redstrummer Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, slippers said: Idea world yes. Value for money they aren’t doing it. Probably the 2 highest paid CB’s in league outside Rangers and Celtic. If not very close. An absolute disgusting thought. I’d make them available and if we can get someone to cover even half their wages ship them out. I’d be more inclined to keep Gallagher if any of them but definitely need a captain type CB at very least to play alongside 1 of them. Absolute no way we can line up with them both next season and expect any better than this season. That means we need to sign 3 or 4 top quality CH's in one window. Not happening, they are fine as back if we go out and sign 2 better ones Link to comment
TheRedPrawcess Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, slippers said: We need a lot of players to be honest. In a ideal world how many of our current squad not including Ramsay or Ferguson would you like to see in our starting 11 next season. I’ll go first This topic has it's own thread already and has been done to death to be fair Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, redstrummer said: That means we need to sign 3 or 4 top quality CH's in one window. Not happening, they are fine as back if we go out and sign 2 better ones Could see Bates being reinvented as a full back since we paid a fee for him and he's on a long contract? 1 Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Tord31 said: Could see Bates being reinvented as a full back since we paid a fee for him and he's on a long contract? Better just sending him out on loan. He’s bad rubbish. Link to comment
slippers Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Could see Bates being reinvented as a full back since we paid a fee for him and he's on a long contract? I wouldn’t be against us going with a back 3 with a new commanding CB in between them. As has been said maybe a quality GK will make a substantial difference to our CB’s. Link to comment
Broken_Glass Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, slippers said: I wouldn’t be against us going with a back 3 with a new commanding CB in between them. As has been said maybe a quality GK will make a substantial difference to our CB’s. I suspect we may just go to a back 3. Said that for months now. Link to comment
slippers Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Broken_Glass said: I suspect we may just go to a back 3. Said that for months now. Probably fits better with personnel. No idea what either would be on but can’t have £10,000+ a week sitting on bench the whole season. Got to try and get some value out of them. Link to comment
redstrummer Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, slippers said: Probably fits better with personnel. No idea what either would be on but can’t have £10,000+ a week sitting on bench the whole season. Got to try and get some value out of them. So what about the invenitable suspensions and injuries we are going to have through out the season ? Think it through eh !! I'm fine with Bates and Gallagher , they are under contract , as long as we bring in 2 better . The squad needs 4 CH's to go through a season , we do have McCrorie however who can fill in at CH and RFB Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, redstrummer said: So what about the invenitable suspensions and injuries we are going to have through out the season ? Think it through eh !! I'm fine with Bates and Gallagher , they are under contract , as long as we bring in 2 better . The squad needs 4 CH's to go through a season , we do have McCrorie however who can fill in at CH and RFB Centre Back's. I'd go for signing one clear first pick CB and one developing CB (eg cheaper or loan) and see what happens with the four plus McCrorie. It's a bit early to write them both of when we know our full backs have been inexperienced and our keepers have had a mare for two years Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Tord31 said: Could see Bates being reinvented as a full back since we paid a fee for him and he's on a long contract? Why? He’d be like a fish up a tree. Even more of a galoot than he is at centre half. 3 Link to comment
DD1903 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Tord31 said: Could see Bates being reinvented as a full back since we paid a fee for him and he's on a long contract? ?? he doesn't have the pace, passing ability or composure to play full back Link to comment
Bournemouth Gee Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: galoot Word of the day 1 Link to comment
slippers Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, redstrummer said: So what about the invenitable suspensions and injuries we are going to have through out the season ? Think it through eh !! I'm fine with Bates and Gallagher , they are under contract , as long as we bring in 2 better . The squad needs 4 CH's to go through a season , we do have McCrorie however who can fill in at CH and RFB Where did I say I’d only be going with 2 CB’s next campaign. We already know we are targeting 6 player plus what is sold. Just listened to Goodwin interview and he says that we need to bring in 3/4 in the vinnie mould so we aren’t so reliant on him. That and a CB and GK and we will be in far better shape. He said he really enjoys the recruitment side of the game. I’m looking forward to seeing who we bring in. 1 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Why? He’d be like a fish up a tree. Even more of a galoot than he is at centre half. 6 minutes ago, DD1903 said: ?? he doesn't have the pace, passing ability or composure to play full back Whats our current plans for LB, CB and RB. We'll need to decide what the priorities are. First pick and back up for each position. I'm not saying we'll set out to play him at RB but it could happen due to us not signing full backs and him not getting a game otherwise Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Whats our current plans for LB, CB and RB. We'll need to decide what the priorities are. First pick and back up for each position. I'm not saying we'll set out to play him at RB but it could happen due to us not signing full backs and him not getting a game otherwise I’ve no idea what our plans are, but they won’t include Bates being used at RB. Link to comment
