Hoofball Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, ThomohawkKid said: Supposedly “he really doesn’t get on with Glass” which Tbf isn’t a surprise from how things have gone so far. Could that be because he’s been fucking atrocious and Glass hasn’t held back in telling him that information Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: McGrath would definitely replace Ferguson. Unless folk want us to continue playing 3 or 4 midfielders with almost identical attributes in the team. McGrath is more a Kenny McLean type player for me. Unless you think that Ferguson and McLean are the same type of player then he won't replace Ferguson's role in the team. He might actually replace Ferguson in the team but as the don't do the same role then it would be a shift in style. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: McGrath is more a Kenny McLean type player for me. Unless you think that Ferguson and McLean are the same type of player then he won't replace Ferguson's role in the team. He might actually replace Ferguson in the team but as the don't do the same role then it would be a shift in style. Aye a slight shift in style in the midfield is what I mean. When we had Shinnie, Jack and McLean they were all different types. We've got a club full of 'Ferguson type' midfielders already. No need to keep replacing like for like when we have an overabundance already. 1 Link to comment
Ramandu Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said: St Mirren fans are deluded if they think McGrath is better than Ferguson. Although to be honest its like comparing apples and pears. Apples are better than pears. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye a slight shift in style in the midfield is what I mean. When we had Shinnie, Jack and McLean they were all different types. We've got a club full of 'Ferguson type' midfielders already. No need to keep replacing like for like when we have an overabundance already. We do have a lot of Ferguson type players but none with his quality. I'd like to see the majority of them moved on. The only one i'd keep is McGeouch if we could keep him fit. The most pressing thing this window is to add much more creativity and another striker. McGrath is a start but he's not the whole answer to our creative issues. If we are going to stick with 3 at the back and 2 up front we need a proper recognised no10. Which costs money but if we sell Ferguson for say £4-5m we should be able to sign someone without too much difficulty and bank a good amount of cash. Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, minijc said: Taylor had already indicated he was off and we knew Gallagher was available, almost certain it was with McInnes's blessing as we tried to get him in Jan. The overall decision from Gallagher was made when McInnes was still our manager and Gallagher was wanting it kept quiet in case Motherwell dropped him as he wanted to have every chance of making the Scotland squad. And all the time a diddy wee fan on a forum was privy to such information. Wow well played Sir - top man holding a secret all that time. Link to comment
minijc Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said: And all the time a diddy wee fan on a forum was privy to such information. Wow well played Sir - top man holding a secret all that time. Not privvy exactly, got most of it afterwards. Link to comment
bonzodaddy73 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 58 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said: More than just him I've heard. However as previously stated I'm not one of the lucky trusted circle "ITK" group who post on here. Only 2nd hand gossip that I can deal in. So exactly like everyone else then Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, bonzodaddy73 said: So exactly like everyone else then Shhhhhh! Don't burst some people's bubbles they prefer "ITK" tags - bless them. 2 Link to comment
slippers Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said: Shhhhhh! Don't burst some people's bubbles they prefer "ITK" tags - bless them. There has been multiple transfers broken on here before announced. Looks at Ramirez for example. Everyone thought he was on wind up and then weeks later he's a dons player. You think he just had a guess with that? Link to comment
G31DON Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, AyrshireSheep said: We do have a lot of Ferguson type players but none with his quality. I'd like to see the majority of them moved on. The only one i'd keep is McGeouch if we could keep him fit. The most pressing thing this window is to add much more creativity and another striker. McGrath is a start but he's not the whole answer to our creative issues. If we are going to stick with 3 at the back and 2 up front we need a proper recognised no10. Which costs money but if we sell Ferguson for say £4-5m we should be able to sign someone without too much difficulty and bank a good amount of cash. I'll be amazed if we get more than £3 million for Ferguson. Link to comment
Alex_14 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, slippers said: There has been multiple transfers broken on here before announced. Looks at Ramirez for example. Everyone thought he was on wind up and then weeks later he's a dons player. You think he just had a guess with that? That was me that posted about Ramirez. I don't have any more news. I'm not some mega ITK, just knew the right person who was able to inform me about Ramirez. Same person has told me a couple other things but they're fairly well known - i.e. re McGrath, Hedges & Ferguson. 2 Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Agree , old firm players go for more as they think they must be at a higher standard and used to pressure. We get low balled and agents don’t help! £2.5 million for Ferguson and about £3 million for Ramsay is most likely offers. Link to comment
minijc Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, slippers said: There has been multiple transfers broken on here before announced. Looks at Ramirez for example. Everyone thought he was on wind up and then weeks later he's a dons player. You think he just had a guess with that? Yeah that wasn't me, I've had plenty of others but still the haters on here claim I talk shit, it's rather amusing. 18 minutes ago, Alex_14 said: That was me that posted about Ramirez. I don't have any more news. I'm not some mega ITK, just knew the right person who was able to inform me about Ramirez. Same person has told me a couple other things but they're fairly well known - i.e. re McGrath, Hedges & Ferguson. An excellent scoop. Link to comment
