Stoney Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 League Cup Semi final 2008 Dundee United Starting X1LangfieldMcnamaraDiamondSeverinConsidineYoungNicholsonWalkerMackieMillerFoster Scots Cup Semi 08 Queen of the South Starting X1 SouterMayburyDiamondConsidineMcnamaraNicolsonSeverinFosterAlukoMaguireMiller Scots Cup QTR 09 Dunfermline Starting X1 LangfieldFosterMairDiamondMulgrewSmithSeverinKerrAlukoMaguireMackie Scottish Cup 5th Round 2010 Raith Rovers Starting X1 LangfieldFosterDiamondIfilPatersonMackieMcdonaldKerrAlukoMacleanPaton League Cup Semi 2011 Celtic Starting X1 LangfieldMcardleDiamondVujadinovicConsidineMcnameeYoungHartleyMilsomVernonMaguire Scots Cup Semi 11 Celtic Starting X1 LangieldYoungDiamondConsidineSmithMagennisJackMilsomAlukoMaguireVernon 6 Games, and of the current team Diamond played all 6Langfield played 5Considine played 4Young played 4Maguire played 4Aluko played 4 Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 ok so we know which players played in these games, is there a point Stoney? Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Nope not really, just pointing out what we already know but wont admit. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Nope not really, just pointing out what we already know but wont admit. elaborate and inform everyone then? Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'd get rid of anyone who was here pre McGhee, bar the youngsters. Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 elaborate and inform everyone then? I'd get rid of anyone who was here pre McGhee, bar the youngsters. This good man has answered the question for you. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 This good man has answered the question for you. I'm with you on that, its not exactly something that we won;t admit. Most of us say it all the time. Link to comment
Donmacca Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ok but another common denominator is Milne as chairman and Miller as DoF . I think the really problem is from top to bottom the club is stagnant. AFC need a radical shake up however i won't happen for a while yet. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ok but another common denominator is Milne as chairman and Miller as DoF . I think the really problem is from top to bottom the club is stagnant. AFC need a radical shake up however i won't happen for a while yet. My thoughts exactly.... until we get rid of Milne and Miller, this club will continue to go round and round in circles. Aberdeen FC is rotten to the core. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 My thoughts exactly.... until we get rid of Milne and Miller, this club will continue go round and round in circles. Aberdeen FC is rotten to the core. this club is going round and round in circles with the rest of the 10 teams in the league. we take turns in grabbing the odd headline each season and the circle goes on and on. no team out with the old firm is really consistent with "success" Link to comment
Donmacca Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 My thoughts exactly.... until we get rid of Milne and Miller, this club will continue to go round and round in circles. Aberdeen FC is rotten to the core. Don't know if they have to go but they do need to start working a lot harder for the club. Major investment is needed and it needs to come from somewhere be it Milne's pocket or getting out and about talking to people. Link to comment
RUL Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The biggest factor is Milne as chairman. The c**t hasn't got a fkn clue how to run a football club, regardless how successful his business is. His great idea now is for his legacy to be a massive elephant in the middle of no fkn where with a Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Was thinking this yesterday and I knew who the main culprits were straight away The triangle of death which is Langfield, Considine and Diamond. Its that simple. Get them all to f'ck. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Was thinking this yesterday and I knew who the main culprits were straight away The triangle of death which is Langfield, Considine and Diamond. Its that simple. Get them all to f'ck.Time and Time again the problems we've had have been because of the defence. Ok we arent scoring many goals at the moment, but if we didn't concede so many then you have far more chance of winning the game. 16 goals in 4 semi finals is embarassing by anyones standards. We've changed our midfield and our strikers time and time again, and i've noticed that we dominate a LOT of games and then get hit by a sucker punch and then we're f**ked. Sort out the defense (i.e. scrap those three and start again) and we'll see a MASSIVE improvement. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Massive simplification of matters... Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Massive simplification of matters...It's football....it's a fairly simple game! Blame Milne? we've still got a big enough budget to ensure we aren't sitting second bottom of the league and struggling to compete against ANYONE. Blame Brown? We started off well enough, then the honeymoon period ended, players got injured and certain layers went back own to their normal sub zero standards. Players? Yup. Ok we've had injuries, but we still should be good enough to do better than this. The players simply aren't good enough, thats not because of money as we should still be able to compete with everyone in the SPL outside of top 3! Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's football....it's a fairly simple game! Blame Milne? we've still got a big enough budget to ensure we aren't sitting second bottom of the league and struggling to compete against ANYONE. Blame Brown? We started off well enough, then the honeymoon period ended, players got injured and certain layers went back own to their normal sub zero standards. Players? Yup. Ok we've had injuries, but we still should be good enough to do better than this. The players simply aren't good enough, thats not because of money as we should still be able to compete with everyone in the SPL outside of top 3! Blaming common denominators amongst the players is massive simplification of matters. Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's football....it's a fairly simple game! Blame Milne? we've still got a big enough budget to ensure we aren't sitting second bottom of the league and struggling to compete against ANYONE.Blame Brown? We started off well enough, then the honeymoon period ended, players got injured and certain layers went back own to their normal sub zero standards. Players? Yup. Ok we've had injuries, but we still should be good enough to do better than this. The players simply aren't good enough, thats not because of money as we should still be able to compete with everyone in the SPL outside of top 3! I agree with this and used to defend him on this basis, however he oversees a football club where a culture of unprofessionalism and disrespect by players is tolerated (drinking during the season, going to actively support rival clubs) He also oversees a culture of not chasing up or pushing season ticket renewals, discouraging fan involvement by way of banners singing etc, and basically an attitude of ignoring fans complaints over the aforementioned issues and other issues such as a larger league and summer football. The message emanating from Milne's AFC is clear - " if you don't like it then f**k off" * Milne must be happy as this season the message finally seems to have gotten through to about 5 to 6,000 of our fans. * NOTE: unless of course your a sh*t mediocre player in which case the message is - "do whatever the f**k you want and we'll still be desperate to keep you at contract renewal time." Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Absolutely - its laughable that no one at AFC has realised the problem with the team isn't midfield or attack, its the bloody defence. The good work done by guys like Aluko, Vernon and Maguire is completely let down by the bufoons in our backline- privately they must shake their heads when they go home after games and I don't blame them. If we had a solid backline the team would play with much less fear and its clear opposition managers know its just a matter of time before one of the three stooges makes a mistake. Lemon said himself their first goal was "psychologically damaging" for Aberdeen and being a psychologically damaged person himself he's got that one spot on. I am fed up being let down by Diamond, Langfield and Considine - not by Aberdeen. C'nts. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I agree with this and used to defend him on this basis, however he oversees a football club where a culture of unprofessionalism and disrespect by players is tolerated (drinking during the season, going to actively support rival clubs) He also oversees a culture of not chasing up or pushing season ticket renewals, discouraging fan involvement by way of banners singing etc, and basically an attitude of ignoring fans complaints over the aforementioned issues and other issues such as a larger league and summer football. The message emanating from Milne's AFC is clear - " if you don't like it then f**k off" * Milne must be happy as this season the message finally seems to have gotten through to about 5 to 6,000 of our fans. * NOTE: unless of course your a sh*t mediocre player in which case the message is - "do whatever the f**k you want and we'll still be desperate to keep you at contract renewal time."I doubt Milne comes down and says "right you need to keep these players" to Brown, Calderwood or McGhee etc. Football Managers must watch a different game than the fans because when it comes to contracts, players like Mackie, Diamond, Kerr, Casper, Foster and Langfield keep / kept being offered new contracts despite them being horseshit. I don't think throwing cash at the problem is going to solve anything. Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I doubt Milne comes down and says "right you need to keep these players" to Brown, Calderwood or McGhee etc. Football Managers must watch a different game than the fans because when it comes to contracts, players like Mackie, Diamond, Kerr, Casper, Foster and Langfield keep / kept being offered new contracts despite them being horseshit. I don't think throwing cash at the problem is going to solve anything. Yeah I agree that cash is not the problem. But clearly the players have an attitude that falls below the standard of the most successful clubs. (I can't hold ability against them - but there is no excuse for lack of professionalism). They can't suddenly immerse themselves in professionalism and effort for 1 semi final and expect it all to come together. They need to be in that mindset 24-7 and that means no alcohol (a rule that most top sportsmen adhere to) and focusing on the team they play for rather than nipping along ot idolise their rivals. This is the job of the manager - but i would still expect Milne to be asking Craig Brown why Diamond and Bebo were spotted in the Celtic end after being humilated by them, or why certain players were spotted out pished in town. We can make excuses for these players all we want, but ever since Aitken started the ball rolling on signing players that don't give a f**k - surprise suprise we've won f**k all. The odd battling performance isn't going to get these players off the hook and will never lead to success in the long run. Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Yeah I agree that cash is not the problem. But clearly the players have an attitude that falls below the standard of the most successful clubs. (I can't hold ability against them - but there is no excuse for lack of professionalism). They can't suddenly immerse themselves in professionalism and effort for 1 semi final and expect it all to come together. They need to be in that mindset 24-7 and that means no alcohol (a rule that most top sportsmen adhere to) and focusing on the team they play for rather than nipping along ot idolise their rivals. This is the job of the manager - but i would still expect Milne to be asking Craig Brown why Diamond and Bebo were spotted in the Celtic end after being humilated by them, or why certain players were spotted out pished in town. We can make excuses for these players all we want, but ever since Aitken started the ball rolling on signing players that don't give a f**k - surprise suprise we've won f**k all. The odd battling performance isn't going to get these players off the hook and will never lead to success in the long run. Post of the season Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by Millertime . View it anyway? Because you are a clipe. Nobody likes a grass. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Yeah I agree that cash is not the problem. But clearly the players have an attitude that falls below the standard of the most successful clubs. (I can't hold ability against them - but there is no excuse for lack of professionalism). They can't suddenly immerse themselves in professionalism and effort for 1 semi final and expect it all to come together. They need to be in that mindset 24-7 and that means no alcohol (a rule that most top sportsmen adhere to) and focusing on the team they play for rather than nipping along ot idolise their rivals. This is the job of the manager - but i would still expect Milne to be asking Craig Brown why Diamond and Bebo were spotted in the Celtic end after being humilated by them, or why certain players were spotted out pished in town. We can make excuses for these players all we want, but ever since Aitken started the ball rolling on signing players that don't give a f**k - surprise suprise we've won f**k all. The odd battling performance isn't going to get these players off the hook and will never lead to success in the long run.We need to win something, and quickly. We've got a team of losers (in more than 1 sense) and there is a serious lack of confidence within the club. Probably the reason we've not brought through any great young players for long long time. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 you think a claim like that from someone like yourself holds any credence, whatsoever? This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by Millertime . View it anyway? Because you are a clipe. Nobody likes a grass.You two should really get a room.... Link to comment
Stoney Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Please dont ruin another thread with this pish - its getting beyond a joke. Link to comment
Jute Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Another common denominator is the fans. Some now have the club they deserve. Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Blame the 14k that were at last semi in January, great Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The swiftness with which Mr Brown identified and disposed of Jerel Ifil gives me great encouragement. He clearly knows a sh*te defender when he sees one, and has kept the "motivation act" up with messers Diamond, Considine and Vuja very well. However, I expect the axe to fall on these bufoons - do not believe everything Mr Brown says in a complimentary fashion.......its just designed to keep their peckers up coz they are all he's had to work with. We need to take pride in clean sheets again FFS Link to comment
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