointed to Maradona occasionally I.e. the rainbow kewpie up pie skill challenge, but to be considered for the GOAT accolade, the whole package I has to be considered. The GOAT debate should only revolve around achievements ON the pitch & the ability of the player & how they influenced the teams they played with. We all know about the drugs, the alcohol, the infidelities, associations with Neapolitan Mafia etc etc... why does that make him a lesser footballer than Pele as you said? Link to comment
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