bonzodaddy73 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, slippers said: There has been multiple transfers broken on here before announced. Looks at Ramirez for example. Everyone thought he was on wind up and then weeks later he's a dons player. You think he just had a guess with that? I seen about 50 MLS players guessed at on here due to Cormacks US ties, 1 had to get 1 right at some point. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 The best one in recent times was the boy who had a job at the hotel the club used to put up the new signings. Nae sure what happened to him. 1 Link to comment
minijc Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, bonzodaddy73 said: I seen about 50 MLS players guessed at on here due to Cormacks US ties, 1 had to get 1 right at some point. lol Link to comment
bonzodaddy73 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I can tell you whoever we get will help help us achieve a distant 3rd at best and more mediocrity for the duration of his contract. Until someone willing to blow millions on players takes over the club that's where we stand. ITK ? Link to comment
minijc Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, bonzodaddy73 said: I can tell you whoever we get will help help us achieve a distant 3rd at best and more mediocrity for the duration of his contract. Until someone willing to blow millions on players takes over the club that's where we stand. ITK ? Wrong mindset, this is why getting the new 'prawcess' working will benefit the club for years. Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye a slight shift in style in the midfield is what I mean. When we had Shinnie, Jack and McLean they were all different types. We've got a club full of 'Ferguson type' midfielders already. No need to keep replacing like for like when we have an overabundance already. The midfield of Shinnie, Jack and McLean was well balanced. Brown and Ferguson are very similar, although Brown doesn't charge up and down as much these days. McGeouch is a bit different I think - better passer and probably better technically but less dynamic and less physical presence (and also continually injured). Campbell is a bit different too - more similar to McGeouch than Ferguson, but very one footed. Ojo is probably the most similar in that he has energy and gets around the park, but he's dire. None of them carry a goal threat. If McGeouch could be relied on to stay fit, I'd be happy enough with him alongside Brown, with a more creative player in front of them (like McGrath). I don't think we can rely on him though, so I'd like to see someone brought in as I can't bear the thought of Ojo starting every week. Link to comment
Dons79 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: The best one in recent times was the boy who had a job at the hotel the club used to put up the new signings. Nae sure what happened to him. He was brilliant, miss him ? Link to comment
ThomohawkKid Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Anybody mind the first game Deano started at Ibrox for us, played as the furthest forward of the 3 midfielders, kind of a CAM. Looked a star that day. I think he could been good at that but Mcinnes wanted him to play like every other midfielder CDM. Link to comment
bonzodaddy73 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, minijc said: Wrong mindset, this is why getting the new 'prawcess' working will benefit the club for years. On paper it looks completely plausible but if we as a club have the people in place to see it through remains to be seen. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Broken_Glass said: Ferguson is our most consistent performer and has been last season as well. Kenny McKean has always been technically superb - even in a poor St Mirren side he stood out comfortably prior to signing for us. The fact he's gone onto bigger and better things should also tell you his abilities. Wish McGrath every success if he does indeed want to come and pull on a red shirt. Hopefully finds a level of consistency akin to Ferguson or McLean before him. 6 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said: McLean wasn't appreciated by a lot until he left. We'll miss Ferguson despite his recent form not being as good as his first two years here. Just like we missed McKenna and Shinnie and our other better players who left the club. That's why we can't afford many mistakes when it comes to recruitment this time around with Ferguson, Ramsay and Hedges looking likely to be off. 3 of our 4 highest contributors when it comes to goals/assists. McLean was notoriously non existent in first half of every season for us except his final season. Amazing how short folks memories can be in these things. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Hoofball said: Could that be because he’s been fucking atrocious and Glass hasn’t held back in telling him that information So I guess Glass doesn’t get along with many of his players Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 How many fringe players can we punt to Kilmarnock now that McInnes was there? Reckon we might see him take McGinn there as he's done in the premiership but could do a job still in Championship. I'd be trying to give him McLennan aswell. Campbell maybe head there on loan to try and free up more wages for us to strengthen. Link to comment
Hoofball Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, fine-n-dandy said: So I guess Glass doesn’t get along with many of his players Off the top of my head four maybe five at a push he gets along with 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Hoofball said: Off the top of my head four maybe five at a push he gets along with Maybe from whole team but from just his signings? Link to comment
Hoofball Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Maybe from whole team but from just his signings? Two and the third was the maybe Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, Hoofball said: Off the top of my head four maybe five at a push he gets along with Does it matter if the manager "gets along" with his players? As long as there is respect there, isn't that all that's required? On the contrary, Calderwood and McInnes were at times too chummy with their squads 1 Link to comment
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