Orange Lodge - Stonehaven

[Dons79]

On 2/28/2024 at 8:43 AM, manboobs109 said:

Will the lodge have a bar?

Hope not, the last orange walk up there, was all the folk against it locked in a pub by the police and their was nothing anybody could do to stop it?😂

[cheesepipes]

14 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said:

The Western European equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan, coming to the NE of Scotland. I've seen it all now... 🤔🙄

Probably get more bang for your buck these days if they did get a NE KKK up n running.

[RDS]

13 minutes ago, dave_min said:

Not the first time they have tried, but once again the good honest folk of NE Scotland will not stand for this nonsense and they shall fuck right back off again.

There are a few Orange Order Lodges lurking in the North East but marches not a success so far

[brownie]

On 2/26/2024 at 6:35 PM, For Fecks Sake said:

Must be a wind up..... Organised by a "William Henry" and "LOL" in the banner?

 

The lunatic has apparently put his mobile number here

https://www.totaljobs.com/job/facilities-assistant/aberdeenshire-council-job101231500#

 

 

[Hoofball]

4 minutes ago, brownie said:

The lunatic has apparently put his mobile number here

https://www.totaljobs.com/job/facilities-assistant/aberdeenshire-council-job101231500#

 

 

So you’re saying the march is being organised by a cunt that works for Aberdeen city council. Surely that’s a joke and isn’t true

[Oregon Red]

Scotland sucks so fucking much. Pitiful country

[cheesepipes]

Portland's full of benders.

[brownie]

34 minutes ago, Hoofball said:

So you’re saying the march is being organised by a cunt that works for Aberdeen city council. Surely that’s a joke and isn’t true

He's not a local. From Motherwell

[donswin1983]

12 hours ago, brownie said:

He's not a local. From Motherwell

Still a sad indictment of this sectarian ridden country..

‘Best small country in the world’….

[alscotoz]

What's the difference between orange order and masonic lodges?

[alscotoz]

Which one?

[alscotoz]

3 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

read it back

Ti?

None the wiser 

[Simply Red]

1 hour ago, Sooper-hanz said:

You can be a catholic and be a mason for one. 

This is true globally with the exception of the majority of lodges in Central/West Scotland and Norn Irn. 
 

[Hoofball]

2 hours ago, alscotoz said:

What's the difference between orange order and masonic lodges?

One set of cunts are all secretive with gay handshake whilst the other are huns that like everyone to know their a fucking retarded mink by walking through the streets wearing gay orange attire. 
 

That’s my take on it anyway. 

[Simply Red]

The marchers and the bus loads of huns who come up will be up for a tear up.

Anyone throwing abuse (let alone objects) at the march will be seen as fair game for the marchers and their pals, who’ve travelled up to ‘support’ them.

Hopefully a good turn out from all concerned, and a swift end to any more attempts at importing ridiculous bigot shit from the west coast. 

[Don Fonte]

40 minutes ago, Simply Red said:

The marchers and the bus loads of huns who come up will be up for a tear up.

Anyone throwing abuse (let alone objects) at the march will be seen as fair game for the marchers and their pals, who’ve travelled up to ‘support’ them.

Hopefully a good turn out from all concerned, and a swift end to any more attempts at importing ridiculous bigot shit from the west coast. 

Real NE men wouldn't stand by idly and let this happen without incident.

I'm not sure the men of Stonehaven can be classed as such though.  They've always been a worrying lot.

[brownie]

46 minutes ago, Simply Red said:

The marchers and the bus loads of huns who come up will be up for a tear up.

Anyone throwing abuse (let alone objects) at the march will be seen as fair game for the marchers and their pals, who’ve travelled up to ‘support’ them.

Hopefully a good turn out from all concerned, and a swift end to any more attempts at importing ridiculous bigot shit from the west coast. 

Free day for a lot of Dandies anyway as we're at Motherwell.

If this goes ahead I hope there is a good bit of aggro.

[elephantstone78]

4 minutes ago, Don Fonte said:

Real NE men wouldn't stand by idly and let this happen without incident.

I'm not sure the men of Stonehaven can be classed as such though.  They've always been a worrying lot.

RS out swinging a 3 iron at them. 

[Don Fonte]

7 minutes ago, brownie said:

Free day for a lot of Dandies anyway as we're at Motherwell.

If this goes ahead I hope there is a good bit of aggro.

You gonna get involved in the aggro min?