slippers Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Whats our current plans for LB, CB and RB. We'll need to decide what the priorities are. First pick and back up for each position. I'm not saying we'll set out to play him at RB but it could happen due to us not signing full backs and him not getting a game otherwise Think we may go with Kieren Ngwenya and McKenzie at LB. RB we need atleast 1 and could have McCrorie as back up, Centre back beed atleast 1 too. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Whats our current plans for LB, CB and RB. We'll need to decide what the priorities are. First pick and back up for each position. I'm not saying we'll set out to play him at RB but it could happen due to us not signing full backs and him not getting a game otherwise I won't lie...Not entirely sure, tord. Sorry. we also need CMs, wingers and strikers! Should we consider bates for one of them? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Goodwin is certainly correct about which area definitely need improvements, so that bodes well. ALL OF THEM not sure how he thinks he can achieve this by signing just 6 players though Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, DD1903 said: I won't lie...Not entirely sure, tord. Sorry. we also need CMs, wingers and strikers! Should we consider bates for one of them? Ojo played 40 times this season with 20+ of them being as a full back. We've been left with our full back options as Mackenzie, Hayes and McCrorie and even though hardly any of them are full backs the full back positions are just about our lowest priority. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Ojo played 40 times this season with 20+ of them being as a full back. We've been left with our full back options as Mackenzie, Hayes and McCrorie and even though hardly any of them are full backs the full back positions are just about our lowest priority. Right. So why does this mean Bates might play there? He never once did this year. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bournemouth Gee said: Word of the day Belter. And describes Bates to a tee. Link to comment
Zeus Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Bates at full back?!?! Come on now ? Neco Williams? Having a great season at Fulham by all accounts. Link to comment
ThomohawkKid Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Bates is a mystery man. I canny decide is he just shit, poor concentration or just canny be arsed. 1 minute he’s making a great challenge, or interception or picking a decent pass then next minute he’s letting some dross waltz past him. There’s defo some ability but it’s not consistently shown. Link to comment
Peachandblack Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 McCrorie's passing was nearly at an all time low today. He brings heart and a bit of pace and strength but if he's being seen as someone we will build around we're in real trouble next season. 1 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Peachandblack said: McCrorie's passing was nearly at an all time low today. He brings heart and a bit of pace and strength but if he's being seen as someone we will build around we're in real trouble next season. I'd be signing a minimum of two first pick centre mids. Any idea that McCrorie, Barron and Polvara are going to play 20-40 games is going to end in failure 2 Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Ojo played 40 times this season. Now the league table makes sense. 1 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Peachandblack said: McCrorie's passing was nearly at an all time low today. He brings heart and a bit of pace and strength but if he's being seen as someone we will build around we're in real trouble next season. He’s not good enough for centre midfield unless he’s told to just sit in front of the defence, break up play & keep it simple. 2 Link to comment
ThomohawkKid Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: He’s not good enough for centre midfield unless he’s told to just sit in front of the defence, break up play & keep it simple. If that’s his role, it will lead to a lot of red cards. Link to comment
starryfish Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: He’s not good enough for centre midfield unless he’s told to just sit in front of the defence, break up play & keep it simple. I’d argue he’s not good enough for any position if we have aspirations of being higher up the league and getting to latter stages of cup competitions Link to comment
minijc Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, starryfish said: I’d argue he’s not good enough for any position if we have aspirations of being higher up the league and getting to latter stages of cup competitions I think that's very harsh, he looked a good level above in his first few games for the club, hopefully Goodwin can find the right role for him and get him playing at that level again. 1 Link to comment
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