AllyDon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Or…. He had a big bust up with Cormack on Thursday of last week & said “fuck this, I’m off after Saturday”… What a shambles we are. And also, it’s seems clear the DoF is going nowhere… we’re actually going to ADD to the management line and appoint a Technical Director above him. Do we need; Chairman > CEO > Technical Director > DoF > Manager? We are an average team in a shite league FFS, we’re not Bayern Munich. What a shambles we are. A Technical Director to hold Gunn's hand. Farce. Link to comment
TheRedPrawcess Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I might be wrong but I don't read "new Technical Director to support the Director of Football" as that individual necessarily reporting to Gunn. Could it just be the case that the Technical Director will be more in tune with the football requirements, and takes that side of Gunn's workload? Specific training and development requirements? Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, The Hulk said: That's the worry isn't it? If Burrows does his job right, there's no need for us to ever hear from Cormack. Since Burrows has been appointed though, it doesn't appear to have been the case, so we've got to hope that he adheres to the message from the report. I've done bits of the Sporting Directorship pathway with the SFA so I'm aware of bits & pieces of how the structure is meant to be. There is no danger of a TD having to report to Gunn (unless he becomes CEO) if this process is done properly. Again, if Cormack's ego allows himself to follow it through... Of course Burrows came from one of the top teams in Scottish Football. Mothercare. 1 Link to comment
Frank Grimes Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, TheRedPrawcess said: I might be wrong but I don't read "new Technical Director to support the Director of Football" as that individual necessarily reporting to Gunn. Could it just be the case that the Technical Director will be more in tune with the football requirements, and takes that side of Gunn's workload? Specific training and development requirements? That's what I took from it Doesn't specifically say the TD would report to Gunn Link to comment
Tommy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 40 minutes ago, Zeus said: The review will come good Winning the lot next season I think the club is missing a trick if they don’t offer you a position on the board. 2 1 Link to comment
slippers Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: That's what I took from it Doesn't specifically say the TD would report to Gunn It confirms in the evening express extract. It explains the position. Link to comment
Sheeptastic Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 A club of our size probably should not have three middle men in the form of a chief exec, director of football and a technical director but if it's needed to sort out the mess we're in then I'm fine with it. When I first read it I pictured a structure with the chairman at the top and the other three as equals essentially reporting into Cormack, with the responsibilities divided up a bit more so that Gunn reverts to being more administrative once more and the technical director works on the actual football stuff, with the HofR reporting in to him. It's convoluted and really feels like Gunn should not be involved but most of us want a football man in there and if this is what will do that then I can just about get on board with it, so long as it's the right candidate. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 41 minutes ago, slippers said: You ran a football club the size of Aberdeen before? The Donald’s Did. Link to comment
Red Clive 1995 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 42 minutes ago, slippers said: You ran a football club the size of Aberdeen before? I won the lot on football manager in the hot seat at pittodrie. I didn’t need Director of football. 1 1 Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 29 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Straight from the FMB - Warnock took them totally by surprise on Saturday. The plan was he’d stick around till the new msn was in place but after he shook them with that press conference, they had to issue they’re own :statement: That simply doesnt make sense for either the FMB or Warnock given we have a game on Wednesday. Link to comment
eeps Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, The Gee Man said: Our aim is to appoint a First Team Manager during the upcoming international break. In the meantime, Peter Leven will continue in interim charge, assisted by Scott Anderson and Craig Samson.” its alright lads Samson's staying 🙏 1 Link to comment
DelMonte Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 53 minutes ago, brownie said: So, if Gunn is still DoF after the summer then you could argue that he's being given more power with a new Technical Director being appointed underneath him. Laughable. Can't have anyone losing face though. This is why we struggle to be a serious club. No, you couldn’t argue that. Link to comment
RUL Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 51 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Straight from the FMB - Warnock took them totally by surprise on Saturday. The plan was he’d stick around till the new msn was in place but after he shook them with that press conference, they had to issue they’re own :statement: Not true. Shinnie has said he knew before Saturday Link to comment
G man Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, eeps said: its alright lads Samson's staying 🙏 It gets worse by the day. Warnock would appear to have caught the club off guard by leaving when he did. Have they really been doing nothing behind the scenes looking at possible replacement managers before or after Robson was sacked? What are the likes of Gunn and Burrows being paid for? Link to comment
brownie Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 18 minutes ago, DelMonte said: No, you couldn’t argue that. It's the internet. I'll argue that night is day. 1 Link to comment