[brownie]

Just now, Don Fonte said:

You gonna get involved in the aggro min?

Certainly not officer.

[Don Fonte]

Just now, brownie said:

Certainly not officer.

Bender.

[Reed or deed]

4 hours ago, elephantstone78 said:

RS out swinging a 3 iron at them. 

Driver

[For Fecks Sake]

5 hours ago, Simply Red said:

The marchers and the bus loads of huns who come up will be up for a tear up.

Anyone throwing abuse (let alone objects) at the march will be seen as fair game for the marchers and their pals, who’ve travelled up to ‘support’ them.

Hopefully a good turn out from all concerned, and a swift end to any more attempts at importing ridiculous bigot shit from the west coast. 

The last bus load that came up weren't up for it and fucked off pretty sharpish like.

[RAZOR]

4 hours ago, elephantstone78 said:

RS out swinging a 3 iron at them. 

Hope he does. Do us proud RS 👍

[Poodler]

@Betty Swallicks you back from the reef, all warmed up and ready for battle? 

[Roberto]

I hope there's a squad doing battle...

[Simply Red]

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen-aberdeenshire/6392696/stonehaven-council-debate-orange-walk/

[brownie]

8 hours ago, Simply Red said:

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen-aberdeenshire/6392696/stonehaven-council-debate-orange-walk/

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Stonehaven local's 'vigorous fight' against proposed Orange Walk

 

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Stonehaven’s community council says it will put up a “vigorous” fight on behalf of residents to ensure a proposed Orange Walk does not go ahead.

Councillors are set to debate the procession during Aberdeenshire Council’s latest Kincardine and Mearns area committee meeting tomorrow, deciding whether to allow the parade to proceed – with or without conditions – or to prohibit the event entirely.

More than 200 members of the Orange Order intend to take part in a flute march from Stonehaven Town hall to Dunnottar Church on March 16, to mark the opening of its new north-east lodge.

Laminated leaflets are circulating in Stonehaven.

Stonehaven community council applauds response

Following the backlash, it’s understood that Stonehaven District and Community Council has held emergency talks in response to the the proposals.

Members have been joined by local voices as they put together a case against Stonehaven hosting the Orange Walk.

It is believed that a number of people opposed to the plan have requested to speak at tomorrow’s committee meeting to call for the parade to be prohibited.

A community council spokesperson said: “Stonehaven & District Community Council congratulates the community on its response to the proposed Orange Walk in Stonehaven.

“The Community Council will put up a vigorous fight against this proposed Orange Walk on behalf of the community.”

The Waterfront Cafe has threatened to close over “trouble” caused by Orange walk.

Orange Order maintain that Stonehaven lodge is justified

Today, the Orange Order accused the petition of “stirring up anti-Orange and Protestant hatred”.

The group has insisted that “significant interest” from locals warranted the opening of the lodge, and that people from Aberdeen, Forfar, Peterhead, and Perth have been travelling to meet.

In a statement, organisers said that just like those who have the right to petition, they also have the right to celebrate what they believe in.

A spokesman for the order said: “As with most new lodges, a parade to celebrate the opening has been arranged and notification (not application) was provided to Aberdeenshire Council and Police Scotland.

“The parade will also remember those many covenanters in Stonehaven who were tortured and murdered for their reformed faith, and a wreath will be laid in remembrance of their sacrifice.

“On the petition, everyone has a right to object that is one of the human rights we support.

“We also have the right to celebrate our culture in the way we like under the European Convention on Human Rights.”

Dunnottar Castle is one of the main features of the new lodge’s logo.

Petition used to ‘stir up anti-Protestant hatred’

The Orange Order has also questioned the petition’s validity after claiming it was widely shared across “republican, nationalist and Celtic pages”.

“This encourages them to help with its numbers and use hate language against the Orange Institution and the Protestant faith,” they said.

“The petition has been shared to stir up anti-Orange and Protestant hatred, and should be called out as such.

“We respect individual views, but this is an orchestrated attack on our institution and the wider Protestant faith.”

A bar and a cafe in the town have said they will shut if the procession goes ahead.

 

[brownie]

These cunts are getting slowly eradicated in Northern Ireland. They're looking for new areas to replace those.

[brownie]

The Times have an article on the organiser. I hope the cunt is sacked. Council tax is paying for this clown.