Frank Grimes Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 40 minutes ago, slippers said: It confirms in the evening express extract. It explains the position. That doesn’t make sense Gunn doesn’t have the expertise to be Technical Director so why would they be reporting into him? I’ve not read the EE article but as usual we’re just getting dribs and drabs from the club Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 53 minutes ago, slippers said: It confirms in the evening express extract. It explains the position. Yip. the article clearly says “we understand that current DoF Steven Gunn will remain in place & the Technical Director will report to him” From looking on from the outside, it seems overkill…. But…. If we pay this consultancy firm a 6 figure amount, we should take on board what they say. Derek Rae was “bigging up” the chap Peters who heads it up, saying he has a very good reputation in Germany. Link to comment
GeorgeStreetReds Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: That doesn’t make sense Gunn doesn’t have the expertise to be Technical Director so why would they be reporting into him? I’ve not read the EE article but as usual we’re just getting dribs and drabs from the club You don't necessarily need that specific expertise for someone to report to you. Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Left to right: AFC Chairman, AFC DoF and AFC Technical Director. 7 Link to comment
Hoofball Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 23 minutes ago, G man said: It gets worse by the day. Warnock would appear to have caught the club off guard by leaving when he did. Have they really been doing nothing behind the scenes looking at possible replacement managers before or after Robson was sacked? What are the likes of Gunn and Burrows being paid for? The review smokescreen hasn’t worked and now Warnock has fucked off he’s left them up shit creak without a paddle. Any fans that still had confidence in the board must now be seeing them for what they really are, a bunch of fucking useless incompetent idiots that aren’t fit to run the club 2 Link to comment
sigh Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Knee jerk reaction appointment coming up - Neil Lennon is available, lets get him in, he can take the flak and then likely to leave before getting fired so will look better on dave's record 1 Link to comment
Tommy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 33 minutes ago, RUL said: Not true. Shinnie has said he knew before Saturday Aye, Shinnie never told the FMB. 2 Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Roberto D’Aversa ex Lecce manager incoming, does a great head butt. Just been sacked for head butting a Verona player. Just what we need for flooring most of the Scottish referees and VAR operators. Oh and a Chairman who knows it all. Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, caledonia said: Going by club statement they wont even be interviewing till the international break its almost if they were waiting on an international manager to leave after the euros. which brings us back to O’Neil/Clarke or Garath Southgate 😆 You have to wonder something’s happened with Cormack/Warnock whether its Warnock been offered another job or Cormack letting him go otherwise why not wait the two games we have till said international break. Has Cormack any teeth missing. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 39 minutes ago, G man said: It gets worse by the day. Warnock would appear to have caught the club off guard by leaving when he did. Have they really been doing nothing behind the scenes looking at possible replacement managers before or after Robson was sacked? What are the likes of Gunn and Burrows being paid for? No, they were waiting for the review to be complete. It is now complete and candidates interviewed this week. Link to comment
slippers Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 32 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: That doesn’t make sense Gunn doesn’t have the expertise to be Technical Director so why would they be reporting into him? I’ve not read the EE article but as usual we’re just getting dribs and drabs from the club Gunn is the director of football and the technical director reports to him. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 14 minutes ago, Hoofball said: The review smokescreen hasn’t worked and now Warnock has fucked off he’s left them up shit creak without a paddle. Any fans that still had confidence in the board must now be seeing them for what they really are, a bunch of fucking useless incompetent idiots that aren’t fit to run the club Not sure how this has changed anything. I hate Cormack as much as anyone but surely the fact the review is being done by a highly regarded person is a good thing? Link to comment
brownie Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 17 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Yip. the article clearly says “we understand that current DoF Steven Gunn will remain in place & the Technical Director will report to him” It's a fair plot twist. Gunn coming out of this with someone new reporting into him. Link to comment
minijc Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, DelMonte said: Not sure how this has changed anything. I hate Cormack as much as anyone but surely the fact the review is being done by a highly regarded person is a good thing? I'd say it is, I just have little fucking faith in him fully investing in what they've suggested, even in the statement there's some pish. Link to comment
Kiriakov33 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, DelMonte said: Not sure how this has changed anything. I hate Cormack as much as anyone but surely the fact the review is being done by a highly regarded person is a good thing? Totally agree. Cormack should rightly receive criticism for guiding us into this position in the first place but at least there is an acknowledgment that things need to change. If the rumours are true that this review is costing 300k then they will surely listen and act upon any recommendations they make. This company does seem to be very highly regarded. The Warnock situ is a strange one but chances are it was a mutual agreement for him to go now. I suppose the hope was that he would come in , go on a bit of a run and maybe get top 6 / Europe. That’s gone to rat shit so he goes now, we save a bit of cash and Leven gets the next 2 games. Link to comment
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