 

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Sectarian march organiser posted anti-Muslim slurs online

Calls to halt the march in Stonehaven by members of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland redoubled after William Henry’s inflammatory posts came to light

 

Marc Horne

Tuesday March 05 2024, 12.00am GMT, The Times

William Henry called for halal meat to be banned and posted images of bacon alongside the message “Happy Porktober”

The man behind plans for a controversial sectarian march circulated anti-Muslim slurs, likened a Celtic manager to an ape and suggested that Nicola Sturgeon should be deported to Rwanda, it has emerged.

William Henry has applied to his employer, Aberdeenshire council, to bring busloads of fellow members of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland into the east coast town of Stonehaven for a procession on March 16.

Almost 10,000 people have signed a petition opposing the planned march, which would be led by the Pride of the Rock flute band from the west coast town of Dumbarton, 140 miles southwest of Stonehaven, claiming it would “poison our peaceful environment”.

 

It has emerged that Henry, an operations co-ordinator with the local authority, posted a succession of inflammatory messages online, prompting fresh calls for the march to be halted.

The lodge confirmed it had begun an investigation into comments he made on social media.

In one example Henry, originally from Lanarkshire but now resident in Brechin, Angus, shared a post on Facebook which asserted that British Muslim communities “refuse to integrate”.

“There are now dozens of no-go zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon,” he wrote. “Sharia law prevails there because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.”

Henry also circulated offensive images of the former Celtic manager and praised Oliver Cromwell

Henry posted a cartoon of a Trojan horse wearing an Arabic headdress outside the gates of Europe, suggesting that terrorists are posing as refugees, called for halal meat to be banned and posted images of bacon alongside the message “Happy Porktober”.

He circulated a number of images of Tony Mowbray, then the manager of Celtic Football Club, which depicted him as a macaque monkey, a chimpanzee and an orangutan.

Henry, a former serviceman, posted an image of the former SNP leader with the slogan “Deportation flight to Rwanda takes off at the eleventh hour”, suggested he would “rather have Putin than Sturgeon” and wrote: “Let’s have a hung parliament. Hung being the operative word.”

He paid tribute to Oliver Cromwell, who carried out atrocities and imposed a series of anti-Catholic laws after invading Ireland in the 17th century, writing: “Could do with this boy to sort out a few of them now.”

Critics said that Henry’s comments would encourage “division and anxiety”

Henry, who posted images of himself with an orange in his mouth and sitting in the civic leader’s chair at the headquarters of Aberdeenshire council, also recorded his visit to the Ulster Rangers Supporters Club on the Shankill Road in Belfast on July 11, 2019.

In the same year the supporters’ club used social media to pay tribute to a late member of the Ulster Volunteer Force, a proscribed terrorist organisation, and referred to a Celtic supporter as a “bead-rattling bastard”.

Henry recorded another visit to Northern Ireland by writing: “Seems strange walking through the city centre of Belfast without a flak jacket and a rifle.”

Maggie Chapman, the Green MSP for northeast Scotland, described Henry’s comments as “truly disgusting, divisive and hateful”.

“I urge councillors to reflect on the impact that awful comments like this from one of the organisers could have, as well as the long history of marches like this in fuelling division and anxiety,” she said. “They must reject it.”

Orange marches in the west of Scotland have been associated with antisocial behaviour

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Kevin Stewart, the SNP MSP for Aberdeen Central, said: “These kinds of horrific comments from the organiser show us exactly why it is that this Orange Order march should be banned.

“The northeast is known for its tolerance and the last thing we need here is an intolerant, sectarian event in Stonehaven.

“I hope that councillors will take account of the organiser’s social media posts and remarks and vote against this march for the good of the northeast.”

Orange marches in the west of Scotland and Northern Ireland have been associated with drunken disorder and sectarian bigotry.

Some businesses in the town said they would close for the day over fears of violence and antisocial behaviour if the procession is allowed to go ahead.

David Walters, the chief executive of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland, said it “respects all faiths, beliefs and backgrounds and expects from our members”.

“Individual members have the right to express their own views, which in a democratic society is a fundamental freedom we support, but if those views conflict with their qualifications as an Orangeman or Orangewoman or bring the institution into disrepute then this is a matter which will be dealt with internally by our governing body,” he said.

“If our investigation merits any disciplinary action, this will be carried out by the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland as the governing body of our institution.”

The lodge describes itself as a Protestant fraternity that supports religious freedom, civil liberties, the British monarchy and UK unity. Henry, who has since made his Facebook page private, was contacted for comment.

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